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Colombia v England - Tues 3rd July 7pm

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  • I seemed to be the only person who noticed Vardy was having problems with his groin at the final whistle (confirmed he had injection after the match on news) and assumed that was the case when Jamie who has the best penalty taking record in this squad decided not to take part.

    Harry Kane is number 1 penalty taker but Vardy must be number 2 for England.

    My girlfriend thought he had a boner.
    That was the other alternative !
  • Pickford doesn't look like a real goalkeeper, his positioning is all over the shop, he looks small (though apparently 6' 1") and generally unathletic.

    We all got carried away after spanking a poor Panama, but my god that Belgium game was a return to business as usual for England playing tournament football. Like Charlton in recent years, no strength in depth, and probably only Kane is truly world class.

    I know I predicted failure to get out of the group, but I can't see a win against Colombia.

    Fancy a little bet for The Upbeats? I've got a tenner that says we'll win. @EveshamAddick
    Yes, why not....
    The Upbeats will be happy with their winnings @EveshamAddick
    Done, and not daring to predict what might happen against Sweden!!
  • Watching this just makes you realise how many Colombians were in that stadium last night.
    Also love the fact they put 'it's coming home' literally as soon as the goal went in.

    Imagine what it will be like if we play Russia in the semi’s!!
  • I love Charlton but nothing comes even remotely close to England going places in a major tournament

    This 100%
  • Love This! (obviously fast forward to the goals. Columbians giving it big time after they equalised)

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=9JLOPFshmxc

    Fuck he’s annoying but it demonstrates

    1. That the make up of England's support is alien compared to most away games.
    2. The segregation is non-existent.
    3. If we meet Russia in the semi and it’s like that it will be eventful.
  • https://www.givemesport.com/1346641-why-england-gave-jordan-pickford-a-different-drinks-bottle-for-colombia-shootout

    Pickford handed a different water bottle for the shootout which had all the details of which direction the Colombian players prefer to shoot.

    Really.
    Don't you think he would have known that already.
  • Small details.
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  • So do The Metro have drug dealer contacts or did Drug Dealers contact The Metro.

    I am highly doubtful there is any truth in this story.

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/04/cocaine-dealers-had-a-surge-in-calls-after-last-englands-world-cup-victory-7681850/?ito=social
  • Sterling contr

    https://www.givemesport.com/1346641-why-england-gave-jordan-pickford-a-different-drinks-bottle-for-colombia-shootout

    Pickford handed a different water bottle for the shootout which had all the details of which direction the Colombian players prefer to shoot.

    I wondered why he was drinking from it while it was wrapped it in a towel.
  • edited July 2018
    Croydon said:
    Yeah best he just left it if he wasn't sure.

    So do The Metro have drug dealer contacts or did Drug Dealers contact The Metro.

    I am highly doubtful there is any truth in this story.

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/04/cocaine-dealers-had-a-surge-in-calls-after-last-englands-world-cup-victory-7681850/?ito=social

    The source was probably the journo's themselves. They were having more trouble than usual getting through on the phone, so put two and two together and came up with a crap story.

  • My 13 year old daughter phoned me, as she does every night to say goodnight, just as the penalties were about to start. She was getting a bit nervous and excited as the pens went in and I heard her mum say "give me the phone now." Daughter's reply? "Fuck you mum. Fuck you!" I was trying not to laugh out loud while thinking "get in there girl!"

    Ah love this. Havent seen my daughter for 3 weekends now, so its almost a month. Finally get to see her this weekend. Try and phone her a couple of times a week but she never answers her mobile and she texts back she's doing her homework. Its shit living away from your kids.

    Anyway...off tangent...


  • https://www.givemesport.com/1346641-why-england-gave-jordan-pickford-a-different-drinks-bottle-for-colombia-shootout

    Pickford handed a different water bottle for the shootout which had all the details of which direction the Colombian players prefer to shoot.

    They should give Sterling one with directions to the airport.
  • In a way I'm surprised its allowed

    In the same thought though you have to wonder why they all dont do it
  • Quite a clever little ploy that. Not because he dived correctly every time, but now Swedish players will be having more of a think about what they are gonna do if it goes penalty’s and it just puts a bit of doubt in their heads.

    He didn't though. He guessed wrong for both Falcao and Muriel.
  • Quite a clever little ploy that. Not because he dived correctly every time, but now Swedish players will be having more of a think about what they are gonna do if it goes penalty’s and it just puts a bit of doubt in their heads.

    Yes, when you get outside the seasoned penalty takers you get them thinking - does he know where I am putting it - shall I put it somewhere else? That is exactly what you want.

    It does remind me of a quote from Buffon when Italy knocked us out of the Euros on penalties a few years back. He was told that Hart was up all night studying where the Italians preferred to put their penalties - he said, Really, I was up all night watching porn!

    But I am more in Hart's camp on this. If it does nothing else, the work that is done as a team on penalties gives a re-assurance and confidence that is important!
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  • Quite a clever little ploy that. Not because he dived correctly every time, but now Swedish players will be having more of a think about what they are gonna do if it goes penalty’s and it just puts a bit of doubt in their heads.

    He didn't though. He guessed wrong for both Falcao and Muriel.
    Pickford has admitted Falcao surprised him but no mention of Muriel, where he did go the wrong way.
  • Quite a clever little ploy that. Not because he dived correctly every time, but now Swedish players will be having more of a think about what they are gonna do if it goes penalty’s and it just puts a bit of doubt in their heads.

    He didn't though. He guessed wrong for both Falcao and Muriel.
    Yeah sorry thats what i meant.
  • If I was Pickford, I'd go the wrong way for the good penalty takers as long as they know I have studied them.
  • Pickford goes so early on the one he saves - brilliant and uber confident. Love it.

  • Colombian keeper goes the right way on everyone there i think
  • If I was Pickford, I'd go the wrong way for the good penalty takers as long as they know I have studied them.

    Then maybe if the penalty takers think that Pickford would go the other way because he thinks they would change their usual way, they would stick to their usual way... It's like Game Theory/Prisoner's dilemma, that kind of stuff, and there will be no end :joy:
  • Indeed. I was thinking that every penalty taker will now have to choose another finish and practice that to death in the next three days. The Swedes will plan for us doing the same that we did against the Colombians and so we will have to surprise them. For instance, Harry Kane went low left rather than his high left usual finish - I would put money on him not doing the same again in the event of another penalty shootout (if I could put money on him going high left again, then I would). Being predictable in a penalty shootout is dicing with death from now on.

    As you said, Jessie, it's mind-games from here on in and it will be interesting to see how it all plays out!
  • Indeed. I was thinking that every penalty taker will now have to choose another finish and practice that to death in the next three days. The Swedes will plan for us doing the same that we did against the Colombians and so we will have to surprise them. For instance, Harry Kane went low left rather than his high left usual finish - I would put money on him not doing the same again in the event of another penalty shootout (if I could put money on him going high left again, then I would). Being predictable in a penalty shootout is dicing with death from now on.

    As you said, Jessie, it's mind-games from here on in and it will be interesting to see how it all plays out!

    Kane hit his in-game penalty v Colombia right down the middle so the Swedish keeper won't know what to do.
    To be honest if you hit your penalty well like Kane, Rashford and Trippier then the keeper's got no chance even if he does go the right way.
  • Indeed. I was thinking that every penalty taker will now have to choose another finish and practice that to death in the next three days. The Swedes will plan for us doing the same that we did against the Colombians and so we will have to surprise them. For instance, Harry Kane went low left rather than his high left usual finish - I would put money on him not doing the same again in the event of another penalty shootout (if I could put money on him going high left again, then I would). Being predictable in a penalty shootout is dicing with death from now on.

    As you said, Jessie, it's mind-games from here on in and it will be interesting to see how it all plays out!

    Kane hit his in-game penalty v Colombia right down the middle so the Swedish keeper won't know what to do.
    To be honest if you hit your penalty well like Kane, Rashford and Trippier then the keeper's got no chance even if he does go the right way.
    World Cup penalties that are placed in the upper third of the goal have a 100% success rate
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