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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    Wouldn't be opposed to losing him which says a lot in itself...
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145

    Robinson was 33/1 yesterday for the Oxford United job. Today he is 10/1. Interesting.

    Think thats just someone who has shoved alot of money on him with betvictor.

    Not even in the odds on skybet or ladbrokes
    Depends what you call a lot of money , these bookies won’t let you put over £100 on these things unless it suits their book .
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Bye bye Karl welcome José...











    Riga
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
  • Phil
    Phil Posts: 612
    Robinson is gullable? Hardly the best defence!
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Phil said:

    Robinson is gullable? Hardly the best defence!

    Maybe. But like most of us, he wouldn't want to be without a job.

  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Phil said:

    Robinson is gullable? Hardly the best defence!

    Bit like us then, boom boom
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    MrLargo said:

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    After Roland had worked his way through Powell, Riga, Peeters, Luzon, Fraeye, Riga (again) and Slade in the space of about 2 and 3/4 years, I'd say surely only the most gormless halfwit would fall for anything Roland has to say.

    Karl's book would have more words than the Oxford English Dictionary and less insight than the average Sunday Sport front page although, in line with that publication, it would feature at least one huge tit.
    That’s almost as side splitting as my joke.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,215
    JamesSeed said:

    MrLargo said:

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    After Roland had worked his way through Powell, Riga, Peeters, Luzon, Fraeye, Riga (again) and Slade in the space of about 2 and 3/4 years, I'd say surely only the most gormless halfwit would fall for anything Roland has to say.

    Karl's book would have more words than the Oxford English Dictionary and less insight than the average Sunday Sport front page although, in line with that publication, it would feature at least one huge tit.
    That’s almost as side splitting as my joke.
    Your 4-2 down as it stands
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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024

    I’ve been very much in favour of giving him the benefit of the doubt and thought he deserved a chance under new owners - that was up until the Oxford game. No faith in him whatsoever now.

    So on 87 minutes he has a job, then six minutes later he does not.

    You'd make a good football chairman Dicky, you're in the wrong line of work.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    I’ve been very much in favour of giving him the benefit of the doubt and thought he deserved a chance under new owners - that was up until the Oxford game. No faith in him whatsoever now.

    So on 87 minutes he has a job, then six minutes later he does not.

    You'd make a good football chairman Dicky, you're in the wrong line of work.
    It was more like 4 mins. Everybody in the ground could see what was going to happen. - apart from him.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.

    That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.

    That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
    Apparently likeable and approachable doesn't cut it, Just ask Park.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited March 2018

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    But you're probably right, he shouldn't have touched us with a bargepole. On that basis we would have been left with another Fraye though surely?

    But also, not everyone follows the minutiae of the ins and outs of Charlton the way we do.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited March 2018

    I’ve been very much in favour of giving him the benefit of the doubt and thought he deserved a chance under new owners - that was up until the Oxford game. No faith in him whatsoever now.

    So on 87 minutes he has a job, then six minutes later he does not.

    You'd make a good football chairman Dicky, you're in the wrong line of work.
    It was more like 4 mins. Everybody in the ground could see what was going to happen. - apart from him.
    Only because we're born pessimists. It didn't happen at MKD, even though we assumed it would.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.

    That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
    Les Reed was a nice bloke as well - but as @JamesSeed said, it isnt enough. You wait until you start paying to go again - you will soon change your opinion.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.

    That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
    Les Reed was a nice bloke as well - but as @JamesSeed said, it isnt enough. You wait until you start paying to go again - you will soon change your opinion.
    Have an ambulance on way.
    Elfsborg PAYING
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.

    That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
    Les Reed was a nice bloke as well - but as @JamesSeed said, it isnt enough. You wait until you start paying to go again - you will soon change your opinion.
    Yes, my opinion will change.

    Neither Robinson or the current board will be around.
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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.

    That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
    Les Reed was a nice bloke as well - but as @JamesSeed said, it isnt enough. You wait until you start paying to go again - you will soon change your opinion.
    Yes, my opinion will change.

    Neither Robinson or the current board will be around.
    Fingers crossed.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.

    That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
    Les Reed was a nice bloke as well - but as @JamesSeed said, it isnt enough. You wait until you start paying to go again - you will soon change your opinion.
    Yes, my opinion will change.

    Neither Robinson or the current board will be around.
    Fingers crossed.
    See you in twelve months mate.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.

    That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
    Les Reed was a nice bloke as well - but as @JamesSeed said, it isnt enough. You wait until you start paying to go again - you will soon change your opinion.
    Yes, my opinion will change.

    Neither Robinson or the current board will be around.
    Fingers crossed.
    See you in twelve months mate.
    Thats when my boycott begins
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024
    clb74 said:

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    Robinson's answers at the Bromley meeting amounted to the fact he knew what he was getting in to, although tbf he would have not known to what level.

    That aside, I found him very likeable and approachable.
    Les Reed was a nice bloke as well - but as @JamesSeed said, it isnt enough. You wait until you start paying to go again - you will soon change your opinion.
    Yes, my opinion will change.

    Neither Robinson or the current board will be around.
    Fingers crossed.
    See you in twelve months mate.
    Thats when my boycott begins
    For one miserable c*** you have a fantastic talent of pulling out some belters

    You are the Jack Dee of Charlton Life..
  • JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    This all day long. His words ( according to Big Dave Lockwood) when MK Dons manager “we were a basket case of a club). So he knew what he would be working with. No sympathy as he made the decision to work with this regime so can’t really moan when it turns out how it’s always does with Duchatelet.
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,341
    Oggy Red said:

    Phil said:

    Robinson is gullable? Hardly the best defence!

    Maybe. But like most of us, he wouldn't want to be without a job.

    I think he did say he had another job offer (I should know when he said it as we know he says very little in public!) when we offered him the chance, but his daughter told him to be ask our job as it had a bigger stadium
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited March 2018
    Clearly he’s not had a single proper window to get the squad that he wants. He and Gallen have had to beg, steel and borrow to get a half decent side together. The pursuit of Reeves and Marshall was possibly ill advised, with the benefit of hindsight. But (and yes I don’t know what they are paid) we picked them up on the cheap, and there were few dissenting voices here.

    Also, worth bearing in mind that there are plenty of quality players that wouldn’t touch us with a bargepole under the current regime. Let’s hope that changes with a new owner - I’m sure it will.

    I suppose Robinson must expect that he’ll be sacked if we doesn’t make the playoffs .

    If we do make the playoffs, then I’ll happily see him retained and given a proper window with funds.

    But either way, I won’t be losing sleep over it.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

    Did he really? Roly is a slippery bastard, and I doubt he told Karl the truth. Karl's book'll be interesting.
    I’ve defended Robinson a lot this season but what I can’t accept is that he didn’t know what he was getting into or what to expect.

    He’d slagged off the way the club was being run himself as an opposing manager and he has said that every single person he spoke to before joining tried to warn him off.

    I’m disappointed he hasn’t proved a better manager and accept he’s been working under some constraints, but he was either naive or stupidly arrogant not to think he wouldn’t have those constraints.
    This all day long. His words ( according to Big Dave Lockwood) when MK Dons manager “we were a basket case of a club). So he knew what he would be working with. No sympathy as he made the decision to work with this regime so can’t really moan when it turns out how it’s always does with Duchatelet.
    To be fair, we all knew that. I’m not sure if it’s meant as a criticism or as a compliment.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    If I was a new owner I wouldn’t be giving Robinson any of my money to spend on new players, I’d have to get a new man in.

    Not because I think Robinson doesn’t have an eye for a good player, but because he hasn’t got a clue how to use them.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667

    If I was a new owner I wouldn’t be giving Robinson any of my money to spend on new players, I’d have to get a new man in.

    Not because I think Robinson doesn’t have an eye for a good player, but because he hasn’t got a clue how to use them.

    This times ten.
    Robinson would not have a fuckin clue what system to play apart from 4 2 3 1.