IS members want their British citizenship back
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This. Also John Cantlie. Let the syrians sort this out, Why waste tax payers money on these two terrorist scum. How would you feel if your loved one had been killed serving our country by the IS? Oh yeah bring them back, let's put them in a state prison where they are kept warm and fed for a few years. Whilst victims families pay for the privileges.Addickted said:
Tough shit. No one forced them to go there and fight.TellyTubby said:
Syria has little in the way of a legal process just now.ShootersHillGuru said:1. Reinstate their British citizenship.
2. Put them on trail in a British Courtroom judged by their peers.
3. If they are found guilty then sentence them according to the law.
That’s how the law works in a democracy. I don’t see a problem with it at all.
Let whatever legal process there is left in Syria go through it's course and punish them by Syrian laws.
Did humanitarian aid workers Alan Henning and David Haines, both UK citizens helping locals caught up in this jihad, get a fair trial before they were beheaded by these scum? And it was these scum who did it by their own admission - along with 25 other Western hostages.
I personally would want them to be tortured for as long as humanly possible and send them videos to there jihadi brothers.0 -
If that don’t work make them watch an omnibus of post match interviews.mistrollingin said:Make them go and watch Oxford United every week.
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The problem with all this “tough shit” “bang em about a bit” attitude is that it doesn’t take account of what actual processes there are for the authorities to work with.
The reason this country and other democracies like it will always be better than the hate and fear filled dictatorships around the world is just because we have laws and processes and we don’t flout those laws and processes whenever it suits.
These two pieces of scum are beyond contempt but they must face due process under the law.11 -
Which is exactly why we should let the syrians sort this oneShootersHillGuru said:The problem with all this “tough shit” “bang em about a bit” attitude is that it doesn’t take account of what actual processes there are for the authorities to work with.
The reason this country and other democracies like it will always be better than the hate and fear filled dictatorships around the world is just because we have laws and processes and we don’t flout those laws and processes whenever it suits.
These two pieces of scum are beyond contempt but they must face due process under the law.4 -
If they face the law in this country they will spend the rest of their lives in prison at the taxpayer 's expense and probably radicalise God knows how many people.ShootersHillGuru said:The problem with all this “tough shit” “bang em about a bit” attitude is that it doesn’t take account of what actual processes there are for the authorities to work with.
The reason this country and other democracies like it will always be better than the hate and fear filled dictatorships around the world is just because we have laws and processes and we don’t flout those laws and processes whenever it suits.
These two pieces of scum are beyond contempt but they must face due process under the law.
Leave em where they are.8 -
For me they gave up their citizenship when they left and decided to fight for IS. They had all the bollocks in the world when they held some stronghold with the rest of their scumhood, but now they’ve been caught they want to whinge and bitch about due process, law and a fair trial. All values they turned their back on when they left here. They’re fucking scum and if being caught and trialled and facing torture is as result of losing their British citizenship, so be it. I’m pretty sure they weren’t giving a second thought to all those innocents that died at theirs and IS’ hands when they shouting allah with their fellow cave dwellers, why the should British values and our way of life come to their rescue in any way shape or form? They turned their backs on it, we should respond in kind21
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Will they even spend life in prison? What is a life term in the UK? What charges would they be accounted for?blackpool72 said:
If they face the law in this country they will spend the rest of their lives in prison at the taxpayer 's expense and probably radicalise God knows how many people.ShootersHillGuru said:The problem with all this “tough shit” “bang em about a bit” attitude is that it doesn’t take account of what actual processes there are for the authorities to work with.
The reason this country and other democracies like it will always be better than the hate and fear filled dictatorships around the world is just because we have laws and processes and we don’t flout those laws and processes whenever it suits.
These two pieces of scum are beyond contempt but they must face due process under the law.
Leave em where they are.
You know there's going to be some tools protesting there rights outside court etc.
As we say leave them in Syria.0 -
If they get locked up in a British prison, they've been let off the hook as far as I'm concerned. From reeking havoc in a lawless war zone and getting up to who knows what, they get a fair trial in the UK where the worst that can happen is that they get locked up for a few years in a relatively cushty prison, at the cost of the British tax payer (£40k per year, per prisoner ain't it?)ShootersHillGuru said:The problem with all this “tough shit” “bang em about a bit” attitude is that it doesn’t take account of what actual processes there are for the authorities to work with.
The reason this country and other democracies like it will always be better than the hate and fear filled dictatorships around the world is just because we have laws and processes and we don’t flout those laws and processes whenever it suits.
These two pieces of scum are beyond contempt but they must face due process under the law.2 -
I’m normally of the wishy-washy persuasion. But in this case, f**k ‘em.5
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If under international law they can be left where they are then that suits me fine. It really does but I’m not sure that a person can be left stateless.
Diane Foley the mother of murdered journalist James Foley want “someone” to take responsibility for their trial. She fears the longer they stay in Syria the more likely they will escape justice.
Personally I hope the Americans take them to trial in the States but failing that I think that GB has to take responsibility and bring them to justice here.4 - Sponsored links:
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Sure, take responsibility for em just over the Turkey / Syria border, by sticking a few 8mm rounds into em.ShootersHillGuru said:If under international law they can be left where they are then that suits me fine. It really does but I’m not sure that a person can be left stateless.
Diane Foley the mother of murdered journalist James Foley want “someone” to take responsibility for their trial. She fears the longer they stay in Syria the more likely they will escape justice.
Personally I hope the Americans take them to trial in the States but failing that I think that GB has to take responsibility and bring them to justice here.2 -
The irony of people wishing to behave in a barbaric, anti democratic and anti human social evolution way which they condemn others for behaving in is never lost on me. Acting in such a way is ok as long as it's under their justification but not anyone elses apparently.16
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Forget them.0
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"take responsibility" ----- yes why not ,i mean 400/600 of their "army" walked back into the UK without ANY consequences---20/30,000 radicals live here ---yes bring the poor boys "home"-----let them live at our expense for decades at a cost to" their fellow" tax payers---forget the millions it will cost ---forget that as ISIS they destroyed ANY vestige of nationality in order to belong to that death cult---- bring the boys home,get the black flags out,we must do the right thing0
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We should ask these fellas what they would do...
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ThisDRAddick said:The irony of people wishing to behave in a barbaric, anti democratic and anti human social evolution way which they condemn others for behaving in is never lost on me. Acting in such a way is ok as long as it's under their justification but not anyone elses apparently.
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I don't give a toss about the IS scum and wish that they had already been topped.Addickted said:
Tough shit. No one forced them to go there and fight.TellyTubby said:
Syria has little in the way of a legal process just now.ShootersHillGuru said:1. Reinstate their British citizenship.
2. Put them on trail in a British Courtroom judged by their peers.
3. If they are found guilty then sentence them according to the law.
That’s how the law works in a democracy. I don’t see a problem with it at all.
Let whatever legal process there is left in Syria go through it's course and punish them by Syrian laws.
Did humanitarian aid workers Alan Henning and David Haines, both UK citizens helping locals caught up in this jihad, get a fair trial before they were beheaded by these scum? And it was these scum who did it by their own admission - along with 25 other Western hostages.
My sympathies lie with their captors who are trying to do the right thing in the face of little infrastructure.0 -
All this 'stateless' b*llocks. They're members/citizens/civilians of the Islamic 'State' so let the Islamic 'State' support them.4
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Somebody likened it to a person who murdered their mother and father but then asks for the mercy of the court because they were an orphan.9
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Weird how you chose to point out the irony / hypocrisy in law abiding folk having a view that these rats should not be allowed back to stand trial in the UK and be left to sort themselves out, for whatever fate awaits them elsewhere. Instead of pointing out the initial irony / hypocrisy in them wanted a "fair trial" in the UK, after fighting to enforce the polar opposite, across the world, for the last few yearsDRAddick said:The irony of people wishing to behave in a barbaric, anti democratic and anti human social evolution way which they condemn others for behaving in is never lost on me. Acting in such a way is ok as long as it's under their justification but not anyone elses apparently.
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But then the daughter of another victim (David Haines), is not happy that the "two individuals who have committed such heinous crimes have been treated like guests with access to the media and are allowed access to smartphones.", after the pair have shown "no remorse"ShootersHillGuru said:If under international law they can be left where they are then that suits me fine. It really does but I’m not sure that a person can be left stateless.
Diane Foley the mother of murdered journalist James Foley want “someone” to take responsibility for their trial. She fears the longer they stay in Syria the more likely they will escape justice.
Personally I hope the Americans take them to trial in the States but failing that I think that GB has to take responsibility and bring them to justice here.0 -
Yep. Likewise.gilbertfilbert said:I’m normally of the wishy-washy persuasion. But in this case, f**k ‘em.
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Yep those Brexit voters are in the same category as the IS fighters, peas in a pod and rightfully mocked on this thread..Callumcafc said:We should ask these fellas what they would do...
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Wtf that's some insult0
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Couldn’t name one of them who are they?Callumcafc said:We should ask these fellas what they would do...
Easy solution for these two scum bags shoot them in the face with a cross bow through the eye ball and leave them where they fall
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Ah. Summary Justice. Aren’t you forgetting to torture them first ?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sure, take responsibility for em just over the Turkey / Syria border, by sticking a few 8mm rounds into em.ShootersHillGuru said:If under international law they can be left where they are then that suits me fine. It really does but I’m not sure that a person can be left stateless.
Diane Foley the mother of murdered journalist James Foley want “someone” to take responsibility for their trial. She fears the longer they stay in Syria the more likely they will escape justice.
Personally I hope the Americans take them to trial in the States but failing that I think that GB has to take responsibility and bring them to justice here.
We become just as bad as them if we don’t stick with those hard earned rights under our democracy.
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No, no torture, just shoot em both through the head.ShootersHillGuru said:
Ah. Summary Justice. Aren’t you forgetting to torture them first ?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sure, take responsibility for em just over the Turkey / Syria border, by sticking a few 8mm rounds into em.ShootersHillGuru said:If under international law they can be left where they are then that suits me fine. It really does but I’m not sure that a person can be left stateless.
Diane Foley the mother of murdered journalist James Foley want “someone” to take responsibility for their trial. She fears the longer they stay in Syria the more likely they will escape justice.
Personally I hope the Americans take them to trial in the States but failing that I think that GB has to take responsibility and bring them to justice here.
We become just as bad as them if we don’t stick with those hard earned rights under our democracy.
I can't see the point in torturing em meself, but whatever floats your boat Shootie1 -
NLA neither could I but its said above they are Brexit voters , so far game to be slagged off in a thread FUCK all to do with that vote and of course all happen to be white men ---again open to be slagged off by the Lilly Allen crew on here7
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Perhaps the shameful situation you highlight is a good reason to get them into proper custody in a country where they are deprived of such luxuries . You can’t have it both ways.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
But then the daughter of another victim (David Haines), is not happy that the "two individuals who have committed such heinous crimes have been treated like guests with access to the media and are allowed access to smartphones.", after the pair have shown "no remorse"ShootersHillGuru said:If under international law they can be left where they are then that suits me fine. It really does but I’m not sure that a person can be left stateless.
Diane Foley the mother of murdered journalist James Foley want “someone” to take responsibility for their trial. She fears the longer they stay in Syria the more likely they will escape justice.
Personally I hope the Americans take them to trial in the States but failing that I think that GB has to take responsibility and bring them to justice here.
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Not weird just not part of this particular episode of the conversation amongst people on here. I'm fully aware of their irony thank you, just pointing out the irony of those who are seemingly unaware their own whilst thinking their proposed actions are above the same actions of those barbarians they condemn.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Weird how you chose to point out the irony / hypocrisy in law abiding folk having a view that these rats should not be allowed back to stand trial in the UK and be left to sort themselves out, for whatever fate awaits them elsewhere. Instead of pointing out the initial irony / hypocrisy in them wanted a "fair trial" in the UK, after fighting to enforce the polar opposite, across the world, for the last few yearsDRAddick said:The irony of people wishing to behave in a barbaric, anti democratic and anti human social evolution way which they condemn others for behaving in is never lost on me. Acting in such a way is ok as long as it's under their justification but not anyone elses apparently.
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