Cricket .. England in South Africa & Sri Lanka 2019/2020

PaddyP17 · January 2020

Chizz said:

"Root is tactically unable to do the thing he's just done".

Bloody hell, thought it'd be bigger news that someone had surpassed Jim Laker's record of 19 wickets in a Test match!

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Just to clarify, I'm twisting your words particularly egregiously here, just like you do with so, SO many other posters. The way people like yourself and Pres act on the cricket threads has put me off contributing to any of them except the club one.

Like, it's obvious the point Canters is trying to make. Tactically one has to bowl to a plan for each batsman and ensure wickets are acquired through careful bowling rather than, say, Archer somehow getting a Michelle going at a run a ball (how is that tactically astute in the long term?).

But you insist on twisting people's words for pretty much no reason. Like when Canters mentioned Foakes and Pope, he clearly wasn't referring to the specific Test where both were unavailable, yet you consciously chose to act like a dick about it. It's not constructive and it is immediately polarising.

It is exactly what you do when it comes to politics, as well. And I actually agree with you politically quite a lot, as I'm sure you are aware, but your style of discourse is properly annoying. When you do choose to engage appropriately, though, you make good points consistently that are well worth addressing. It's a shame you don't see fit to act as little more than a WUM most of the time, though.

Chizz · January 2020

PaddyP17 said:

Chizz said:

"Root is tactically unable to do the thing he's just done".

Bloody hell, thought it'd be bigger news that someone had surpassed Jim Laker's record of 19 wickets in a Test match!

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Just to clarify, I'm twisting your words particularly egregiously here, just like you do with so, SO many other posters. The way people like yourself and Pres act on the cricket threads has put me off contributing to any of them except the club one.

Like, it's obvious the point Canters is trying to make. Tactically one has to bowl to a plan for each batsman and ensure wickets are acquired through careful bowling rather than, say, Archer somehow getting a Michelle going at a run a ball (how is that tactically astute in the long term?).

But you insist on twisting people's words for pretty much no reason. Like when Canters mentioned Foakes and Pope, he clearly wasn't referring to the specific Test where both were unavailable, yet you consciously chose to act like a dick about it. It's not constructive and it is immediately polarising.

It is exactly what you do when it comes to politics, as well. And I actually agree with you politically quite a lot, as I'm sure you are aware, but your style of discourse is properly annoying. When you do choose to engage appropriately, though, you make good points consistently that are well worth addressing. It's a shame you don't see fit to act as little more than a WUM most of the time, though.

I thought it was nothing more than a fairly funny joke, to be honest.

Addick Addict · January 2020

Wicket for Bess. A reward for keeping it tight but a very poor shot from Elgar

157-4

StigThundercock · January 2020

Captain Cretin phones in a performance with the bat, has a toddler tantrum blaming anything other than himself when he is dismissed yet again with a flaccid shot; flogs his quickest bowlers on brainless "plans" for hours beyond it's obvious to all they're not working and keeps fielders way out in the deep to Elgar in areas to which nobody ever sees him hit the ball, persists with the halfling Curran as he serves up buffet after buffet, throwing away the very decent position achieved in the first hour of the day. Jesus H Christ on a bike Joe Root is a total shit4brains! Sure as eggs is eggs he'll mutter some craven bullshit about his: plans, mumble mumble, ball goes soft, mumble mumble, flat pitch, grumble, Kookaburra ball, sniff. And another test series goes begging against moderate opposition.

KBslittlesis · January 2020

@suzisausage our nephew is there too with his Wishaw cricket team.

Chizz · January 2020

StigThundercock said:

Captain Cretin phones in a performance with the bat, has a toddler tantrum blaming anything other than himself when he is dismissed yet again with a flaccid shot; flogs his quickest bowlers on brainless "plans" for hours beyond it's obvious to all they're not working and keeps fielders way out in the deep to Elgar in areas to which nobody ever sees him hit the ball, persists with the halfling Curran as he serves up buffet after buffet, throwing away the very decent position achieved in the first hour of the day. Jesus H Christ on a bike Joe Root is a total shit4brains! Sure as eggs is eggs he'll mutter some craven bullshit about his: plans, mumble mumble, ball goes soft, mumble mumble, flat pitch, grumble, Kookaburra ball, sniff. And another test series goes begging against moderate opposition.

Be honest: how pleased were you to see Root catch Elgar in the deep and Curran dismiss de Kock?

Chizz · January 2020

Chizz said:

StigThundercock said:

Captain Cretin phones in a performance with the bat, has a toddler tantrum blaming anything other than himself when he is dismissed yet again with a flaccid shot; flogs his quickest bowlers on brainless "plans" for hours beyond it's obvious to all they're not working and keeps fielders way out in the deep to Elgar in areas to which nobody ever sees him hit the ball, persists with the halfling Curran as he serves up buffet after buffet, throwing away the very decent position achieved in the first hour of the day. Jesus H Christ on a bike Joe Root is a total shit4brains! Sure as eggs is eggs he'll mutter some craven bullshit about his: plans, mumble mumble, ball goes soft, mumble mumble, flat pitch, grumble, Kookaburra ball, sniff. And another test series goes begging against moderate opposition.

Be honest: how pleased were you to see Root catch Elgar in the deep and Curran dismiss de Kock?

and van der Dussen?

suzisausage · January 2020

KBslittlesis said:

@suzisausage our nephew is there too with his Wishaw cricket team.

Which one is your nephew, must be near us

KBslittlesis · January 2020

suzisausage said:

KBslittlesis said:

@suzisausage our nephew is there too with his Wishaw cricket team.

Which one is your nephew, must be near us

The only one in the England cricket top, orange wristband, England cricket hat xx

Covered End · January 2020

Covered End said:

Apparently, we got close to the average first day score there, so maybe it's not as bad as we think.

SA 215-8 cop.

Leuth · January 2020

Today putting those 'dismal performance' comments into context tbh. Neither team has a firing batting line-up. Batting first makes winning likely no matter how sketchy the first effort is (short of total disaster). Which is why Root's decision to bowl first in the previous game was the most terrible and obvious of his mistakes.

Johnnysummers5 · January 2020

Jimmy and Stuart excellent again

Addick Addict · January 2020

Johnnysummers5 said:

Jimmy and Stuart excellent again

And Bess: did the job of keeping SA quiet with figures of 27 overs for 62 plus the vital wicket of Elgar

blackpool72 · January 2020

And Curren
He has the ability to take wickets at crucial times.
His two wickets today opened up both ends for Anderson to bowl at

Chizz · January 2020

I thought Root had a very good day today

Lincsaddick · January 2020

good fight back from the bowlers, the pitch looks very treacherous in patches .. how does Anderson keep going ? .. England are probably favourites now as SA bat last

suzisausage · January 2020

An enjoyable day! We did alright!

golfaddick · January 2020

Still dont understand why they packed up with 2 balls left in the over. Still had 10 mins of "extra time" left so no problem there. 2 wickets left to get & 2 balls to go. Yes, very rare Anderson would have got them both out, but it just means tomorrow morning he has to bowl 2 balls to finish the over off as well as not being in "rhythm". More likely to have got them out today when he was in the zone.

Just another one of those annoying quirks of the game & I'm sure it didnt happen 20 or 30 years ago.

Chizz · January 2020

golfaddick said:

Still dont understand why they packed up with 2 balls left in the over. Still had 10 mins of "extra time" left so no problem there. 2 wickets left to get & 2 balls to go. Yes, very rare Anderson would have got them both out, but it just means tomorrow morning he has to bowl 2 balls to finish the over off as well as not being in "rhythm". More likely to have got them out today when he was in the zone.

Just another one of those annoying quirks of the game & I'm sure it didnt happen 20 or 30 years ago.

Totally agree with this - although I think it has been the case for a long time. What is the advantage to the bowling side of walking off two balls early? And, as the bowling side have "earned" the opportunity, they should be given that advantage. Why does the next-in batsman get a free pass to take his pads off? He's done nothing to earn that.