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Spurs sack Pochettino / Mourinho appointed
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look on the bight side, at least we won't have Jose boring us to death on Sky anymore ..
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What's your point?ValleyGary said:
His football is boring, his constant whining and blaming everyone but himself is boring, his overflated ego was amusing at first but now really nauseating and boring.
and to be honest although he has an impressive CV most of it was 10-15 years ago and football has moved on. There was a small era in the game where stifling the life out of a game and nullifying your opposition was in vogue but not anymore, these days the top teams dominate the ball.
Spending money is not entirely relevant as Bore-inho will just buy dour defensive players like Matic and Kante. At Chelsea he had Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne and bombed them out presumbly cos they attacked too much !3 -
The point being that they haven't made a 'backwards step' as you put it.snowinberlin said:
What's your point?ValleyGary said:
His football is boring, his constant whining and blaming everyone but himself is boring, his overflated ego was amusing at first but now really nauseating and boring.
and to be honest although he has an impressive CV most of it was 10-15 years ago and football has moved on. There was a small era in the game where stifling the life out of a game and nullifying your opposition was in vogue but not anymore, these days the top teams dominate the ball.
Spending money is not entirely relevant as Bore-inho will just buy dour defensive players like Matic and Kante. At Chelsea he had Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne and bombed them out presumbly cos they attacked too much !
Mourinho has won more in the last 3 years of managing than Potch has, which completely nullifies any point you're trying to make.
And if Kante is dour then you back up my thinking that you know absolutely fuck all about football as suggested on other threads. (btw Mourinho didn't buy Kante, that was Conte)0 -
I feel like this training thing is such a modern issue that players talk about as an excuse for them being dicks. We saw the same thing with Conte; when he started the players absolutely loved him. They loved his zeal and they loved his training. He used to physically drag players around the pitch to show them where they should be in phases of play, with intense focus on tactical responsibilities. That meant that players like Victor Moses could turn up and be brilliant at RWB in his first ever game playing there and Azpilicueta could immediately transform from a diminutive full back into a title winning centre half in a week. His players knew exactly where they should be instinctively because of the intensive drills, and as a result they could express themselves better on the pitch. Not long after that when he didn't get the investment he wanted and got bitter suddenly the stories came out that the players were bored and sick of so much tactical focus. Mourinho's training at Utd was popular when he came in, with players enjoying themselves more than under van Gaal, but just before he went training was criticised as being miserable and uninspiring. Leicester's players loved dilly-ding dilly-dong fun training and pizza parties when they won the title, but after they got annoyed at him not letting them have chicken burgers for dinner anymore the training was suddenly amateur according to the players. It's no surprise it's the same with Poch. This means one of two things to me; either the story that training is rubbish is put out to the media to justify a sacking, or, more likely, players are dicks, they get bored, and if they're not getting their way they will down tools in training and on the pitch and claim it's the manager's fault for boring them at their day jobs with tried and tested successful methods.Addick Addict said:JohnBoyUK said:
Totally incorrect. Spurs sign players based on a transfer committee. This has been the case since Hoddle was sacked and then we had a year of transition before briefly Santini then Jol took the reigns.Addick Addict said:cantersaddick said:
If you're giving him money why the he'll wouldn't you have given some to Poch!!!Chris_from_Sidcup said:Anyone would think they had him already lined up and contract agreed before getting rid of Pochettino!
The good news for Spurs fans is there's no way he'd agree to go there unless he was given a pretty decent transfer budget.
I don't think Levy trusted Pochettino to spend big even if he gave him the money to do so.
Especially during his early days he made some really good signings at what has proven to be snips in the shape of Trippier (£3.5m), Dele Ali (£5m), Dier (£4m), Davies (£10m), Alderweireld (£11.5m) and Son (£22m). These have all either done on a decent job or in the case of several of them been major successes albeit that in the case of one or two that form has dipped in the last couple of seasons.
Others since though have been poor to varying degrees - Wimmer (£4.3m), N'Jie (£8.3m), Wanyama (£11m), Janssen (£17m), Mbida (£11m), Sissoko (£30m), Sanchez (£42m), Aurier (£23m), Moura (£25m), Llorente (£12m), Sessegnon (£25m) and NDombele (£54m).
Leicester have conceded just 8 goals in 12 League games this season with their CB partnership of Evans (£3m) and Soyuncu (£19m) being ever present. So you don't have to spend big. But it seems that Levy lost trust in Pochettino to spend a penny!
Levy chairs and has ultimate control. Levy has used a lot of ex-managers and players on the committee, the likes of Tim Sherwood, David Pleat (ex Manager), I believe Martin Chivers was also involved for a time. Also there was the likes of Paul Mitchell, the former head of recruitment. We had three directors of football, Frank Arnesen, Franco Baldini and the fella that went to Liverpool, cant remember his name now. The coach would direct the committee to the type of players they need for their system, then the committee would identify the players and Levy would undertake the negotiations.
Remember when Spurs were attempting a title push under Redknapp? (ok, attempting may be pushing it a bit!) He asked for Carlos Tevez (from Utd at the time) and Gary Cahill (from Bolton) and he ended up with Louis Saha and Ryan Nelson! This is Levy all over. Redknapp asked for a CF and a CB and the Levy and the committee came up with the goods but not the tools asked for. This has gone on 17 of the 19 years Levy and ENIC have been in control. This is why Poch came out and demanded things had to change at the end of the previous season. Spurs had to be brave he said. Like give him the money and the reigns. 99% of them players you've named have all been signed by the committee and I would assume that would be the same for Mourinho. Every single one was under a certain age bracket and all would have been bought with potential sell-on value (with the exception of Sissoko and Llorente).
Ironically, one player that Poch did want was Giovanni Lo Celso. Spurs managed to bring him in on a season-long loan. He's only started two games because of injury.
(Amazon must be licking their lips at some of the footage for their documentary this season!)
JohnBoyUK - if the Manager has little or no say in transfer dealings then Mourinho really isn't going to last very long in the job is he? He indicated any number of times at United how he was fed up with not being able to compete with the likes of City and Liverpool so far as this is concerned.
On another note here is a different spin on Pochettino's departure:
Pochettino's side-door exit from Madrid's Estadio Metropolitano, within an hour of Tottenham's Champions League final defeat against Liverpool in June, when he and his coaching staff walked through the media centre, past bemused journalists and straight for a flight to Barcelona, was a clear hint that all was not well at the London club. While the Spurs players gathered their thoughts and headed home the following day, Pochettino was already somewhere else. In the minds of many at the club, he'd checked out long before that 2-0 loss to Liverpool in the Spanish capital.
Pochettino had made it clear that he was no longer fully focused on his job at Spurs, so how could he be surprised that Christian Eriksen would not sign a new long-term contract or that the likes of Toby Alderweireld, Jan Vertonghen and Danny Rose have since questioned their own futures at the club? Sources have told ESPN FC that Pochettino's methods began to grate with senior players, with one claiming privately that his demands on the training pitch would not be accepted by players at a "super club" like Real Madrid, Manchester United or Barcelona, because they were methods that would be accepted only by young players making their way in the game.
If those players think Pochettino's methods were rigid I bet they can't wait to witness Mourinho's relaxed and flexible approach. All they need to do is ask Pogba and Hazzard so far as that is concerned.
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Jose must have been promised money.
Would love Spurs to go all out and get Bale, front 3 of Son-Kane-Bale would be one of the best in the league0 -
Yes but Son would be right back and Bale left back under Mourinho.paulie8290 said:Jose must have been promised money.
Would love Spurs to go all out and get Bale, front 3 of Son-Kane-Bale would be one of the best in the league7 -
I don't think we'll agree on this, I think it's a backward step as I though they would hire a more modern, fresh up and coming boss not yesterdays manValleyGary said:
The point being that they haven't made a 'backwards step' as you put it.snowinberlin said:
What's your point?ValleyGary said:
His football is boring, his constant whining and blaming everyone but himself is boring, his overflated ego was amusing at first but now really nauseating and boring.
and to be honest although he has an impressive CV most of it was 10-15 years ago and football has moved on. There was a small era in the game where stifling the life out of a game and nullifying your opposition was in vogue but not anymore, these days the top teams dominate the ball.
Spending money is not entirely relevant as Bore-inho will just buy dour defensive players like Matic and Kante. At Chelsea he had Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne and bombed them out presumbly cos they attacked too much !
Mourinho has won more in the last 3 years of managing than Potch has, which completely nullifies any point you're trying to make.
And if Kante is dour then you back up my thinking that you know absolutely fuck all about football as suggested on other threads. (btw Mourinho didn't buy Kante, that was Conte)
He may have won a few minor honours at United, in the main he didn't do a great job, overseeing a toxic environment. Same at Chelsea, won a title but rapidly went downhill in season 2, I think his tactics get found out eventually and the jury's out whether he still has the midas touch. To be honest if I was a Spurs fan i'd be dead against this appointment, paying top dollar to watch non football1 -
A Tottenham fan I know has announced on Facebook that as long as Mourinho is manager he will no longer be a Spurs fan.
He doesn't even go to games.14 -
today's 'Times' states that Poch's net outlay on players was £99 Million, an enormous sum by our standards of course … Man City during the same period ? .. Net spend of £667 Millionkillerandflash said:
You have to look at transfers out to balance this thoughAddickted said:All this bollocks about poor Pochettino being ham struck by lack of money given to him to buy players is just errrr, bollocks.
2019/20 Ndembele £54m Sessegnon £24.3m Lo Celso £14.4m loan fee Clarke £9.9m
2018/19 None
2017/18 Sanchez £36m Moura £25.56m Aurier £22,5m Llorente £13.59m Foyth £11.7m
2016/17 Sissoko £31.5m Janssen £19.8m Wanyam £12.96m N'Koudou £9.9m Lopez £1m loan fee
Walker £50m, Trippier £20m, Chadli £13m, Mason £13m, Benteleb £16m and others
His net expenditure has been pretty low.
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When you see Kante described as a dour player, you know you've had enough internet for 1 day.5
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Levy has suddenly taken leave of his senses.
Mourinho is, at best, the day-before-yesterday's man. Even without his coaching/man-management inadequacies, he won't get the autonomy at WHL his galactic but fragile ego requires.
The best spurs can hope for is a season and a half of mediocrity, perhaps rising to 7th or 8th. Far more likely is a gruesome car crash of a fiasco with the 'special one' flouncing out in a huff or Levy sacking him by Easter amid rancour and recrimination with we self-satisfied keyboard worriers crowing loudly and mocking all tottingham fans we meet.
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I agree but some on here think he's still todays man as he won the league cup and Community Shield in 2016/17 !StigThundercock said:Levy has suddenly taken leave of his senses.
Mourinho is, at best, the day-before-yesterday's man. Even without his coaching/man-management inadequacies, he won't get the autonomy at WHL his galactic but fragile ego requires.
The best spurs can hope for is a season and a half of mediocrity, perhaps rising to 7th or 8th. Far more likely is a gruesome car crash of a fiasco with the 'special one' flouncing out in a huff or Levy sacking him by Easter amid rancour and recrimination with we self-satisfied keyboard worriers crowing loudly and mocking all tottingham fans we meet.0 -
Today's best line comes courtesy of Max Rushden in his Guardian piece...Max Rushden said:
trading Pochettino for Jose is like swapping your iPhone 11 Pro for a Nokia 8210 just because the battery run out
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The last year of Poch has felt like the last year of Klopp at Dortmund, unless you turn the players over they will get bored of the way of playing and training regime, and if like Klopp you don't freshen it up, it falls apart after a few years.3
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What's your point?ValleyGary said:
His football is boring, his constant whining and blaming everyone but himself is boring, his overflated ego was amusing at first but now really nauseating and boring.
and to be honest although he has an impressive CV most of it was 10-15 years ago and football has moved on. There was a small era in the game where stifling the life out of a game and nullifying your opposition was in vogue but not anymore, these days the top teams dominate the ball.
Spending money is not entirely relevant as Bore-inho will just buy dour defensive players like Matic and Kante. At Chelsea he had Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne and bombed them out presumbly cos they attacked too much !Dour like Kante? Do you actually watch football?
I think you raise valid points about Mourinho. But as likeable as Pochettino was, he was very much the nearly guy. Spurs played well and had some great wins, but they couldn't deliver consistently and he won nothing.
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Who would you appoint then?snowinberlin said:
I agree but some on here think he's still todays man as he won the league cup and Community Shield in 2016/17 !StigThundercock said:Levy has suddenly taken leave of his senses.
Mourinho is, at best, the day-before-yesterday's man. Even without his coaching/man-management inadequacies, he won't get the autonomy at WHL his galactic but fragile ego requires.
The best spurs can hope for is a season and a half of mediocrity, perhaps rising to 7th or 8th. Far more likely is a gruesome car crash of a fiasco with the 'special one' flouncing out in a huff or Levy sacking him by Easter amid rancour and recrimination with we self-satisfied keyboard worriers crowing loudly and mocking all tottingham fans we meet.
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But Spurs have always been like that. It's Spurs being Spurseycafcfan1990 said:snowinberlin said:
What's your point?ValleyGary said:
His football is boring, his constant whining and blaming everyone but himself is boring, his overflated ego was amusing at first but now really nauseating and boring.
and to be honest although he has an impressive CV most of it was 10-15 years ago and football has moved on. There was a small era in the game where stifling the life out of a game and nullifying your opposition was in vogue but not anymore, these days the top teams dominate the ball.
Spending money is not entirely relevant as Bore-inho will just buy dour defensive players like Matic and Kante. At Chelsea he had Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne and bombed them out presumbly cos they attacked too much !Dour like Kante? Do you actually watch football?
I think you raise valid points about Mourinho. But as likeable as Pochettino was, he was very much the nearly guy. Spurs played well and had some great wins, but they couldn't deliver consistently and he won nothing.
And I don't buy into the winning trophies is the be all and end all and the only yardstick to measure a manager's success, if you've done a decent job and improved the club, given the fans a team to be proud of that should be how you should go down. I don't see Alex Mcleish, Michael Laudrup and Roberto Martinez being inducted into the Premiership managers hall of fame anytime soon1 -
Mourinho can play dour football but he also delivers cups and European qualification.
Levy is taking a relatively safe and short term option to maintain income IMHO.
And if Spurs win things few Spurs fans will complain, or at least not too much.0 -
But trophies do matter, which is why we sing (in our allez allez song) about Jimmy Seed winning the FA Cup, and not Curbs getting top 10 Premier league finishes...snowinberlin said:
But Spurs have always been like that. It's Spurs being Spurseycafcfan1990 said:snowinberlin said:
What's your point?ValleyGary said:
His football is boring, his constant whining and blaming everyone but himself is boring, his overflated ego was amusing at first but now really nauseating and boring.
and to be honest although he has an impressive CV most of it was 10-15 years ago and football has moved on. There was a small era in the game where stifling the life out of a game and nullifying your opposition was in vogue but not anymore, these days the top teams dominate the ball.
Spending money is not entirely relevant as Bore-inho will just buy dour defensive players like Matic and Kante. At Chelsea he had Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne and bombed them out presumbly cos they attacked too much !Dour like Kante? Do you actually watch football?
I think you raise valid points about Mourinho. But as likeable as Pochettino was, he was very much the nearly guy. Spurs played well and had some great wins, but they couldn't deliver consistently and he won nothing.
And I don't buy into the winning trophies is the be all and end all and the only yardstick to measure a manager's success, if you've done a decent job and improved the club, given the fans a team to be proud of that should be how you should go down. I don't see Alex Mcleish, Michael Laudrup and Roberto Martinez being inducted into the Premiership managers hall of fame anytime soon2 -
Spot on. Too early to say whether it’s a wise appointment or not but I would bet it works out ok at the very least. He’s not particularly old and he is still a good manager.Henry Irving said:Mourinho can play dour football but he also delivers cups and European qualification.
Levy is taking a relatively safe and short term option to maintain income IMHO.
And if Spurs win things few Spurs fans will complain, or at least not too much.1 - Sponsored links:
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I think you have defeated yourself there. Martinez did a great job with Wigan and laid the foundations with Swansea.snowinberlin said:
But Spurs have always been like that. It's Spurs being Spurseycafcfan1990 said:snowinberlin said:
What's your point?ValleyGary said:
His football is boring, his constant whining and blaming everyone but himself is boring, his overflated ego was amusing at first but now really nauseating and boring.
and to be honest although he has an impressive CV most of it was 10-15 years ago and football has moved on. There was a small era in the game where stifling the life out of a game and nullifying your opposition was in vogue but not anymore, these days the top teams dominate the ball.
Spending money is not entirely relevant as Bore-inho will just buy dour defensive players like Matic and Kante. At Chelsea he had Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne and bombed them out presumbly cos they attacked too much !Dour like Kante? Do you actually watch football?
I think you raise valid points about Mourinho. But as likeable as Pochettino was, he was very much the nearly guy. Spurs played well and had some great wins, but they couldn't deliver consistently and he won nothing.
And I don't buy into the winning trophies is the be all and end all and the only yardstick to measure a manager's success, if you've done a decent job and improved the club, given the fans a team to be proud of that should be how you should go down. I don't see Alex Mcleish, Michael Laudrup and Roberto Martinez being inducted into the Premiership managers hall of fame anytime soonYour argument is that trophies shouldn’t mean everything then include Martinez in your list because he didn’t win enough trophies...0 -
Surely last chance for Mourinho, certainly in England1
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i'm referring to managers who won a trophy but didn't achieve much else. Does their trophy win trump everything Pochetino did?cafcfan1990 said:
I think you have defeated yourself there. Martinez did a great job with Wigan and laid the foundations with Swansea.snowinberlin said:
But Spurs have always been like that. It's Spurs being Spurseycafcfan1990 said:snowinberlin said:
What's your point?ValleyGary said:
His football is boring, his constant whining and blaming everyone but himself is boring, his overflated ego was amusing at first but now really nauseating and boring.
and to be honest although he has an impressive CV most of it was 10-15 years ago and football has moved on. There was a small era in the game where stifling the life out of a game and nullifying your opposition was in vogue but not anymore, these days the top teams dominate the ball.
Spending money is not entirely relevant as Bore-inho will just buy dour defensive players like Matic and Kante. At Chelsea he had Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne and bombed them out presumbly cos they attacked too much !Dour like Kante? Do you actually watch football?
I think you raise valid points about Mourinho. But as likeable as Pochettino was, he was very much the nearly guy. Spurs played well and had some great wins, but they couldn't deliver consistently and he won nothing.
And I don't buy into the winning trophies is the be all and end all and the only yardstick to measure a manager's success, if you've done a decent job and improved the club, given the fans a team to be proud of that should be how you should go down. I don't see Alex Mcleish, Michael Laudrup and Roberto Martinez being inducted into the Premiership managers hall of fame anytime soonYour argument is that trophies shouldn’t mean everything then include Martinez in your list because he didn’t win enough trophies...
So Alex McLeish did a better job at Birmingham than Poch did with Spurs?0 -
No but we’re not talking about someone who has won 1 or 2 trophies are we. We are talking about someone who has won over 20 with 5 different clubs in 4 different countries.snowinberlin said:
i'm referring to managers who won a trophy but didn't achieve much else. Does their trophy win trump everything Pochetino did?cafcfan1990 said:
I think you have defeated yourself there. Martinez did a great job with Wigan and laid the foundations with Swansea.snowinberlin said:
But Spurs have always been like that. It's Spurs being Spurseycafcfan1990 said:snowinberlin said:
What's your point?ValleyGary said:
His football is boring, his constant whining and blaming everyone but himself is boring, his overflated ego was amusing at first but now really nauseating and boring.
and to be honest although he has an impressive CV most of it was 10-15 years ago and football has moved on. There was a small era in the game where stifling the life out of a game and nullifying your opposition was in vogue but not anymore, these days the top teams dominate the ball.
Spending money is not entirely relevant as Bore-inho will just buy dour defensive players like Matic and Kante. At Chelsea he had Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne and bombed them out presumbly cos they attacked too much !Dour like Kante? Do you actually watch football?
I think you raise valid points about Mourinho. But as likeable as Pochettino was, he was very much the nearly guy. Spurs played well and had some great wins, but they couldn't deliver consistently and he won nothing.
And I don't buy into the winning trophies is the be all and end all and the only yardstick to measure a manager's success, if you've done a decent job and improved the club, given the fans a team to be proud of that should be how you should go down. I don't see Alex Mcleish, Michael Laudrup and Roberto Martinez being inducted into the Premiership managers hall of fame anytime soonYour argument is that trophies shouldn’t mean everything then include Martinez in your list because he didn’t win enough trophies...
So Alex McLeish did a better job at Birmingham than Poch did with Spurs?Your original point was that Mourinho is a backwards step from Pochettino but the evidence doesn’t back that up.0 -
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the other thing about this is that unless Mourinho has changed his man management approach, I can’t see him delivering. The game has moved on since he built his success at Chelsea and although he was once great, his style won’t deliver. Say what you like about Liverpool, but Klopp is the benchmark today and his approach is what success in today’s game looks like. This is a stark contrast from Mourinho. I don’t doubt his tactical nous and knowledge of the game, but his personality will need a transplant if he is able to man manage effectively today.4
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well it's all opinions I guess, alot of people have agreed he is a bit yesterday reading this threadcafcfan1990 said:
No but we’re not talking about someone who has won 1 or 2 trophies are we. We are talking about someone who has won over 20 with 5 different clubs in 4 different countries.snowinberlin said:
i'm referring to managers who won a trophy but didn't achieve much else. Does their trophy win trump everything Pochetino did?cafcfan1990 said:
I think you have defeated yourself there. Martinez did a great job with Wigan and laid the foundations with Swansea.snowinberlin said:
But Spurs have always been like that. It's Spurs being Spurseycafcfan1990 said:snowinberlin said:
What's your point?ValleyGary said:
His football is boring, his constant whining and blaming everyone but himself is boring, his overflated ego was amusing at first but now really nauseating and boring.
and to be honest although he has an impressive CV most of it was 10-15 years ago and football has moved on. There was a small era in the game where stifling the life out of a game and nullifying your opposition was in vogue but not anymore, these days the top teams dominate the ball.
Spending money is not entirely relevant as Bore-inho will just buy dour defensive players like Matic and Kante. At Chelsea he had Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne and bombed them out presumbly cos they attacked too much !Dour like Kante? Do you actually watch football?
I think you raise valid points about Mourinho. But as likeable as Pochettino was, he was very much the nearly guy. Spurs played well and had some great wins, but they couldn't deliver consistently and he won nothing.
And I don't buy into the winning trophies is the be all and end all and the only yardstick to measure a manager's success, if you've done a decent job and improved the club, given the fans a team to be proud of that should be how you should go down. I don't see Alex Mcleish, Michael Laudrup and Roberto Martinez being inducted into the Premiership managers hall of fame anytime soonYour argument is that trophies shouldn’t mean everything then include Martinez in your list because he didn’t win enough trophies...
So Alex McLeish did a better job at Birmingham than Poch did with Spurs?Your original point was that Mourinho is a backwards step from Pochettino but the evidence doesn’t back that up.
I just think hes the wrong man for Spurs, that new stadium they need full every week, they aint gonna come and watch non football.
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The stadium will be full regardless. How long is their waiting list.snowinberlin said:
well it's all opinions I guess, alot of people have agreed he is a bit yesterday reading this threadcafcfan1990 said:
No but we’re not talking about someone who has won 1 or 2 trophies are we. We are talking about someone who has won over 20 with 5 different clubs in 4 different countries.snowinberlin said:
i'm referring to managers who won a trophy but didn't achieve much else. Does their trophy win trump everything Pochetino did?cafcfan1990 said:
I think you have defeated yourself there. Martinez did a great job with Wigan and laid the foundations with Swansea.snowinberlin said:
But Spurs have always been like that. It's Spurs being Spurseycafcfan1990 said:snowinberlin said:
What's your point?ValleyGary said:
His football is boring, his constant whining and blaming everyone but himself is boring, his overflated ego was amusing at first but now really nauseating and boring.
and to be honest although he has an impressive CV most of it was 10-15 years ago and football has moved on. There was a small era in the game where stifling the life out of a game and nullifying your opposition was in vogue but not anymore, these days the top teams dominate the ball.
Spending money is not entirely relevant as Bore-inho will just buy dour defensive players like Matic and Kante. At Chelsea he had Mo Salah and Kevin de Bruyne and bombed them out presumbly cos they attacked too much !Dour like Kante? Do you actually watch football?
I think you raise valid points about Mourinho. But as likeable as Pochettino was, he was very much the nearly guy. Spurs played well and had some great wins, but they couldn't deliver consistently and he won nothing.
And I don't buy into the winning trophies is the be all and end all and the only yardstick to measure a manager's success, if you've done a decent job and improved the club, given the fans a team to be proud of that should be how you should go down. I don't see Alex Mcleish, Michael Laudrup and Roberto Martinez being inducted into the Premiership managers hall of fame anytime soonYour argument is that trophies shouldn’t mean everything then include Martinez in your list because he didn’t win enough trophies...
So Alex McLeish did a better job at Birmingham than Poch did with Spurs?Your original point was that Mourinho is a backwards step from Pochettino but the evidence doesn’t back that up.
I just think hes the wrong man for Spurs, that new stadium they need full every week, they aint gonna come and watch non football.
Maybe he needs to reinvent himself? If it's the same old mourinho I can't see him lasting long
He won't last long but I doubt Levy or Jose expect him too.
He's come in as a fire fighter, get them out of a mess, win a cup, qualify for Europe and then move on much richer while Spurs hire the young gun, whoever that is.
Will the plan work? Who knows.
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I can believe people still take the Oxford supporting troll seriously.
At least out two resident spanners are mostly serious posters.0
