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The Surrey batsman is more disposableAddick Addict said:Leach is opening with Burns. Jennings the bottler!
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That does, of course, mean that, unless we change the order, our top four will all be left handers0
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Leach survives the only over of the day for us1
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Only 201 more runs needed for him to match Jason GillespieAddick Addict said:Leach survives the only over of the day for us
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Really don't get sending Leach in. If Jennings is incapable of surviving one over then he shouldn't be out there.
Not only do we have a top four that are all left handers but it hands the initiative to SL. We also now have the potential situation of our top scorer from the first innings coming in at 9 with only Rashid and Anderson to bat after him.1 -
And it still isAddick Addict said:
Last time the spinners took all the wickets taken by bowlers for England in a Test innings was 1962Addick Addict said:
It doesn't happen too often that a seamer doesn't take a wicket for us in a completed innings either.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
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Hasn't Jennings been under the lid, crouched down all day? Probably stiff!Addick Addict said:Really don't get sending Leach in. If Jennings is incapable of surviving one over then he shouldn't be out there.
Not only do we have a top four that are all left handers but it hands the initiative to SL. We also now have the potential situation of our top scorer from the first innings coming in at 9 with only Rashid and Anderson to bat after him.0 -
You sure about that?Leuth said:
And it still isAddick Addict said:
Last time the spinners took all the wickets taken by bowlers for England in a Test innings was 1962Addick Addict said:
It doesn't happen too often that a seamer doesn't take a wicket for us in a completed innings either.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
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Unless run outs have been recategorised as spin bowling, yesAddick Addict said:
You sure about that?Leuth said:
And it still isAddick Addict said:
Last time the spinners took all the wickets taken by bowlers for England in a Test innings was 1962Addick Addict said:
It doesn't happen too often that a seamer doesn't take a wicket for us in a completed innings either.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
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Not towards the end he wasn't. Even so, Burns bats at 1 and just blocks as Leach did. No need to muck about with the order or have four left handers up top.Cafc43v3r said:
Hasn't Jennings been under the lid, crouched down all day? Probably stiff!Addick Addict said:Really don't get sending Leach in. If Jennings is incapable of surviving one over then he shouldn't be out there.
Not only do we have a top four that are all left handers but it hands the initiative to SL. We also now have the potential situation of our top scorer from the first innings coming in at 9 with only Rashid and Anderson to bat after him.0 - Sponsored links:
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Karunaratne was run out by Stokes.Addick Addict said:
You sure about that?Leuth said:
And it still isAddick Addict said:
Last time the spinners took all the wickets taken by bowlers for England in a Test innings was 1962Addick Addict said:
It doesn't happen too often that a seamer doesn't take a wicket for us in a completed innings either.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
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I can understand the logic of having Leach play out the one over. Why risk one of your main batsmen?
It's a good opportunity for Leach as well, indeed I'm slightly surprised Sam Curran didn't volunteer, unless the England management thought he was too good to risk?1 -
I've highlighted "all the wickets taken by bowlers" in bold which is what I originally stated. So, does all the "wickets taken by bowlers" include run outs?Leuth said:
Unless run outs have been recategorised as spin bowling, yesAddick Addict said:
You sure about that?Leuth said:
And it still isAddick Addict said:
Last time the spinners took all the wickets taken by bowlers for England in a Test innings was 1962Addick Addict said:
It doesn't happen too often that a seamer doesn't take a wicket for us in a completed innings either.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
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And he delivered:Riviera said:
I think we need Andrew Samson for that one.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
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The last time 4 spinners took a wicket in a Test innings for England before today was v India at Madras in 1962 (Lock, Allen, Parfitt & Barber)2 -
Sorry I missed your qualification there AA.Addick Addict said:
I've highlighted "all the wickets taken by bowlers" in bold which is what I originally stated. So, does all the "wickets taken by bowlers" include run outs?Leuth said:
Unless run outs have been recategorised as spin bowling, yesAddick Addict said:
You sure about that?Leuth said:
And it still isAddick Addict said:
Last time the spinners took all the wickets taken by bowlers for England in a Test innings was 1962Addick Addict said:
It doesn't happen too often that a seamer doesn't take a wicket for us in a completed innings either.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
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And guess what? There was a run out in that innings too!Riviera said:
And he delivered:Riviera said:
I think we need Andrew Samson for that one.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
Andrew Samson
@AWSStats
2h2 hours ago
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The last time 4 spinners took a wicket in a Test innings for England before today was v India at Madras in 1962 (Lock, Allen, Parfitt & Barber)0 -
So?Addick Addict said:
And guess what? There was a run out in that innings too!Riviera said:
And he delivered:Riviera said:
I think we need Andrew Samson for that one.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
Andrew Samson
@AWSStats
2h2 hours ago
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The last time 4 spinners took a wicket in a Test innings for England before today was v India at Madras in 1962 (Lock, Allen, Parfitt & Barber)0 -
See aboveRiviera said:
So?Addick Addict said:
And guess what? There was a run out in that innings too!Riviera said:
And he delivered:Riviera said:
I think we need Andrew Samson for that one.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
Andrew Samson
@AWSStats
2h2 hours ago
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The last time 4 spinners took a wicket in a Test innings for England before today was v India at Madras in 1962 (Lock, Allen, Parfitt & Barber)0 -
Got confirmation that I've been successful in the Surrey ballot for next summer's England matches which is good news!3
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I saw above, just don't see the relevance.Addick Addict said:
See aboveRiviera said:
So?Addick Addict said:
And guess what? There was a run out in that innings too!Riviera said:
And he delivered:Riviera said:
I think we need Andrew Samson for that one.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
Andrew Samson
@AWSStats
2h2 hours ago
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The last time 4 spinners took a wicket in a Test innings for England before today was v India at Madras in 1962 (Lock, Allen, Parfitt & Barber)0 - Sponsored links:
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The run out was by Stokes ,he’s a bowler ;-)Addick Addict said:
I've highlighted "all the wickets taken by bowlers" in bold which is what I originally stated. So, does all the "wickets taken by bowlers" include run outs?Leuth said:
Unless run outs have been recategorised as spin bowling, yesAddick Addict said:
You sure about that?Leuth said:
And it still isAddick Addict said:
Last time the spinners took all the wickets taken by bowlers for England in a Test innings was 1962Addick Addict said:
It doesn't happen too often that a seamer doesn't take a wicket for us in a completed innings either.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
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There is another possibility going around:Riviera said:
And he delivered:Riviera said:
I think we need Andrew Samson for that one.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
Andrew Samson
@AWSStats
2h2 hours ago
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The last time 4 spinners took a wicket in a Test innings for England before today was v India at Madras in 1962 (Lock, Allen, Parfitt & Barber)
England v West Indies 1976 at The Oval
Underwood, Miller, Balderstone and Tony Grieg who sometimes bowled Off-spinners. He famously did this at Port of Spain in 1973/4 when he opened the bowling with his medium pace and then switched to off spin later. He took 13 wickets in the match. I remember the match at the Oval in 1976 as well as can be expected for such a long time ago but don't recall Greig bowling anything but his normal style.0 -
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The relevance is that this was the match that I was referring to when I mentioned that it was the last time all wickets taken by bowlers were as a result of balls delivered by spinners. And both that innings and SL's here included a run out.Riviera said:
I saw above, just don't see the relevance.Addick Addict said:
See aboveRiviera said:
So?Addick Addict said:
And guess what? There was a run out in that innings too!Riviera said:
And he delivered:Riviera said:
I think we need Andrew Samson for that one.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
Andrew Samson
@AWSStats
2h2 hours ago
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The last time 4 spinners took a wicket in a Test innings for England before today was v India at Madras in 1962 (Lock, Allen, Parfitt & Barber)
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Traditionally it is... so earlier in the series there was talk of swapping a seamer for a spinner.killerandflash said:Amazing that before the match there were suggestions that the pitch here would be more seam friendly than the one at Galle!
Once they saw the pitch they said straight away 3 spinners was needed.0 -
Thought you were a Kent fan ??!!killerandflash said:Got confirmation that I've been successful in the Surrey ballot for next summer's England matches which is good news!
How did you do for the ballot for the Canterbury test matche(s) ?0 -
ha ha, sadly I have to frequent The Oval to watch England internationals. It pains me that every beer I buy is helping Surrey poach yet another bowler from another county!The_President said:
Thought you were a Kent fan ??!!killerandflash said:Got confirmation that I've been successful in the Surrey ballot for next summer's England matches which is good news!
How did you do for the ballot for the Canterbury test matche(s) ?3 -
4 of us applied and at least 3 of the 4 have been successful. Don't know about the 4th yet.killerandflash said:Got confirmation that I've been successful in the Surrey ballot for next summer's England matches which is good news!
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I've got tickets for the 1st day of The Ashes at Edgbaston. Will get Lords and Oval through my contacts. Carrying on my run of attending at least one day of every home Ashes series for 46 years. The last series I missed was 1968.4
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So, as a Surrey fan, i was unsuccessful in the ballot.killerandflash said:
ha ha, sadly I have to frequent The Oval to watch England internationals. It pains me that every beer I buy is helping Surrey poach yet another bowler from another county!The_President said:
Thought you were a Kent fan ??!!killerandflash said:Got confirmation that I've been successful in the Surrey ballot for next summer's England matches which is good news!
How did you do for the ballot for the Canterbury test matche(s) ?
Do you think that is right?
However, i was successful for the Canterbury Test match.1 -
No surprise there - Viv Richards scored 291, so anyone who could turn their arm over did in that game! 9 bowlers, including Willey and Steele, both spinners without a wicket. In PoS, Grieg bowled off-cutters, not spin.Riviera said:
There is another possibility going around:Riviera said:
And he delivered:Riviera said:
I think we need Andrew Samson for that one.SantaClaus said:When was the last time 4 English spinners each took a wicket in an Innings?
Andrew Samson
@AWSStats
2h2 hours ago
More
The last time 4 spinners took a wicket in a Test innings for England before today was v India at Madras in 1962 (Lock, Allen, Parfitt & Barber)
England v West Indies 1976 at The Oval
Underwood, Miller, Balderstone and Tony Grieg who sometimes bowled Off-spinners. He famously did this at Port of Spain in 1973/4 when he opened the bowling with his medium pace and then switched to off spin later. He took 13 wickets in the match. I remember the match at the Oval in 1976 as well as can be expected for such a long time ago but don't recall Greig bowling anything but his normal style.1
