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Colombia v England - Tues 3rd July 7pm

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    https://www.givemesport.com/1346641-why-england-gave-jordan-pickford-a-different-drinks-bottle-for-colombia-shootout

    Pickford handed a different water bottle for the shootout which had all the details of which direction the Colombian players prefer to shoot.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668

    https://www.givemesport.com/1346641-why-england-gave-jordan-pickford-a-different-drinks-bottle-for-colombia-shootout

    Pickford handed a different water bottle for the shootout which had all the details of which direction the Colombian players prefer to shoot.

    Really.
    Don't you think he would have known that already.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989

    https://www.givemesport.com/1346641-why-england-gave-jordan-pickford-a-different-drinks-bottle-for-colombia-shootout

    Pickford handed a different water bottle for the shootout which had all the details of which direction the Colombian players prefer to shoot.

    Really.
    Don't you think he would have known that already.
    He did, but it was in case he forgot.
  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    Small details.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited July 2018
    What if the message on the bottle read player a) goes to the right? Whose right his or the keepers? Gotta be very careful with that tactic. :open_mouth:
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    So do The Metro have drug dealer contacts or did Drug Dealers contact The Metro.

    I am highly doubtful there is any truth in this story.

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/04/cocaine-dealers-had-a-surge-in-calls-after-last-englands-world-cup-victory-7681850/?ito=social
  • foresthillred
    foresthillred Posts: 1,436

    Jesus - what a night.

    Am over here with the wife and kids and watched the game round my Aunt and Uncles house with my two boys, cousin and uncle.

    When Colombia equalised and it went to penalties it looked like being the same old, same old so to win on penalties was something very special.

    Even better was the faces of my two boys as we drove back through Greenwich and seeing all the England fans on the streets singing and dancing outside the pubs, they had never seen anything like it.

    All I need to do now this morning is phone my Aunt and Uncle and ask them to apologise to their very religious neighbours for my screaming out “HAVE SOME OF THAT YOU FUCKING COKE SNIFFING COLOMBIA CUNTS!!!!” When Dier scored the penalty.

    Not sure the wife was too happy either.

    My kids told me off this morning for "shouting too loudly and swearing too much".
    My 13 year old daughter phoned me, as she does every night to say goodnight, just as the penalties were about to start. She was getting a bit nervous and excited as the pens went in and I heard her mum say "give me the phone now." Daughter's reply? "Fuck you mum. Fuck you!" I was trying not to laugh out loud while thinking "get in there girl!"
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    Sterling contr

    https://www.givemesport.com/1346641-why-england-gave-jordan-pickford-a-different-drinks-bottle-for-colombia-shootout

    Pickford handed a different water bottle for the shootout which had all the details of which direction the Colombian players prefer to shoot.

    I wondered why he was drinking from it while it was wrapped it in a towel.
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,588
    edited July 2018
    Croydon said:
    Yeah best he just left it if he wasn't sure.

    So do The Metro have drug dealer contacts or did Drug Dealers contact The Metro.

    I am highly doubtful there is any truth in this story.

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/04/cocaine-dealers-had-a-surge-in-calls-after-last-englands-world-cup-victory-7681850/?ito=social

    The source was probably the journo's themselves. They were having more trouble than usual getting through on the phone, so put two and two together and came up with a crap story.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017


    My 13 year old daughter phoned me, as she does every night to say goodnight, just as the penalties were about to start. She was getting a bit nervous and excited as the pens went in and I heard her mum say "give me the phone now." Daughter's reply? "Fuck you mum. Fuck you!" I was trying not to laugh out loud while thinking "get in there girl!"

    Ah love this. Havent seen my daughter for 3 weekends now, so its almost a month. Finally get to see her this weekend. Try and phone her a couple of times a week but she never answers her mobile and she texts back she's doing her homework. Its shit living away from your kids.

    Anyway...off tangent...


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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    https://www.givemesport.com/1346641-why-england-gave-jordan-pickford-a-different-drinks-bottle-for-colombia-shootout

    Pickford handed a different water bottle for the shootout which had all the details of which direction the Colombian players prefer to shoot.

    They should give Sterling one with directions to the airport.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Quite a clever little ploy that. Not because he dived correctly every time, but now Swedish players will be having more of a think about what they are gonna do if it goes penalty’s and it just puts a bit of doubt in their heads.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    In a way I'm surprised its allowed

    In the same thought though you have to wonder why they all dont do it
  • Quite a clever little ploy that. Not because he dived correctly every time, but now Swedish players will be having more of a think about what they are gonna do if it goes penalty’s and it just puts a bit of doubt in their heads.

    He didn't though. He guessed wrong for both Falcao and Muriel.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728

    Quite a clever little ploy that. Not because he dived correctly every time, but now Swedish players will be having more of a think about what they are gonna do if it goes penalty’s and it just puts a bit of doubt in their heads.

    Yes, when you get outside the seasoned penalty takers you get them thinking - does he know where I am putting it - shall I put it somewhere else? That is exactly what you want.

    It does remind me of a quote from Buffon when Italy knocked us out of the Euros on penalties a few years back. He was told that Hart was up all night studying where the Italians preferred to put their penalties - he said, Really, I was up all night watching porn!

    But I am more in Hart's camp on this. If it does nothing else, the work that is done as a team on penalties gives a re-assurance and confidence that is important!
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126

    Quite a clever little ploy that. Not because he dived correctly every time, but now Swedish players will be having more of a think about what they are gonna do if it goes penalty’s and it just puts a bit of doubt in their heads.

    He didn't though. He guessed wrong for both Falcao and Muriel.
    Pickford has admitted Falcao surprised him but no mention of Muriel, where he did go the wrong way.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975

    Quite a clever little ploy that. Not because he dived correctly every time, but now Swedish players will be having more of a think about what they are gonna do if it goes penalty’s and it just puts a bit of doubt in their heads.

    He didn't though. He guessed wrong for both Falcao and Muriel.
    Yeah sorry thats what i meant.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    If I was Pickford, I'd go the wrong way for the good penalty takers as long as they know I have studied them.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Pickford goes so early on the one he saves - brilliant and uber confident. Love it.

  • Colombian keeper goes the right way on everyone there i think
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  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    Indeed. I was thinking that every penalty taker will now have to choose another finish and practice that to death in the next three days. The Swedes will plan for us doing the same that we did against the Colombians and so we will have to surprise them. For instance, Harry Kane went low left rather than his high left usual finish - I would put money on him not doing the same again in the event of another penalty shootout (if I could put money on him going high left again, then I would). Being predictable in a penalty shootout is dicing with death from now on.

    As you said, Jessie, it's mind-games from here on in and it will be interesting to see how it all plays out!
  • Indeed. I was thinking that every penalty taker will now have to choose another finish and practice that to death in the next three days. The Swedes will plan for us doing the same that we did against the Colombians and so we will have to surprise them. For instance, Harry Kane went low left rather than his high left usual finish - I would put money on him not doing the same again in the event of another penalty shootout (if I could put money on him going high left again, then I would). Being predictable in a penalty shootout is dicing with death from now on.

    As you said, Jessie, it's mind-games from here on in and it will be interesting to see how it all plays out!

    Kane hit his in-game penalty v Colombia right down the middle so the Swedish keeper won't know what to do.
    To be honest if you hit your penalty well like Kane, Rashford and Trippier then the keeper's got no chance even if he does go the right way.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975

    Indeed. I was thinking that every penalty taker will now have to choose another finish and practice that to death in the next three days. The Swedes will plan for us doing the same that we did against the Colombians and so we will have to surprise them. For instance, Harry Kane went low left rather than his high left usual finish - I would put money on him not doing the same again in the event of another penalty shootout (if I could put money on him going high left again, then I would). Being predictable in a penalty shootout is dicing with death from now on.

    As you said, Jessie, it's mind-games from here on in and it will be interesting to see how it all plays out!

    Kane hit his in-game penalty v Colombia right down the middle so the Swedish keeper won't know what to do.
    To be honest if you hit your penalty well like Kane, Rashford and Trippier then the keeper's got no chance even if he does go the right way.
    World Cup penalties that are placed in the upper third of the goal have a 100% success rate
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,947

    Indeed. I was thinking that every penalty taker will now have to choose another finish and practice that to death in the next three days. The Swedes will plan for us doing the same that we did against the Colombians and so we will have to surprise them. For instance, Harry Kane went low left rather than his high left usual finish - I would put money on him not doing the same again in the event of another penalty shootout (if I could put money on him going high left again, then I would). Being predictable in a penalty shootout is dicing with death from now on.

    As you said, Jessie, it's mind-games from here on in and it will be interesting to see how it all plays out!

    Kane hit his in-game penalty v Colombia right down the middle so the Swedish keeper won't know what to do.
    To be honest if you hit your penalty well like Kane, Rashford and Trippier then the keeper's got no chance even if he does go the right way.
    World Cup penalties that are placed in the upper third of the goal have a 100% success rate
    But that doesn't count those who try that but hit the bar or blaze it over.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    If I was Pickford, I'd go the wrong way for the good penalty takers as long as they know I have studied them.

    Then maybe if the penalty takers think that Pickford would go the other way because he thinks they would change their usual way, they would stick to their usual way... It's like Game Theory/Prisoner's dilemma, that kind of stuff, and there will be no end :joy:
    then you look at their body language, their kicking might be slower etc.. Just by making them take a moment to second guess themselves puts you at the advantage if you're the keeper
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017

    ...Harry Kane went low left rather than his high left usual finish...

    Rarely puts it high at Spurs. Usually puts them in either corner, mainly to keeper's right every time.
    He rarely goes down the middle. The last time before the Columbia game was against Liverpool at Anfield and he hit it straight at Karius in the 89th minute!

  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    Apparently 200,00 people have signed a petition demanding a replay https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/05/colombia-dirtiest-team-ive-ever-played-against-john-stones

    What planet are these people on, I can just about cope with the fact that they used dark arts to try to win a game but to not even accept that they have been beaten leaves me speechless.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,961
    20,000 out of 49,000,000 is 0.04%
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited July 2018
    Haha was just about to post the same petition. Proper weirdos... maybe if it's replayed they have a couple of players sent off this time.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Maradona forced to apologise for comments:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44729969