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  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    72-7 eng need 3 wickets to win, SA need a lot of runs.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Chrissy\\\'s Army!! said:

    I'll see how things are a the close of play, but I might take a trip up to Lords tomorrow. Could be a great day's play

    Probably not going to be worth it now
    probably not going to be on tomorrow now!
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    Johnnysummers5 said:

    I see Moeen has got de Kock out

    How rude! :smiley:
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    5 for Moeen. Well played sir!
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,010
    Moeen is on fire!
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    Won by 211 runs.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Johnnysummers5 said:

    I see Moeen has got de Kock out

    Thank god Ball and Willey aren't playing

  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    SA in a bit of turmoil methinks.
    Rabada out of next Test, and possibly Philander too, who was their best player this time with both bat and ball.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    All over 119 all out Moeen gets 10 in a match for the first time.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    I see England women beat Oz in the World Cup by 3 runs !
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  • Addictedoldgit
    Addictedoldgit Posts: 1,826
    The_President said:

    I see England women beat Oz in the World Cup by 3 runs !

    Memories of 2005 !
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    A great day at Lord's today

    The strange thing is that the first 40 minutes, with Cook and Ballance grinding it out were pretty quiet and slow, but once they went it was batting carnage! 18 wickets in the day

    The pitch was tough, but there were some poor batting as well. The Saffer batting lineup looked weak on paper, and proved to be out in the middle
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    killerandflash said:

    A great day at Lord's today

    The strange thing is that the first 40 minutes, with Cook and Ballance grinding it out were pretty quiet and slow, but once they went it was batting carnage! 18 wickets in the day

    The pitch was tough, but there were some poor batting as well. The Saffer batting lineup looked weak on paper, and proved to be out in the middle

    I believe it was 19 wickets, but no doubt you missed one whilst queuing for a beer - they did fall quite rapidly at times !
  • Kenny Achampong
    Kenny Achampong Posts: 540
    I thought that that first session of the 4th day was a perfect demonstration of why you can't have Cook and Ballance in the same top three.

    Essentially as soon as they came together, the scoring starts to get bogged down, and bowlers like to bowl at matching batsmen, which you could see their bowlers enjoyed on the 4th morning.

    I honestly think that Root should go back to three, as he is our best batter, and his hi-energy approach means that we can always keep the score-board moving in the right direction.

    Thinking forward to the Ashes later this year, I can see Hazelwood being allowed to build pressure on our top order, whilst we are being attacked at the other end by Starc and Cummins etc.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    edited July 2017
    Cook and Ballance put on 59 for the 2nd wicket and 2nd highest partnership of the 2nd innings in 25.3 overs , not too shabby conditions taken in to consideration , we can't always score at 4 an over .
    Although can't understand why Root would bat at 4 he is the main man
    Edit: Just read Root bats at 4 because that is his preferred position
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Kenny Achampong said:

    I thought that that first session of the 4th day was a perfect demonstration of why you can't have Cook and Ballance in the same top three.

    Essentially as soon as they came together, the scoring starts to get bogged down, and bowlers like to bowl at matching batsmen, which you could see their bowlers enjoyed on the 4th morning.

    I honestly think that Root should go back to three, as he is our best batter, and his hi-energy approach means that we can always keep the score-board moving in the right direction.

    Thinking forward to the Ashes later this year, I can see Hazelwood being allowed to build pressure on our top order, whilst we are being attacked at the other end by Starc and Cummins etc.

    I thought that at the time, and I guess the assumption around the ground was that Cook getting out would start England's acceleration. Which didn't happen, as it wasn't that sort of pitch, which only became clear as the other batsmen struggled.

    I guess the issue with England's batting line up at the moment, is that we have three accumulators in the top 3, followed by several dashers, and it would be nice to have someone more imposing at the top of the order as well. The England selectors I imagine were hoping Hales could do this job when they tried him last year(?) but his technique wasn't good enough.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited July 2017
    Just read that Tamim Iqbal has cut short his T20 spell with Essex over a racially motivated attack on his wife. Horrible to hear the rumours about what kind of attack it was and glad it appears no real harm was done.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Callumcafc said:

    Just read that Tamim Iqbal has cut short his T20 spell with Essex over a racially motivated attack on his wife. Horrible to hear the rumours about what kind of attack it was and glad it appears no real harm was done.

    Is that definitely the reason, as that's awful
  • Kenny Achampong
    Kenny Achampong Posts: 540
    oohaahmortimer said:

    Cook and Ballance put on 59 for the 2nd wicket and 2nd highest partnership of the 2nd innings in 25.3 overs , not too shabby conditions taken in to consideration , we can't always score at 4 an over .
    Although can't understand why Root would bat at 4 he is the main man
    Edit: Just read Root bats at 4 because that is his preferred position

    That may have been the case, but the broader point remains the same.

    That top three is too stodgy, and we need either an opener or a number three, whom can increase the run rate a bit more, or we are going to consistently end up at 50-3 after 25 overs.

    The captain generally gets to bat where they choose, but in this instance I think Root should bat at three and not a place lower.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    killerandflash said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Just read that Tamim Iqbal has cut short his T20 spell with Essex over a racially motivated attack on his wife. Horrible to hear the rumours about what kind of attack it was and glad it appears no real harm was done.

    Is that definitely the reason, as that's awful
    Apparently not so.



    Anyway, back to England. Sorry for posting here, just didn't think it was worth starting a whole new topic and can't bring myself to track down the Essex CCC topic to post it there. ;-)
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    That's good.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    England unchanged
    South Africa have made three changes from their defeat at Lord's. Faf du Plessis returns to captain the side after missing the first Test to attend the birth of his child.

    Chris Morris and Duanne Olivier are also included in the XI with JP Duminy and Theunis de Bruyn left out while Kagiso Rabada is suspended following his expletive-laden outburst.

    South Africa: Dean Elgar, Heino Kuhn, Hashim Amla, Faf du Plessis, Temba Bavuma, Quinton de Kock, Chris Morris, Vernon Philander, Keshav Maharaj, Duanne Olivier, Morne Morkel.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    SA won toss & bat first, which both teams are happy with.

    3-0
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    18-1

    Elgar c Dawson b Anderson 6
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    edited July 2017
    66-2

    Kuhn b Broad 34
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    Heineken?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Covered End said:

    66-2

    Kuhn b Broad 34

    Bowled actually :smile:
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    Who is going to get de Kock out?
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    Johnnysummers5 said:

    Who is going to get de Kock out?

    Not me, I've just been
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Johnnysummers5 said:

    Who is going to get de Kock out?

    Stuart Broad!

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