ok ok here are my thoughts on this endless bollox. Just to be clear i have no one on the end of a phone , i dont know anyone "involved" i havent had a beer with someoneinvolved,i dont write for a paper,or a fan mag. If Tom from Eltham is reading i still dont know who NLA is !!
Weeks ago we were told that the EFL had a couple of queries on the good people doc--we were told its minor shit but also told that they had concerns over 2 "new investors. Suddenly SILENCE !
Then Konsa gets sold and Bowyer is appointed (good).
To me it looks like the Aussies are short of the cash as the 2 investors the EFL had queries over have fecked off and now they are short of the asking price !---------if true that in itself is alarming----SHORT OF THE ASKING PRICE.
Much as i think RD is a twonk of the highest order to me it explains him being here---selling Konsa to pay for running costs when it was expected the Aussies would be in control and having to appoint Bowyer as we are moving to the new season. The "threat" of selling players is real if they dont come back soon as he didnt expect to have to budget for more losses.
The Aussies might be still here but they aint got the money ,if they had it would have been done and RD would be in Belgium---- dont make me laugh re it happening tomorrow shit.
Love all the people saying the aussies have no money. How on earth do you know? Makes more sense that they just don't want to pay way over the top for something. Just because your rich doesn't mean you happily pay 50K for a 20K car does it?
i sometimes honestly think it might be better for RD to withdraw his backing and send us into admin
He can't, he is the sole creditor. He could stop trading and liquidate the assets, that would forfeit the golden share and significantly reduce the value. No one would buy the valley without a football team, all the players would be free to leave as their contracts would be void. Not sure how much the training ground is worth but I doubt you could sell it for development.
Not quite. Former directors’ loans are the first charge on the assets.
Is it all assets? I thought it was the valley. However I think you agree on the point if not the detail?
Is all assets, I believe, but I agree there’s no point in him putting the business into administration.
@Cafc43v3r A debenture (former directors' charges) attaches all fixed and floating assets.
They may well have looked at half a dozen clubs. If I wanted to buy a Chinese club I doubt I'd only pick one to look at. It's important to get these facts right ;-)
really?
Sorry, that didn't come across right. But would love to know if they put in a concrete bid.
Love all the people saying the aussies have no money. How on earth do you know? Makes more sense that they just don't want to pay way over the top for something. Just because your rich doesn't mean you happily pay 50K for a 20K car does it?
Exactly. It appears a Saudi prince pulled out of the bidding because the price was ridiculous. Does that mean he didn’t have the money?
I assume Roly has an idea who does have the money, as he wouldn’t let a reported 40.5m bid walk away without knowing the Aussies would pay more AND had the money. If he did, then once again, he is the underlying problem.
Love all the people saying the aussies have no money. How on earth do you know? Makes more sense that they just don't want to pay way over the top for something. Just because your rich doesn't mean you happily pay 50K for a 20K car does it?
Exactly. It appears a Saudi prince pulled out of the bidding because the price was ridiculous. Does that mean he didn’t have the money?
I assume Roly has an idea who does have the money, as he wouldn’t let a reported 40.5m bid walk away without knowing the Aussies would pay more AND had the money. If he did, then once again, he is the underlying problem.
I think there's a very real possibility that the more the Aussies understand about the club, the less they believe it is worth. I don't take them for mugs, and I think they may have realised Roly is taking them for a ride. I'm with Airman when he says Roly has massively over valued the club.
Love all the people saying the aussies have no money. How on earth do you know? Makes more sense that they just don't want to pay way over the top for something. Just because your rich doesn't mean you happily pay 50K for a 20K car does it?
How do you know the aussies do have the money ha e they shown it too you have you seen it if so where
I stick to my original stance the Aussies didn’t not have the money once the Greek walked
The aussies had to have the final sign off by two investors
The EFL highlighted that there were two investors with other football interests
They go
The aussies have not got the money again
End of
Muir has money no doubt but does he want to stump up the 15 mil that is now led to believe to short of the asking price
Months ago I said it matters not what any of us think the asking price should be or what the Value of the club is from a selling point
It matters what RD wants
He has been offered in excess of 40 mil so that is the value of the club £40.5 mil
The aussies beat that offer or matched it I don’t know what
Now for you offer the money and it’s agreed then you’d buy the club once the EFL process is complete
EFL is complete and yet we will get spill and spin from all sides over whose fault it is that it’s not completed
If there were these issues with things previous to RD then why go to EFL before they were resolved
Reason being they were not an issue for anyone at that point
The EFL tell the aussies it’s green to go but these two can’t be involved
RD deadline is tomorrow or he needs to plan for season ahead without a sale
Aussies as of yet have not found investors to cover short Fall so deal in jeopardy
Depressingly, NLA's analysis is probably pretty accurate.
What I don't understand is why doesn't Muir front the money required now, and then look for additional investors once he owns the club? Why does he have to find them in advance?
Even the most optimistic optimist of a Charlton fan straight from the land of optimistic Optimism couldn’t help but feel depressed over this interminable never ending takeover saga, together with other club related news hitting the headlines. It just goes on and on. Fucking unbelievable, Jeff.
It’s his money he has spent it’s his right to value it at what he wants and we know the Saudi bid was 40.5 mil now say what you want there’s the value right there
I don’t think the club is worth that but my thoughts don’t matter
Don’t buy all this bullshit from the Aussies I never have
If you want to buy us then pay the money if you don’t then fuck off
The more people that fuck off the cheaper his value is but if you have agreed a price and you’ve gone to EFL and it looks like it’s happening and doesn’t the only reason is the buyer has pulled
RD ain’t put the price up that’s not been mentioned in any leak so it’s not happened
Fact is you wanted to buy us you thought you could and now you won’t or can’t do just fuck off
#cafc takeover ups and downs continue. Positive news today is that the two sides are talking face to face. Sheer number of investors doing paperwork on the Aussie side seems to have caused delays, leading Duchatelet to lose patience.
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Ffs, when will it end?!?!
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Weeks ago we were told that the EFL had a couple of queries on the good people doc--we were told its minor shit but also told that they had concerns over 2 "new investors. Suddenly SILENCE !
Then Konsa gets sold and Bowyer is appointed (good).
To me it looks like the Aussies are short of the cash as the 2 investors the EFL had queries over have fecked off and now they are short of the asking price !---------if true that in itself is alarming----SHORT OF THE ASKING PRICE.
Much as i think RD is a twonk of the highest order to me it explains him being here---selling Konsa to pay for running costs when it was expected the Aussies would be in control and having to appoint Bowyer as we are moving to the new season. The "threat" of selling players is real if they dont come back soon as he didnt expect to have to budget for more losses.
The Aussies might be still here but they aint got the money ,if they had it would have been done and RD would be in Belgium---- dont make me laugh re it happening tomorrow shit.
I assume Roly has an idea who does have the money, as he wouldn’t let a reported 40.5m bid walk away without knowing the Aussies would pay more AND had the money. If he did, then once again, he is the underlying problem.
I stick to my original stance the Aussies didn’t not have the money once the Greek walked
The aussies had to have the final sign off by two investors
The EFL highlighted that there were two investors with other football interests
They go
The aussies have not got the money again
End of
Muir has money no doubt but does he want to stump up the 15 mil that is now led to believe to short of the asking price
Months ago I said it matters not what any of us think the asking price should be or what the Value of the club is from a selling point
It matters what RD wants
He has been offered in excess of 40 mil so that is the value of the club £40.5 mil
The aussies beat that offer or matched it I don’t know what
Now for you offer the money and it’s agreed then you’d buy the club once the EFL process is complete
EFL is complete and yet we will get spill and spin from all sides over whose fault it is that it’s not completed
If there were these issues with things previous to RD then why go to EFL before they were resolved
Reason being they were not an issue for anyone at that point
The EFL tell the aussies it’s green to go but these two can’t be involved
RD deadline is tomorrow or he needs to plan for season ahead without a sale
Aussies as of yet have not found investors to cover short Fall so deal in jeopardy
That’s my take on it
What I don't understand is why doesn't Muir front the money required now, and then look for additional investors once he owns the club? Why does he have to find them in advance?
It just goes on and on.
Fucking unbelievable, Jeff.
The bloke is a **** proper but
It’s his money he has spent it’s his right to value it at what he wants and we know the Saudi bid was 40.5 mil now say what you want there’s the value right there
I don’t think the club is worth that but my thoughts don’t matter
Don’t buy all this bullshit from the Aussies I never have
If you want to buy us then pay the money if you don’t then fuck off
The more people that fuck off the cheaper his value is but if you have agreed a price and you’ve gone to EFL and it looks like it’s happening and doesn’t the only reason is the buyer has pulled
RD ain’t put the price up that’s not been mentioned in any leak so it’s not happened
Fact is you wanted to buy us you thought you could and now you won’t or can’t do just fuck off