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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,309
    900
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,309
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  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,423
    cfgs said:

    I wonder how many season ticket purchasers are now starting to regret it?

    None I would assume. Think they go regardless for the day out, not for whats on the pitch etc.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    robroy said:

    cfgs said:

    I wonder how many season ticket purchasers are now starting to regret it?

    None I would assume. Think they go regardless for the day out, not for whats on the pitch etc.
    I was going to say, it can’t be for the football!!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,734
    900!!!
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    ok ok here are my thoughts on this endless bollox. Just to be clear i have no one on the end of a phone , i dont know anyone "involved" i havent had a beer with someoneinvolved,i dont write for a paper,or a fan mag. If Tom from Eltham is reading i still dont know who NLA is !!

    Weeks ago we were told that the EFL had a couple of queries on the good people doc--we were told its minor shit but also told that they had concerns over 2 "new investors. Suddenly SILENCE !

    Then Konsa gets sold and Bowyer is appointed (good).

    To me it looks like the Aussies are short of the cash as the 2 investors the EFL had queries over have fecked off and now they are short of the asking price !---------if true that in itself is alarming----SHORT OF THE ASKING PRICE.

    Much as i think RD is a twonk of the highest order to me it explains him being here---selling Konsa to pay for running costs when it was expected the Aussies would be in control and having to appoint Bowyer as we are moving to the new season. The "threat" of selling players is real if they dont come back soon as he didnt expect to have to budget for more losses.

    The Aussies might be still here but they aint got the money ,if they had it would have been done and RD would be in Belgium---- dont make me laugh re it happening tomorrow shit.





  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,193
    Even a thread of a 1,000 pages starts with a single post.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    Sun and alcohol @Redhenry is not a good combination however when we beat the Aussies at cricket it's one of the exceptions to the rule :wink: .
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    Love all the people saying the aussies have no money. How on earth do you know? Makes more sense that they just don't want to pay way over the top for something. Just because your rich doesn't mean you happily pay 50K for a 20K car does it?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited June 2018

    Cafc43v3r said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    lolwray said:

    i sometimes honestly think it might be better for RD to withdraw his backing and send us into admin

    He can't, he is the sole creditor. He could stop trading and liquidate the assets, that would forfeit the golden share and significantly reduce the value. No one would buy the valley without a football team, all the players would be free to leave as their contracts would be void. Not sure how much the training ground is worth but I doubt you could sell it for development.
    Not quite. Former directors’ loans are the first charge on the assets.
    Is it all assets? I thought it was the valley. However I think you agree on the point if not the detail?
    Is all assets, I believe, but I agree there’s no point in him putting the business into administration.
    @Cafc43v3r A debenture (former directors' charges) attaches all fixed and floating assets.
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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Redhenry said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Redhenry said:

    They didn't come for the Vol-au-vents! :smiley:

    They may well have looked at half a dozen clubs. If I wanted to buy a Chinese club I doubt I'd only pick one to look at. It's important to get these facts right ;-)
    really?
    Sorry, that didn't come across right. But would love to know if they put in a concrete bid.
  • Love all the people saying the aussies have no money. How on earth do you know? Makes more sense that they just don't want to pay way over the top for something. Just because your rich doesn't mean you happily pay 50K for a 20K car does it?

    Exactly. It appears a Saudi prince pulled out of the bidding because the price was ridiculous. Does that mean he didn’t have the money?

    I assume Roly has an idea who does have the money, as he wouldn’t let a reported 40.5m bid walk away without knowing the Aussies would pay more AND had the money. If he did, then once again, he is the underlying problem.
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    Death by a thousand nails, courtesy of Roland.
  • irudd123
    irudd123 Posts: 115
    Not kicked off in Moscow yet (at time of typing). Could still go through before start of the World Cup....
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    Love all the people saying the aussies have no money. How on earth do you know? Makes more sense that they just don't want to pay way over the top for something. Just because your rich doesn't mean you happily pay 50K for a 20K car does it?

    Exactly. It appears a Saudi prince pulled out of the bidding because the price was ridiculous. Does that mean he didn’t have the money?

    I assume Roly has an idea who does have the money, as he wouldn’t let a reported 40.5m bid walk away without knowing the Aussies would pay more AND had the money. If he did, then once again, he is the underlying problem.
    I think there's a very real possibility that the more the Aussies understand about the club, the less they believe it is worth. I don't take them for mugs, and I think they may have realised Roly is taking them for a ride. I'm with Airman when he says Roly has massively over valued the club.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    Let us forget the "if not this week, then next week" and change it to "if not this season, then next season"
  • Love all the people saying the aussies have no money. How on earth do you know? Makes more sense that they just don't want to pay way over the top for something. Just because your rich doesn't mean you happily pay 50K for a 20K car does it?

    How do you know the aussies do have the money ha e they shown it too you have you seen it if so where

    I stick to my original stance the Aussies didn’t not have the money once the Greek walked


    The aussies had to have the final sign off by two investors

    The EFL highlighted that there were two investors with other football interests


    They go


    The aussies have not got the money again


    End of


    Muir has money no doubt but does he want to stump up the 15 mil that is now led to believe to short of the asking price

    Months ago I said it matters not what any of us think the asking price should be or what the Value of the club is from a selling point

    It matters what RD wants

    He has been offered in excess of 40 mil so that is the value of the club £40.5 mil

    The aussies beat that offer or matched it I don’t know what

    Now for you offer the money and it’s agreed then you’d buy the club once the EFL process is complete

    EFL is complete and yet we will get spill and spin from all sides over whose fault it is that it’s not completed

    If there were these issues with things previous to RD then why go to EFL before they were resolved

    Reason being they were not an issue for anyone at that point

    The EFL tell the aussies it’s green to go but these two can’t be involved

    RD deadline is tomorrow or he needs to plan for season ahead without a sale

    Aussies as of yet have not found investors to cover short Fall so deal in jeopardy


    That’s my take on it





  • Depressingly, NLA's analysis is probably pretty accurate.

    What I don't understand is why doesn't Muir front the money required now, and then look for additional investors once he owns the club? Why does he have to find them in advance?
  • 3blokes
    3blokes Posts: 4,610
    Even the most optimistic optimist of a Charlton fan straight from the land of optimistic Optimism couldn’t help but feel depressed over this interminable never ending takeover saga, together with other club related news hitting the headlines.
    It just goes on and on.
    Fucking unbelievable, Jeff.
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  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    edited June 2018
    Fuck all this Roland has over valued the club

    The bloke is a **** proper but


    It’s his money he has spent it’s his right to value it at what he wants and we know the Saudi bid was 40.5 mil now say what you want there’s the value right there

    I don’t think the club is worth that but my thoughts don’t matter

    Don’t buy all this bullshit from the Aussies I never have

    If you want to buy us then pay the money if you don’t then fuck off

    The more people that fuck off the cheaper his value is but if you have agreed a price and you’ve gone to EFL and it looks like it’s happening and doesn’t the only reason is the buyer has pulled

    RD ain’t put the price up that’s not been mentioned in any leak so it’s not happened

    Fact is you wanted to buy us you thought you could and now you won’t or can’t do just fuck off
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,779
    Is one of @Redhenry lot sitting alongside Putin at this evening game?
  • Mal
    Mal Posts: 616
    Rick Everitt


    @airmanbrown
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    #cafc takeover ups and downs continue. Positive news today is that the two sides are talking face to face. Sheer number of investors doing paperwork on the Aussie side seems to have caused delays, leading Duchatelet to lose patience.
  • A glimmer of hope from @Airman Brown

    #cafc takeover ups and downs continue. Positive news today is that the two sides are talking face to face. Sheer number of investors doing paperwork on the Aussie side seems to have caused delays, leading Duchatelet to lose patience.

    — Rick Everitt (@airmanbrown) June 14, 2018


    Stalling Aussie tactic whilst they try to raise the gap in funding caused by the EFL findings I’d lose Paitence too and it doesn’t help the playing side this delay does it yet the Aussies walk on water
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Charlton FC on the stock market once sold.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    "sheer number of investors" Certainly backs up the fact Muir is not spending his own money.

    Sounds like he is selling lottery tickets to raise the funds, I don't like it one bit.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    Fuck all this Roland has over valued the club

    The bloke is a cunt proper but

    It’s his money he has spent it’s his right to value it at what he wants and we know the Saudi bid was 40.5 mil now say what you want there’s the value right there

    I don’t think the club is worth that but my thoughts don’t matter

    Don’t buy all this bullshit from the Aussies I never have

    If you want to buy us then pay the money if you don’t then fuck off

    The more people that fuck off the cheaper his value is but if you have agreed a price and you’ve gone to EFL and it looks like it’s happening and doesn’t the only reason is the buyer has pulled

    RD ain’t put the price up that’s not been mentioned in any leak so it’s not happened

    Fact is you wanted to buy us you thought you could and now you won’t or can’t do just fuck off

    Fact is you don't know anything for sure, no one really does, including your source. Let's see how it plays out, rather than telling our potential new owners to 'fuck off'.

    Btw when was the Saudi bid? Values go up and down.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,722
    edited June 2018

    A glimmer of hope from @Airman Brown

    #cafc takeover ups and downs continue. Positive news today is that the two sides are talking face to face. Sheer number of investors doing paperwork on the Aussie side seems to have caused delays, leading Duchatelet to lose patience.

    — Rick Everitt (@airmanbrown) June 14, 2018

    Stalling Aussie tactic whilst they try to raise the gap in funding caused by the EFL findings I’d lose Paitence too and it doesn’t help the playing side this delay does it yet the Aussies walk on water
    Why do they need to stall if RD wants to sell and has no one else willing and able to buy?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816

    Love all the people saying the aussies have no money. How on earth do you know? Makes more sense that they just don't want to pay way over the top for something. Just because your rich doesn't mean you happily pay 50K for a 20K car does it?

    But that's not how sales usually work

    A business is for sale at a certain price, and you either accept the figure or reject it. You don't accept the price then try and change it 3 months later.
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