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Naby Sarr.
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Most footballers can play on instinct, it's when they have a bit of time to make a decision that separates the good from the bad.Leuth said:So yeah, not inner anger so much as inner instinct and blocking out all thoughts when given a small amount of time. If that corner had been whipped in hard to the same space I'm sure he'd have cleared it0 -
That's one single aspect of being a footballer among many. It's not a simple case of good and bad. Sarr hasn't become a bad footballer in one moment, and he certainly wasn't one before. This is all a bit judgemental and witch-hunty2
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Until he learns to stay fully focused for the whole game he will always have moments like Saturday.
I hope he can do this but I'm not holding my breath.2 -
This explains a lot.Leuth said:Another thing about freezing - it's not that he doesn't think about the situation, it's quite the opposite. If he didn't have a thought in his head he'd have jumped for that ball, but the pause for thought was what did him. If he needs to work on anything it's to think a bit less and play by instinct. I know what freezing is like. It's why I'm a much better fielder in cricket when the ball flies hard at me, and why I'm a bit dodgy under the high ball
What affects Leuth affects Sarr, what Leuth does, Sarr does and for the same reasons.
Leuth doesn't just like Sarr, he thinks he is Sarr.
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Didn't expect my comment to be taken so literally, I know there are more aspects but it's not a good sign when any player struggles when having thinking time.Leuth said:That's one single aspect of being a footballer among many. It's not a simple case of good and bad. Sarr hasn't become a bad footballer in one moment, and he certainly wasn't one before. This is all a bit judgemental and witch-hunty0 -
My heart sank on Saturday, when I saw the team & Naby was playing.
I was very surprised.
I know I'm not the only one who realises that he struggles/panics/freezes under pressure. Most can see it.
If there's one game really not suitable for Naby, it's Millwall A.
It's a long time since I've been so disappointed and angry at full time as I was on Saturday.
Your mood is not helped by being locked in for an hour.
I'm still pissed off now, but I'll be 100% behind Naby at the games and always will be.
There is a big difference between voicing an opinion on a forum and either getting behind or abusing players on the pitch.
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Sarr suffers from the footballer's equivalent of stage fright/he's more at home doing Pub Rock than starring at the Albert Hall2
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I'm not sure I'm ready to forgive him and I wont be for a long time. I still havent forgotten how atrocious he was in this division last time round. He is football's Audley Harrison, has all the raw ingredients to be one of the best centre halves ever to play at Charlton but has absolutely no desire in him unless he is playing against someone tiny.
I'm loathe to jump on bandwagons but I'm confident if anyone has the desire to trawl back through my posts you will see how I feel about him as a footballer. Its absolutely nothing personal I just wish he didnt play for us in fact he be a dream for someone like Taylor to pin and turn inside out and for an energetic midfield to force inevitable mistakes out of him.
I was listening to the podcast earlier and how the lads were saying it wasnt a game for Nabby. Every important game he has been involved in he has shrunk and whilst I may sound really unkind I lost patience with him a few seasons ago, you can't change players like that mentally, they will always have a big hairy bollock drop in them and whilst everyone makes mistakes, Sarrs mistakes will be on him and around him like a haze for the next 6 games he's involved in. Players like that need intensive sports psychology constantly and if he's already had it then he can take the next few months off.
The lads from my group who are still going regularly kept telling me last season how much he had improved and what a player he was. And as much as I wanted to believe them I always feel we are an easier to beat team with him in it
I don't want any player to fail at Charlton but some you have to be honest about and see them for what they are. In poor Nabbys case he is a big boy with a rabbits heart and a good left foot15 -
Absolutely spot on mate1
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Lack of desire is absolutely not the correct charge. Even on Saturday he was charging around putting tackles in and winning the ball high up the field with the best of them. It's a pressure thing. Not wanting it too little. That's a horrible thing to accuse him of - he never hides!
I'm just sad he had to make this error against this team. He's given his detractors all the ammunition they'll ever need2 -
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Wrong.Leuth said:Lack of desire is absolutely not the correct charge. Even on Saturday he was charging around putting tackles in and winning the ball high up the field with the best of them. It's a pressure thing. Not wanting it too little. That's a horrible thing to accuse him of - he never hides!
I'm just sad he had to make this error against this team. He's given his detractors all the ammunition they'll ever need
Just give up mate.2 -
No, I won't give up, when people accuse a player who clearly gives his all and was obviously in bits after his error of lacking desire. I won't have it and I won't let go. He clearly has a few issues that prevent him from being a top level player but this is not one of them and never was6
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I don't disagree about his lack of desire.Leuth said:No, I won't give up, when people accuse a player who clearly gives his all and was obviously in bits after his error of lacking desire. I won't have it and I won't let go. He clearly has a few issues that prevent him from being a top level player but this is not one of them and never was
It's his lack of mental strength when under pressure that lets him down.
He got away with it most of the time in league one but the higher up the football pyramid you go the tougher it gets.
He is physically strong but mentally weak.1 -
Not sure what that defending was for the second goal if not desire.0
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Maybe, you make a food argument. My problem with him is in a 50/50 with someone like Smith I should always fancy the 6 foot 5 lump of muscle in a similar way I would if Linvoy Primus, John Terry, Sol Campbell or Danny Shittu was in a similar position. Problem is lack of desire can manifest itself in strange ways, I don't think he hides in terms of wanting the ball after he's shanked one straight out for a throw but either he is too indecisive which is what I think you are saying, and given the way he's been caught in possession over the entire time he's been with us is probably closer to the truthLeuth said:Lack of desire is absolutely not the correct charge. Even on Saturday he was charging around putting tackles in and winning the ball high up the field with the best of them. It's a pressure thing. Not wanting it too little. That's a horrible thing to accuse him of - he never hides!
I'm just sad he had to make this error against this team. He's given his detractors all the ammunition they'll ever need
For me, and anyone else that second goal was absolutely defendable, you don't take your eyes off the ball, get up early, scream NABBYS UP and send it away. Matt Smith had a lot to do to score that and whilst defending them I don't imagine is fun for a character like Nabby in a game like Saturday, he didnt have time to think and be indecisive you watch the ball and dominate the space
Easy for me to say I know1 -
He is a fucking liability. Get shot of.
Next.5 -
At this level, every player is a 'liability'. We don't have Virgil Van Dijk1
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Loved him in Mary PoppinsLeuth said:At this level, every player is a 'liability'. We don't have Virgil Van Dijk8 -
I'd put Sarr in for our next game. He has a lot of the raw ingredients and it is the job of the manager and coaches to improve the weaker areas of his game. To be fair, I do understand why Fosu was let go but I wouldn't have. When you have a team, every player gives you a different challenge. Some are easy to manage and some are hard, but some players are worth the effort. If they are not worth the effort then get rid by all means. Sarr is worth the effort though and I would want to see signs he has learned from Saturday.0
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Some of the mental gymnastics going on to try and defend his performance are laughable to read.
I doubt its a lack of desire, otherwise Bowyer wouldn't have him around the team. Lack of mental strength - that argument is a strong one based on numerous performances. The fact that it felt so predictable that this would happen to him, in this particular game, says it all.
Frankly - I'm past caring what the 'issue' is with him. Whatever it is, he's not good enough and I have a feeling its the sort of weakness that isn't easily coached out of him.
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Tricky one really. If he has another stinker it it will really break him. I’m hoping him being away with Senegal and hopefully winning a cap will be a real boost for him.MuttleyCAFC said:I'd put Sarr in for our next game. He has a lot of the raw ingredients and it is the job of the manager and coaches to improve the weaker areas of his game. To be fair, I do understand why Fosu was let go but I wouldn't have. When you have a team, every player gives you a different challenge. Some are easy to manage and some are hard, but some players are worth the effort. If they are not worth the effort then get rid by all means. Sarr is worth the effort though and I would want to see signs he has learned from Saturday.All that said, Bowyer will revert to 2 Centre Backs against Cardiff which means that aside from injuries, Sarr doesn’t get in the team.0 -
Just getting weird now.Leuth said:No, I won't give up, when people accuse a player who clearly gives his all and was obviously in bits after his error of lacking desire. I won't have it and I won't let go. He clearly has a few issues that prevent him from being a top level player but this is not one of them and never was0 -
Millwall lad at work's first words were 'how crap is Sarr'Dazzler21 said:Think it's really important to listen to what opposition fans say about a performance.
I was reminded of the time Wimbledon fans were cheering him at the Kingstonian ground when he eventually made successful pass on about the hour mark.2 -
Then he's surprised when people lose their temper after years of wind ups.Croydon said:
Just getting weird now.Leuth said:No, I won't give up, when people accuse a player who clearly gives his all and was obviously in bits after his error of lacking desire. I won't have it and I won't let go. He clearly has a few issues that prevent him from being a top level player but this is not one of them and never was
Quite honestly he should be pleased that's his life's work comes to fruition.1 -
Sarr is error prone, and sadly probably not good enough right now, consistently enough, for the Championship.
I still like him, I think the way he turned things round was so unlikely a few years ago, and in my view he gives his all when he puts the shirt on and has some great attributes.
So by all means critique a performance but I think it's unfair to say he doesn't give his all. I'll still sing his name when he next plays.10 -
With Cardiff coming up soon who are another big side,how do we deal with free kicks and corners,answers on a post card please1
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Stop giving needless ones away, at least 4 we gave away including the goal were needless stupid decisions to make a challenge.doronron said:With Cardiff coming up soon who are another big side,how do we deal with free kicks and corners,answers on a post card please6 -
This explains a lot.Henry Irving said:
This explains a lot.Leuth said:Another thing about freezing - it's not that he doesn't think about the situation, it's quite the opposite. If he didn't have a thought in his head he'd have jumped for that ball, but the pause for thought was what did him. If he needs to work on anything it's to think a bit less and play by instinct. I know what freezing is like. It's why I'm a much better fielder in cricket when the ball flies hard at me, and why I'm a bit dodgy under the high ball
What affects Leuth affects Sarr, what Leuth does, Sarr does and for the same reasons.
Leuth doesn't just like Sarr, he thinks he is Sarr.
Irving isn't just obsessed with Leuth, he'd like to think he's as erudite as Leuth.
But he isn't.3 -
Sorry Leuth but people have been saying for weeks that he was looking like a disaster waiting to happen. All you had to offer was that he looked to get the ball moving from the back and nothing he had done lead to goals conceded.
After watching Saturday’s performance, were the majority right or were you?3
