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Sterling to miss Montenegro match
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Sterling's emotions got the better of him, he knows and accepts that I'm sure.
If the sanction is intended to act as a deterrent to other players, Southgate's deluded, it's simply a token exercise of authority to re-inforce discipline. That being the case a token fine would have had the same effect and it could have been kept covered up. What goes in the dressing room stays in the dressing room and rumours can simply be denied - Gomez and Sterling have already kissed and made up.
All Southgate has done is to ensure Sterling will suffer maximum vitriol on social media and the press. also doubt it helps his short term mental state for England games, he is clearly highly strung.
Only if Sterling failed to show contrition and he and Gomez couldn't sort it out between them would a ban be justified in which case an indefinite ban, not a token one game.
I'm afraid Southgate's handled this like a school headmistress, not the national team manager.1 -
They had a fight at SGP last night and set the fire alarm off, leading to everyone being evacuated. That’s what prompted the decision to drop Sterling.0
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This is how I see it. Training bust ups happen regularly at all levels and players make up. I recall having a few myself. There is also an expectation that that is where it stays and doesn't get publicised in this way. Players demand it of each other and Southgate has overreacted IMO.Dippenhall said:Sterling's emotions got the better of him, he knows and accepts that I'm sure.
If the sanction is intended to act as a deterrent to other players, Southgate's deluded, it's simply a token exercise of authority to re-inforce discipline. That being the case a token fine would have had the same effect and it could have been kept covered up. What goes in the dressing room stays in the dressing room and rumours can simply be denied - Gomez and Sterling have already kissed and made up.
All Southgate has done is to ensure Sterling will suffer maximum vitriol on social media and the press. also doubt it helps his short term mental state for England games, he is clearly highly strung.
Only if Sterling failed to show contrition and he and Gomez couldn't sort it out between them would a ban be justified in which case an indefinite ban, not a token one game.
I'm afraid Southgate's handled this like a school headmistress, not the national team manager.0 -
Sterling grabbed our Joe by the neck in the Canteen. How do you keep that quiet ?
Good management by Southgate because it didn't happen on the training field. That is completely crossing the line and Sterling was so immature.
Fabio Capello would have sent Sterling home and risked the player not wanting to play for England again.
Sterling has turned into a world class player at City and in the last Year has shown that form for England. I still don't understand in the last WC he was picked up front with Kane when he couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo and went a couple of years without scoring for the national team.
A complete lack of options I presume.1 -
Bloody millennial snowflakes! There's always been club rivalries - Sterling needs to get over himself.0
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Nothing wrong with a bit of discipline in the ranks.0
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Especially as Southgate will know the damage club issues can cause England first hand.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Nothing wrong with a bit of discipline in the ranks.1 -
typical, two players have a bit of handbags and the non english player is suspended whilst the english player is still available...1
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It may sound like an old cliche, but blokes in the early 20's on £100k+ a week, must naturally come with big egos, so I would've thought a large part of the international manager's job is to nip this kind of thing in the bud.1
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Half of your squad pulling out with injuries ain't they?cafcdave123 said:typical, two players have a bit of handbags and the non english player is suspended whilst the english player is still available...0 - Sponsored links:
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yep, i mentioned this not too long ago but all players should be reporting for duty to be assessed by our Docs and anyone asking to not be considered for squad selection whether directly or through their club (Kieran Tierney) should be told not to worry about getting selected ever again.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Half of your squad pulling out with injuries ain't they?cafcdave123 said:typical, two players have a bit of handbags and the non english player is suspended whilst the english player is still available...
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Maybe if Capello would have reacted like this we wouldnt have been so shit in South Africa. Instead he let bad feeling fester throughout the squad.
Great from Southgate imo.2 -
Not excusing Sterling's actions, but what had happened or been said beforehand?
If it had been the other way round, and it had been Gomez (one of our own etc) who got dropped after attacking Sterling, I wonder how people here would have reacted.0 -
I think this is just is... Had the initial issue happened on the training ground then am sure Southgate wouldnt have dumped Sterling and would have let the two of them sort it outsoapboxsam said:Sterling grabbed our Joe by the neck in the Canteen. How do you keep that quiet ?
Good management by Southgate because it didn't happen on the training field. That is completely crossing the line and Sterling was so immature.
Fabio Capello would have sent Sterling home and risked the player not wanting to play for England again.
Sterling has turned into a world class player at City and in the last Year has shown that form for England. I still don't understand in the last WC he was picked up front with Kane when he couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo and went a couple of years without scoring for the national team.
A complete lack of options I presume.
Instead its an issue thats boiled over from Club Level; Southgate I imagine doesnt give a shit what issues players have from games against each other - Leave them at the bloody door when you're on England duty!!
There is a difference between the two
Representing the National Team involves putting your club behind you, not a chance to settle old arguments0 -
Impressed with how Gomez has handled this, as a lot of people are on the insider.2
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he's worried about not having an england career, he's just biding his time until liverpool next play city and he's going to break his legs.mendonca said:Impressed with how Gomez has handled this, as a lot of people are on the insider.1 -
Very poor from Southgate. Thrown our best player under the bus! How hard is it to sort out a little handbags.5
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actually, i believe the story got out before England had commented on it (maybe Vardy's mrs was there)cafcsinger said:Very poor from Southgate. Thrown our best player under the bus! How hard is it to sort out a little handbags.
England/Southgate has now nipped the story in the bud by confirming that something happened, has been dealt with and will not be commented on further.
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If we were playing Belgium instead of Montenegro, I wonder if Sterling would have been dropped then?cafcdave123 said:
actually, i believe the story got out before England had commented on it (maybe Vardy's mrs was there)cafcsinger said:Very poor from Southgate. Thrown our best player under the bus! How hard is it to sort out a little handbags.
England/Southgate has now nipped the story in the bud by confirming that something happened, has been dealt with and will not be commented on further.
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Hopefully we'll never have to knowDamoNorthStand said:
If we were playing Belgium instead of Montenegro, I wonder if Sterling would have been dropped then?cafcdave123 said:
actually, i believe the story got out before England had commented on it (maybe Vardy's mrs was there)cafcsinger said:Very poor from Southgate. Thrown our best player under the bus! How hard is it to sort out a little handbags.
England/Southgate has now nipped the story in the bud by confirming that something happened, has been dealt with and will not be commented on further.
You'd hope it would the case0 - Sponsored links:
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i don't think Sterling would be dropped if you needed to win this game.DamoNorthStand said:
If we were playing Belgium instead of Montenegro, I wonder if Sterling would have been dropped then?cafcdave123 said:
actually, i believe the story got out before England had commented on it (maybe Vardy's mrs was there)cafcsinger said:Very poor from Southgate. Thrown our best player under the bus! How hard is it to sort out a little handbags.
England/Southgate has now nipped the story in the bud by confirming that something happened, has been dealt with and will not be commented on further.
if stories of what happened are to be believed, then i think if the roles in this were reversed then Gomez would have been sent home rather than dropped for a game.0 -
This is my point. Have we been lucky that he has been dropped for an easy match or would Southgate have done so if the match was crucial to our qualification. Sterling is arguably our best player! Don't create a precedent which might bite us in future, get it sorted internally and get assurances it won't happen again from the players rather than acting like a headmaster!
Play it down in relation to the press with the help of the players concerned.0 -
He misses one match, and wasn't sent home, how is that thrown under a bus ?cafcsinger said:Very poor from Southgate. Thrown our best player under the bus! How hard is it to sort out a little handbags.
Of course none of the canteen staff would've gone to the papers for a scoop story and a few hundred quid in their pocket!
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Looking at the mark under Joe's eye....I'd imagine a bit more than some words were said. We don't know what happened yet are trying to attach a worth conclusion to the events.0
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Lucky RS is a midget or he could have had his eye out
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Once again, no player is bigger than England. I’m glad he’s set the precedent. If it happens again and we have a big game coming up, then more fool the player involved not the manager.MuttleyCAFC said:This is my point. Have we been lucky that he has been dropped for an easy match or would Southgate have done so if the match was crucial to our qualification. Sterling is arguably our best player! Don't create a precedent which might bite us in future, get it sorted internally and get assurances it won't happen again from the players rather than acting like a headmaster!
Play it down in relation to the press with the help of the players concerned.5 -
This is where I disagree big time. England have some very good players and two world class players. One of them is Sterling. That gives us an edge and a chance. I was one and a half when we won the World Cup. We shouldn't accept failure - look at Hodgson, he failed in three f*ing tournaments but our Englishness let him off. Kane and Sterling deserve understanding and support. Would Portugal suspend Ronaldo and they have actually won something recently.0
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So he should be allowed to get away with anything because he is a great player.MuttleyCAFC said:This is where I disagree big time. England have some very good players and two world class players. One of them is Sterling. That gives us an edge and a chance. I was one and a half when we won the World Cup. We shouldn't accept failure - look at Hodgson, he failed in three f*ing tournaments but our Englishness let him off. Kane and Sterling deserve understanding and support. Would Portugal suspend Ronaldo and they have actually won something recently.
That sets a dangerous precedent, he has gone into a England setup and carried something on that should have been left alone and has rightly been punished9 -
Then you haven’t learnt from previous squads and managers. It was well known that United, Chelsea and Liverpool players didn’t interact on international duty under Sven and Capello. They was allowed too much power and we had plenty of ‘world class’ players then. It’s one the biggest reasons we didn’t win anything. If Sterling was to act like a cock when we have a big important game coming up, then I don’t want him near the line-up. Same with Kane or Sancho.MuttleyCAFC said:This is where I disagree big time. England have some very good players and two world class players. One of them is Sterling. That gives us an edge and a chance. I was one and a half when we won the World Cup. We shouldn't accept failure - look at Hodgson, he failed in three f*ing tournaments but our Englishness let him off. Kane and Sterling deserve understanding and support. Would Portugal suspend Ronaldo and they have actually won something recently.8
