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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Foden also made the first goal as well with an equally brilliant pass. The best young talent England has had for many years.

    Add Foden and Gomez to our team that got to the World Cup semis (along with Shaw for Young and eventually Sessegnon) then we can justifiably get very excited for the next few tournaments
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    Exiled_Addick said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Although on the subject of Foden what a pass to get an assist and then what a goal - Get him in the bloody England squad with Mason Mount!!


    I’ll probably get lol’ed for this, but what is so special about that pass? He was in acres of space and just had to lift it over the heads of the two defenders who were in a line with the receiving player also in acres of space. I would expect even our midfielders to make that pass more often than not.
    I see what you mean, his pass for the first goal was better - https://streamja.com/QWLR.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Exiled_Addick said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Although on the subject of Foden what a pass to get an assist and then what a goal - Get him in the bloody England squad with Mason Mount!!


    I’ll probably get lol’ed for this, but what is so special about that pass? He was in acres of space and just had to lift it over the heads of the two defenders who were in a line with the receiving player also in acres of space. I would expect even our midfielders to make that pass more often than not.
    I make you right, it’s because he’s wearing a Man City shirt, and pundits want to be proved right when he inevitably gets called up. Any player given acres of space can look like Pirlo. That said I do rate the lad.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Exiled_Addick said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Although on the subject of Foden what a pass to get an assist and then what a goal - Get him in the bloody England squad with Mason Mount!!


    I’ll probably get lol’ed for this, but what is so special about that pass? He was in acres of space and just had to lift it over the heads of the two defenders who were in a line with the receiving player also in acres of space. I would expect even our midfielders to make that pass more often than not.
    If its so easy why dont we see it more, not to mention this kid is only 18 and hasnt barely any first team football

    Its more the weight of the pass to ensure it gets past the Defenders and on to the foot of Mahrez so easily - I can imagine a lot of cases would see the ball falling short for the defender to head away
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    Exiled_Addick said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Although on the subject of Foden what a pass to get an assist and then what a goal - Get him in the bloody England squad with Mason Mount!!


    I’ll probably get lol’ed for this, but what is so special about that pass? He was in acres of space and just had to lift it over the heads of the two defenders who were in a line with the receiving player also in acres of space. I would expect even our midfielders to make that pass more often than not.
    Not just me then. Cullen’s assist for Grant the other day was a more impressive pass.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,760
    Exiled_Addick said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Although on the subject of Foden what a pass to get an assist and then what a goal - Get him in the bloody England squad with Mason Mount!!

    I’ll probably get lol’ed for this, but what is so special about that pass? He was in acres of space and just had to lift it over the heads of the two defenders who were in a line with the receiving player also in acres of space. I would expect even our midfielders to make that pass more often than not.

    Ah but in the land of the blind that includes Dier in an England shirt, Foden is King!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    4-2-3-1 could only work in away games in League 1, if you had a goal scoring striker who can also hold the ball up and play in say Holmes, Fosu, and Aribo, But we had Josh Magennis who couldn't do that plus even if Ricky, Tariqe or Joe had been fit at the same time the luxury of 3 attacking midfielders who aren't great at defending would be a major issue against the better sides.
    We have the evidence that 2 strikers are mandatory in this League with both Taylor and Grant scoring the scrappy tap-ins as well as the sublime strikes.

    Phil Foden is a great young talent, who I hope isn't held back by being at a club with so many super stars.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    Exiled_Addick said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Although on the subject of Foden what a pass to get an assist and then what a goal - Get him in the bloody England squad with Mason Mount!!


    I’ll probably get lol’ed for this, but what is so special about that pass? He was in acres of space and just had to lift it over the heads of the two defenders who were in a line with the receiving player also in acres of space. I would expect even our midfielders to make that pass more often than not.
    This, good, but not sensational
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    DamoNorthStand said:

    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Foden also made the first goal as well with an equally brilliant pass. The best young talent England has had for many years.

    Add Foden and Gomez to our team that got to the World Cup semis (along with Shaw for Young and eventually Sessegnon) then we can justifiably get very excited for the next few tournaments
    I think the development of Maddison at Leicester is quite interesting too.
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  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    the obsession with oxford failing because karl is managing them is weird, as long as we beat them comfortably the 2 times we play them i don't really care, from there opening results its not like we are going to be anywhere near them.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    Personally don’t care too much but did. Take a disliking to Karl and his hobby bullshit, his tactical inflexibility, his support for Duchatelet and the manner in which he left,

    I also have one of my bosses being an oxford fan who was super smug when they got Robinson.

    So For several reasons I see why his results are followed more than say those of Bradford,
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    palarsehater said:

    the obsession with oxford failing because karl is managing them is weird, as long as we beat them comfortably the 2 times we play them i don't really care, from there opening results its not like we are going to be anywhere near them.

    I'm not particularly wanting Robinson to fail. He's a likeable enough bloke and loves his football.

    But it's his obsession with his one and only formation, lack of tactical flexibility, and the long winded way he tries to justify everything he does. And when he can justify no longer, his frustration gets the better of him - and he blames everybody else.

    And now he's no longer at Charlton, he's doing the same things at Oxford. Beyond logic.



  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    edited September 2018
    Obviously Karl had the players at MKD before promotion from League 1 to free score with that system. He lost a few players that summer after promotion. That promotion season was the season when Spurs bought Deli Alli and loaned him back for the remainder of the season. The Deli remained at Spurs and blossomed there. It shows what a big loss it was for Karl and MK. After that he didn't have the players for it and needed to adapt. It was always going to be interesting to see how he would do at another club. He came to us with an infectious enthusiasm. He steadied us for a while but when things went wrong he was stuck. And maybe from last Christmas on till his departure (Looking back now) he did lose a bit of his mojo. Now e is struggling with Oxford. His confidence is a little down. He probably needs a break from the game or go and grow again in non league or maybe be a number two to someone somewhere. When you get to know he ain't a bad bloke. But I think we are better off under Bow.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,214
    edited September 2018
    It's been a long time now since Robinson has had a good season.

    2018/19 struggling with Oxford

    2017/18 started well with Charlton but struggled then tried to get himself sacked so he could take the Oxford job where he struggled.

    2016/17. Newly relegated with MKD, struggled and was sacked. Employed at CAFC on the basis of getting promotion and had them flirting with relegation.

    2015/16 relegated below the Karel Fraeye Charlton side

    2014/15 promoted with Afobe and Alli out of league 1
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Henry Irving said:

    It's been a long time now since Robinson has had a good season.

    2018/19 struggling with Oxford

    2017/18 started well with Charlton but struggled then tried to get himself sacked so he could take the Oxford job where he struggled.

    2016/17. Newly relegated with MKD, struggled and was sacked. Employed at CAFC on the basis of getting promotion and had them flirting with relegation.

    2015/16 relegated below the Karel Fraeye Charlton side

    2014/15 promoted with Adobe and Alli out of league 1

    Was that Acrobat, Fireworks, Photoshop.... Wait it was photo shop wasn't it... He doctored the table to get promoted. FACT.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    Henry Irving said:

    It's been a long time now since Robinson has had a good season.

    2018/19 struggling with Oxford

    2017/18 started well with Charlton but struggled then tried to get himself sacked so he could take the Oxford job where he struggled.

    2016/17. Newly relegated with MKD, struggled and was sacked. Employed at CAFC on the basis of getting promotion and had them flirting with relegation.

    2015/16 relegated below the Karel Fraeye Charlton side

    2014/15 promoted with Adobe and Alli out of league 1

    all the time clubs employ him on 5 year contracts why wouldnt he stick at it
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,438
    Crap manager who spouts a lot of bullshit - will never forget the dreadful football we had to endure under his reign.

    Never found him particularly likeable as he seemed more concerned with being matey than taking responsibility for his failings.

    He reminds me of a used car salesman.

  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

    Crap manager who spouts a lot of bullshit - will never forget the dreadful football we had to endure under his reign.

    Never found him particularly likeable as he seemed more concerned with being matey than taking responsibility for his failings.

    He reminds me of a used car salesman. typical scouser :wink:

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Henry Irving said:

    It's been a long time now since Robinson has had a good season.

    2018/19 struggling with Oxford

    2017/18 started well with Charlton but struggled then tried to get himself sacked so he could take the Oxford job where he struggled.

    2016/17. Newly relegated with MKD, struggled and was sacked. Employed at CAFC on the basis of getting promotion and had them flirting with relegation.

    2015/16 relegated below the Karel Fraeye Charlton side

    2014/15 promoted with Adobe and Alli out of league 1

    In his defence, in 2015/16 MKD operated on a pretty tight budget. I bet our wage bill was massively higher than MKD's
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  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,438
    killerandflash said:

    Henry Irving said:

    It's been a long time now since Robinson has had a good season.

    2018/19 struggling with Oxford

    2017/18 started well with Charlton but struggled then tried to get himself sacked so he could take the Oxford job where he struggled.

    2016/17. Newly relegated with MKD, struggled and was sacked. Employed at CAFC on the basis of getting promotion and had them flirting with relegation.

    2015/16 relegated below the Karel Fraeye Charlton side

    2014/15 promoted with Adobe and Alli out of league 1

    In his defence, in 2015/16 MKD operated on a pretty tight budget. I bet our wage bill was massively higher than MKD's
    There is no defence for any club employing him as a manager other than madness....
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    palarsehater said:

    Henry Irving said:

    It's been a long time now since Robinson has had a good season.

    2018/19 struggling with Oxford

    2017/18 started well with Charlton but struggled then tried to get himself sacked so he could take the Oxford job where he struggled.

    2016/17. Newly relegated with MKD, struggled and was sacked. Employed at CAFC on the basis of getting promotion and had them flirting with relegation.

    2015/16 relegated below the Karel Fraeye Charlton side

    2014/15 promoted with Adobe and Alli out of league 1

    all the time clubs employ him on 5 year contracts why wouldnt he stick at it
    His last 2 deals (us and Oxford) have been 2.5 year contracts. To be honest, given how long a manager last these days and how many there are applying for each vacant job, i'm sure it won't be too long before clubs just start giving 1 or 2 year contracts.

    Unless you're appointing a world class, well sought after manager, it's beyond me why any club would go offering 3-4 year deals to managers.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,214
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    palarsehater said:

    Henry Irving said:

    It's been a long time now since Robinson has had a good season.

    2018/19 struggling with Oxford

    2017/18 started well with Charlton but struggled then tried to get himself sacked so he could take the Oxford job where he struggled.

    2016/17. Newly relegated with MKD, struggled and was sacked. Employed at CAFC on the basis of getting promotion and had them flirting with relegation.

    2015/16 relegated below the Karel Fraeye Charlton side

    2014/15 promoted with Adobe and Alli out of league 1

    all the time clubs employ him on 5 year contracts why wouldnt he stick at it
    His last 2 deals (us and Oxford) have been 2.5 year contracts. To be honest, given how long a manager last these days and how many there are applying for each vacant job, i'm sure it won't be too long before clubs just start giving 1 or 2 year contracts.

    Unless you're appointing a world class, well sought after manager, it's beyond me why any club would go offering 3-4 year deals to managers.
    Nine months for Lee Bowyer
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    Long story short.
    Robinson is a shite manager.
    Bowyer is a great manager.
    Move on people.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    edited September 2018
    I don’t hate Robinson, I just find it funny he’s continuing with the same system and still blaming others when it doesn’t work.

    He made some good signings including Bowyer but made things harder for himself by insisting we had to play one way.

    I saw a quote from him the other day talking about how it can take time to build a promotion squad. He mentioned how well we’re now doing. Nothing about Bowyer fixing the weaknesses in his squad of course. He had the option to bring in more physical/aggressive players and chose not to.

    Our football now is more entertaining. All that possession was pointless. It might look like we dominated to some but opponents were happy to sit back knowing we’d struggle to break them down.
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    Tried to play good football but in a tight system. Tbf he was very respectful about the history of the club unlike Katrien.
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961
    Limited Manager that had some passion (some may consider it fake) for the Club and seemingly stabilised some things at the Club.

    I won’t be booing him unless he becomes Millwall Manager.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    Did he actually blame the ground for their results? Top man. It’s why deep down I love him
  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,809
    edited September 2018
    I liked him. he realised the difficult constraints put on him by RD and in the end couldn't live with it. bow on the other hand is working miracles right now in the way curbs gritty and lennie did
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,775
    I liked him at first but his tactics (or lack of them) became tedious. He would never tactically change things during a game and other teams just knew what to expect. He was found out pretty quickly. I'm surprised he got promotion with MK Dons as he was with them for a few years. For us he showed minimal tactical savvy and it just got worse and worse. It was time when he went.

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