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UEFA Nations League
ValleyGary
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This has just been approved by UEFA to begin in 2018, and will replace international friendlies. There will be 4 leagues based on ranking and there will be a promotion/relegation format.
This is the first I've heard of it. Surely clubs won't be happy with more competitive football for their players?
This is the first I've heard of it. Surely clubs won't be happy with more competitive football for their players?
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Heard about this a year or so back but thought it had maybe been shelved as talk about it had gone quiet.
I think it's a good idea.0 -
I can see the logic behind the idea to spice up so called friendlies, but this is a step and a competition too far and as VG writes, it means more demands on the top players .. just a device then in an attempt to get more power, prestige and (of course) cash for UEFA. I can see it being viable for the second strata of European nations, the Austrias, Norways and Finlands but not for the super powers .. like England for example ((:>)0
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I think if the top division automatically qualifies for euros and World cup and maybe top half of the 2nd tier or something could work.
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They'd need to have a route for a nation from the third & fourth leagues to make it to those competitions too, even if it's just one "play-off" against a nation from a higher league. Otherwise there is no incentive for the minnows to bother trying to qualify for immediate tournaments.Charltonparklane said:I think if the top division automatically qualifies for euros and World cup and maybe top half of the 2nd tier or something could work.
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end of the world cup and start of a world league0
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Yh agreedCallumcafc said:
They'd need to have a route for a nation from the third & fourth leagues to make it to those competitions too, even if it's just one "play-off" against a nation from a higher league. Otherwise there is no incentive for the minnows to bother trying to qualify for immediate tournaments.Charltonparklane said:I think if the top division automatically qualifies for euros and World cup and maybe top half of the 2nd tier or something could work.
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I think this could work, but as others have said, care needs to be taken to protect the health of the top players.
Maybe it needs to come with some extra rules above and beyond 'normal' competitive international rules - maybe allowed to name 11 subs and use to 5 or 7 of them and maybe a requirement that a certain number of players in the starting 11 and on the bench are under 23 so as to force teams not to pick just the stars for every game and also encourage the development of younger players at international level.1 -
Seeding has been determined ahead of the Nations League Draw (wont be till January)
We wont be able to face France | Switzerland | Italy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_UEFA_Nations_League_A0 -
so we get 1 of
germany, portugal, spain and belgium
and 1 of
poland, iceland, crotia and holland
spain away 1st weekend please.
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Hopefully, we can avoid Belguim away because that will bring all the helmets out of the woodworkspalarsehater said:so we get 1 of
germany, portugal, spain and belgium
and 1 of
poland, iceland, crotia and holland
spain away 1st weekend please.0 -
Should have added that there is a great chance for Wales | Northern Ireland | Republic of Ireland to be together
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_UEFA_Nations_League_B0 -
germany belgium hollandSouthWest_Addicks said:
Hopefully, we can avoid Belguim away because that will bring all the helmets out of the woodworkspalarsehater said:so we get 1 of
germany, portugal, spain and belgium
and 1 of
poland, iceland, crotia and holland
spain away 1st weekend please.
would be a lot of twats i reckon0 -
England fixtures:
Spain (H) - 8 September
Croatia (A) - 12 October
Spain (A) - 15 October
Croatia (H) - 18 November0 -
and what's the point of this ? am I missing something?0
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To produce more "competitive" matches instead of having to play minnows like Lithuania, San Marino and Scotland twice in the next two years.Bedsaddick said:and what's the point of this ? am I missing something?
If we win our mini group with Spain and Croatia, I believe we automatically qualify for Euro 2020 as well as advancing to the final four with other top group winners.1 -
All a bit weird. We are in a higher level so get Spain and Croatia, really tough games when Southgate will want to be blooding new players. As will Spain and Croatia presumably
I see Scotland have Albania and Israel!0 -
Thats the point, all top teams in tougher groups.killerandflash said:All a bit weird. We are in a higher level so get Spain and Croatia, really tough games when Southgate will want to be blooding new players. As will Spain and Croatia presumably
I see Scotland have Albania and Israel!
There is relegation and promotion to I think2 -
Yeah if we finish bottom of our group we get relegated to the 'B' level with the likes of Austria, Wales, Russia and others.
Think it's trying to imitate a league structure but obviously with limited match days so has split the four tiers into mini groups of 3 or 4.0 -
To me it just complicates and distorts things, especially as some teams will take this seriously and others wont. Meanwhile Scotland have home matches against Albania and Israel to draw in the crowdspaulie8290 said:
Thats the point, all top teams in tougher groups.killerandflash said:All a bit weird. We are in a higher level so get Spain and Croatia, really tough games when Southgate will want to be blooding new players. As will Spain and Croatia presumably
I see Scotland have Albania and Israel!
There is relegation and promotion to I think1 - Sponsored links:
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So if Scotland finish above Albania and Israel in the Nations group they qualify for Euro 2020?0
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That's not completely true. Yes they've been introduced so there are more competitive matches, but they are meant to replace the meaningless friendlies, not qualifiers against minnows.Callumcafc said:
To produce more "competitive" matches instead of having to play minnows like Lithuania, San Marino and Scotland twice in the next two years.Bedsaddick said:and what's the point of this ? am I missing something?
If we win our mini group with Spain and Croatia, I believe we automatically qualify for Euro 2020 as well as advancing to the final four with other top group winners.
There will still be qualifiers for the Euro's, they just come after the Nation's league.0 -
They won’t though.se9addick said:So if Scotland finish above Albania and Israel in the Nations group they qualify for Euro 2020?
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already got tickets for Spain and Croatia at wembley, £20 each.
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No - they'll still have to go through standard Qualifying for Euro 2020 if (when) they fail to finish top two yet finish top of their Nations League Group, they'll go into a mini-tournament with the other three winners at their levelse9addick said:So if Scotland finish above Albania and Israel in the Nations group they qualify for Euro 2020?
Should they then win that Play-Off they'll Qualify for the World Cup
Will be the same across all four levels of the Nations League so England will have a second chance even if we mess up Qualifying, same with Gibraltar and San Marino etc. - They'll get smashed in Qualifying yet if they win their Nations League Group and then their mini tournament, they too will Qualifying for the Euros0 -
basically it gives the minnows d group a guaranteed slot at the euros.0
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In addition to the Nations League Finals of League A, there will be four play-offs with a similar format. Each group winner takes a spot in the semi-finals. If the group winner is already one of 20 qualified teams, rankings will be used to give the play-off spot to another team of the league. If less than four teams in the entire League remain unqualified, play-off spots for that league are given to teams of the next-lower league. This determines the four remaining qualifying spots for the European Championship (out of 24 total)0
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Yeah but some of those minnows arent really whipping boys like Azerbaijan and Macedoniapalarsehater said:basically it gives the minnows d group a guaranteed slot at the euros.
i.e. Neither will get out of their Euro Group yet doubt they'd lose by more than a goal or two
There will also be a guaranteed slot for a side from Divisions A | B | C (Although the A slot will only be available if one of the teams in the top Group havent already qualified via. the Standard Groups which should happen)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_UEFA_Nations_League#Seeding0 -
All sounds very straight forward....2
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I thought the league was seeded.killerandflash said:
To me it just complicates and distorts things, especially as some teams will take this seriously and others wont. Meanwhile Scotland have home matches against Albania and Israel to draw in the crowdspaulie8290 said:
Thats the point, all top teams in tougher groups.killerandflash said:All a bit weird. We are in a higher level so get Spain and Croatia, really tough games when Southgate will want to be blooding new players. As will Spain and Croatia presumably
I see Scotland have Albania and Israel!
There is relegation and promotion to I think
It must be annoying for Israel and Albania to be forced to play against minnows.1
