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  • Ok Robinson, pick a window, you're leaving.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    Ok Robinson, pick a window, you're leaving.

    Was that from Minder?
  • I don't know, I first heard it from my son ages ago.
  • JamesSeed said:

    To what extent is the squad Karl’s squad. He helped out the regime (and us I guess) by rigorously pruning the one he inherited, and he’s brought in four (?) players and some loanees.
    He’s done that without spending much at all.

    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    I’m not really sure that it’s 100% Karl’s squad is it?

    Either way he should probably getting more wins out of them.

    JamesSeed said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson gets us promoted with this squad it will be nothing short of a miracle.

    Our defence is shocking as are our options up front.

    Our squad is easily amongst the 3-4 best in the division. Certainly better than Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe, not to mention in the summer we signed 2 of Bradford's best players from last year and they're still above us!
    Have you watched much league one footy outside of Charlton? Shrewsbury have got an excellent defence, far better than ours. Scunny are overall probably even with us.

    I would say we have three or four players who are good enough to get us out of this league.

    How many of our current players, excluding loans would have got in to Powell's league winning team? My opinion is two! Pearce for Taylor and Fosu for Green/Wagstaff.

    It was an odd choice to bring in two additional wide men on loan. It's clear that is not what we are lacking....

    It's a shame, because if Robinson had been given some dosh to spend I think he'd got us out of this league.
    They're performing better than us, there's no doubt about that. But the point is about the overall squad. Our squad is (on paper) way better than Shrewsbury! We have internationals, youth internationals, guys with experience in much higher divisions. Shrewsbury's squad (aside from their loan players) are almost all from the lower leagues and non league.
    Unfortunately for your argument they have players brought in from Man Utd, Swansea and Burnley (Prem) and from Reading, Wolves, Derby, Sheffield Utd, Barnsley and two from Norwich (Championship).
    They have loan players, the same as we do @Chris_from_Sidcup

    Might be an idea to save the anti Robbo stuff until the end of the season.
    Shrewsbury’s defence is ‘better’ than ours because they have a manager and coaching team that organises them brilliantly. Man for man they are not better than ours, but collectively they are.

    They also score plenty of late goals to WIN games. Another sign of good management and team mentality. In the last 15 minutes of games this season Shrewsbury and us have both scored 10 goals, but they’ve conceded 4. We’ve conceded 14!

    Agreed. The fact that they score late in games so often speaks volumes for their mentality. I bet when they go a goal up they continue to press forward.
    I’m looking forward to seeing them on the 24th.
    A Polish friend is coming to the game because he wants to see Zyro. I hope he isn’t disappointed.
    I think 3 windows is enough to say it's 100% his squad, he knew exactly what constraints he'd be working under when he took the job.

  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    JamesSeed said:


    But I think he’d probably claim that given some financial backing his squad might be stronger - hopefully physically as well as in terms of depth. He has said he lacks an athletic/strong midfielder.

    Why didn't he go and get one last summer, then?

    He only needed a physically strong water carrier with good engine, able to tackle and enough football brain to keep things simple.
    A Danny Hollands type.

    They are 2 a penny in this division. Every team has got one - except us.


  • Exactly, could of got one but instead spent the wages on Reeves
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,214
    edited February 2018
    Found out today once again. No point getting rid of him until the end of of the season, but God forbid when a new owner comes in, get rid of this charlatan.

  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,664
    When Roland goes Robinson will go to.
    Whoever buys the club will not want Robinson as manager and rightly so
  • It does worry me that a certain section of our fan base think Karl is the best thing since sliced bread. His football is all about style and no substance.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    I’ve been very much in favour of giving him the benefit of the doubt and thought he deserved a chance under new owners - that was up until the Oxford game. No faith in him whatsoever now.
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    I think he confirmed today he's not good enough... Or at least his players aren't
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,588
    Dazzler21 said:

    I think he confirmed today he's not good enough... Or at least his players aren't

    He's never done anything to suggest he is good enough.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    DRAddick said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    I think he confirmed today he's not good enough... Or at least his players aren't

    He's never done anything to suggest he is good enough.
    Correct and today for me confirmed it. After they missed the penalty we should have gone for the jugular, instead we began to sit back more... I have mentioned elsewhere I was on the half way line, Karl didn't once scream at the players to attack not sure if anyone else noticed he also seemed to have mini disagreements with JDS, JFC and Magennis. each time he called them over, said something to them each of them gave him a look of death and said something back to him before shaking their heads and walking away from him.
  • He's clueless. 4231 is not needed and far too complicated in this division. 422 and then every player knows their job and can't hide.

    Drops players when in form like Aribo and Kag and has his favourites like Jfc, and what do we get, we get him sidefooting at goal from 8 yards with 4 players on the line.

    Today was yet another where we saw a team v a load of individuals.
  • Bubble
    Bubble Posts: 1,541
    All got a bit Ian Holloway at the end didn’t it?
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,214

    It does worry me that a certain section of our fan base think Karl is the best thing since sliced bread. His football is all about style and no substance.

    Most of them fooled by his bullshit. Most of them under the age of 20.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,030

    He's clueless. 4231 is not needed and far too complicated in this division. 422 and then every player knows their job and can't hide.

    Drops players when in form like Aribo and Kag and has his favourites like Jfc, and what do we get, we get him sidefooting at goal from 8 yards with 4 players on the line.

    Today was yet another where we saw a team v a load of individuals.

    that was a horrendous attempt from a professional footballer.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,724
    Dazzler21 said:

    DRAddick said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    I think he confirmed today he's not good enough... Or at least his players aren't

    He's never done anything to suggest he is good enough.
    Correct and today for me confirmed it. After they missed the penalty we should have gone for the jugular, instead we began to sit back more... I have mentioned elsewhere I was on the half way line, Karl didn't once scream at the players to attack not sure if anyone else noticed he also seemed to have mini disagreements with JDS, JFC and Magennis. each time he called them over, said something to them each of them gave him a look of death and said something back to him before shaking their heads and walking away from him.
    Noticed this when JFC went over. Plays to the rumour that no one takes any notice of what he says
  • shirty5 said:

    Found out today once again. No point getting rid of him until the end of of the season, but God forbid when a new owner comes in, get rid of this charlatan.

    Next season is the point of getting rid, let someone new figure out what's needed.
  • The sooner we get a new owner the better. They can then get a new man in asap so he has time to assess the squad and decide who he wants to get rid of and who he wants to buy so we can move quickly for targets in the summer, so we're not dicking around come the first game of the season still looking for players.

    Sir Alex was always a big advocate of getting transfer business done early so the new guys had a pre season to get to know team mates and tactics and let's face it, he wasn't exactly a bad manager.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755

    The sooner we get a new owner the better. They can then get a new man in asap so he has time to assess the squad and decide who he wants to get rid of and who he wants to buy so we can move quickly for targets in the summer, so we're not dicking around come the first game of the season still looking for players.

    Sir Alex was always a big advocate of getting transfer business done early so the new guys had a pre season to get to know team mates and tactics and let's face it, he wasn't exactly a bad manager.

    The summer window closes before the season starts from next season anyway.
  • The sooner we get a new owner the better. They can then get a new man in asap so he has time to assess the squad and decide who he wants to get rid of and who he wants to buy so we can move quickly for targets in the summer, so we're not dicking around come the first game of the season still looking for players.

    Sir Alex was always a big advocate of getting transfer business done early so the new guys had a pre season to get to know team mates and tactics and let's face it, he wasn't exactly a bad manager.

    The summer window closes before the season starts from next season anyway.
    First game is 5 August. Transfer window closes 9 August.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,804
    He is not the best manager in the league, he is not the worst but he does not act to change the game:
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    Croydon said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    DRAddick said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    I think he confirmed today he's not good enough... Or at least his players aren't

    He's never done anything to suggest he is good enough.
    Correct and today for me confirmed it. After they missed the penalty we should have gone for the jugular, instead we began to sit back more... I have mentioned elsewhere I was on the half way line, Karl didn't once scream at the players to attack not sure if anyone else noticed he also seemed to have mini disagreements with JDS, JFC and Magennis. each time he called them over, said something to them each of them gave him a look of death and said something back to him before shaking their heads and walking away from him.
    Noticed this when JFC went over. Plays to the rumour that no one takes any notice of what he says
    Noticed that too with JFC, got quite heated at one point
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343

    shirty5 said:

    Found out today once again. No point getting rid of him until the end of of the season, but God forbid when a new owner comes in, get rid of this charlatan.

    Next season is the point of getting rid, let someone new figure out what's needed.
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  • Tunwellsaddick
    Tunwellsaddick Posts: 2,452
    edited February 2018
    So, it's the players fault again by not sticking to the game plan?
    Either:-
    a) Robinson did not get his point over to the players
    b) The players did not listen to him
    c) Shrewsbury were the better team
    d) Robinson has not got a clue and has lost the dressing room

    Definitely c and probably d as well
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,640
    His body language was different yesterday and his relationship with the players looks strained at the least.

    will he rock up at Sheffield Wednesday in the near future???
  • Robinson was 33/1 yesterday for the Oxford United job. Today he is 10/1. Interesting.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Ffs thought he'd gone
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344

    Robinson was 33/1 yesterday for the Oxford United job. Today he is 10/1. Interesting.

    Think thats just someone who has shoved alot of money on him with betvictor.

    Not even in the odds on skybet or ladbrokes