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Ricky Holmes

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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,247
    Good luck to him. 30 years old and may not get another chance to play championship football. Don't begrudge him a move elsewhere, whilst playing in front of a 1/3 full ground against pub teams
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    If he goes we have a potential replacement in Christian Ceballos.
  • EdgeleyAddick
    EdgeleyAddick Posts: 939
    SurvivaloftheFittest said:

    When the Sheffield Utd fans told me about this a few months ago they knew so much about him it made me wonder whether it was more than just pub talk. Genuinely, I could name probably 1 or 2 of their players and even then my knowledge of who they are / where they play would be limited.

    It may be a controversial view, but I don't know how Holmes would fare in the Championship. The standard of defensive opposition in the Chanpionship in comparison to League 1 is such a gulf and whilst a lot of what Ricky does come off, a lot of it doesn't and I think those mis-placed passes or one too many touches would get punished much more in the Championship than it has this season. I think he'd have to tailor his game and for me, the exciting thing about Ricky is not knowing what he'll do next.

    Hopefully we won't have to find out and he'll still be our player next season.

    Agree. Similar to Adam Hammill at Barnsley. He'll have a few decent games in the championship, but that's about it.

    ILike the effort he has put in this year, but he needs to be quicker thinking for me. Probably unfair on him, but just the way I see it when I watch from the stand.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,228
    As good as Holmes is he's not as good as JBG and that's the standard you need to be playing at in The Championship for regular football.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    MartinCAFC said:

    As good as Holmes is he's not as good as JBG and that's the standard you need to be playing at in The Championship for regular football.

    But JBG is a Premiership star.........................oh hold a minute.
  • CharltonDave85
    CharltonDave85 Posts: 502
    ow well life goes on sadly
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    And so it begins!
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,409
    Well, he bowed out with a good display ... if players of his ability go it's a sign that we aren't serious about trying to get back into the Championship.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,823
    edited April 2017
    J BLOCK said:

    Just been told it's done and dusted to Sheff Utd. Very good source.

    Should this happen it will be a shame but you can't blame a player for wanting to better himself (synonym: get paid more) and test himself against a higher standard of opposition.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,482
    Think he'd do okay in the Championship - our best player by a mile this season. Fantastic stamina and exciting to watch - deserves a shot at the Championship.

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,437
    Holmes would have got in our title winning team ahead of Green or Wagstaff. He could be a decent player in the Championship even though he probably wouldn't be good enough for a promotion chasing team.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,827
    Scoham said:

    Holmes would have got in our title winning team ahead of Green or Wagstaff. He could be a decent player in the Championship even though he probably wouldn't be good enough for a promotion chasing team.

    Imagining the title winning team with Holmes in it... I think we might have won every game.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,717
    edited April 2017
    cafc_harry said:

    Load of bollocks. He's been jokingly linked with them all season by fans then all of a sudden he's as good as signed? Never been linked by anyone with remote credibility.

    This for me. I'll stick my neck out & say that on Sept 1 he'll still be with us. can't see him going anywhere.

    If he does it will be up there with Kermorgant going as the most stupidest decision by the regime.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,209
    Ricky would be a big loss, but you can't blame him if he does want to take the opportunity to play in the Championship. He's at his peak age wise so may not get another chance (hopefully with us the season after next but who knows what his and our situation will be by then) so as long we are getting a good price I think we have to let him go - it's how properly run clubs treat their players.

    Want him to stay though and these 'good source' comments I'm constantly reading on here usually turn out to be bollocks, so when it's on the OS etc.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,445
    Holmes is good enough for a top half championship side.

    Plenty of players in the champ play off positions who can't hit a free kick as well as Ricky.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    Swisdom said:

    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Swisdom said:

    My friend spoke to him after the game and asked if he was staying and his quote was " I have another year on my contract so I hope so "

    Will soon change his mind when offered a longer contract on more money to play for a better team in a higher division for a manager he knows well.
    Oop north though.

    Think he's settled down here and we are likely to offer a new contract

    He would be mental to not take the opportunity to go to a big club going through a resurgence with a manager he trusts, in the division above. Don't care where it is, you don't turn that down when you're at his age and currently playing for this joke shop.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,477
    Scoham said:

    Holmes would have got in our title winning team ahead of Green or Wagstaff. He could be a decent player in the Championship even though he probably wouldn't be good enough for a promotion chasing team.

    A bit damning with faint praise as Green was awful and Waggy was...limited. But yeah, would have made that team better.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,338
    Think he'll stay another year, we'll offer him a decent pay rise and an extra year on his contract, maybe at the cost of a minimum fee transfer clause or permission to talk to clubs from higher divisions if bids are put in.

    However, I reckon at least 2 players will be sold that we'll be unhappy with, including Aribo or Konsa.

    Robinson talks a good game and has football contacts so expect a couple of decent young players on loan again, similar to us getting Mavididi and DaSilva this time around
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,191
    Swisdom said:

    My friend spoke to him after the game and asked if he was staying and his quote was " I have another year on my contract so I hope so "

    Good news - thanks for sharing
    Bad news - your friend is Katrien
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,348
    Any Charlton player getting an offer to play in a higher division would be a complete mug if he turned it down.

    The shower of malignancy that runs this club right now should put off anyone from staying. The inept, incoherent incompetents that run Charlton are so woefully beyond their ability that you'd have to question why any player would choose to remain.

    Dammit, I think I'd even jack it in and I can't even play football. (Although, to be fair, having no footballing ability hasn't been a barrier to a Charlton contract since early 2014).

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,071
    SurvivaloftheFittest said:

    When the Sheffield Utd fans told me about this a few months ago they knew so much about him it made me wonder whether it was more than just pub talk. Genuinely, I could name probably 1 or 2 of their players and even then my knowledge of who they are / where they play would be limited.

    It may be a controversial view, but I don't know how Holmes would fare in the Championship. The standard of defensive opposition in the Chanpionship in comparison to League 1 is such a gulf and whilst a lot of what Ricky does come off, a lot of it doesn't and I think those mis-placed passes or one too many touches would get punished much more in the Championship than it has this season. I think he'd have to tailor his game and for me, the exciting thing about Ricky is not knowing what he'll do next.

    Hopefully we won't have to find out and he'll still be our player next season.

    Agree, but if I was him I'd want the chance to see if I could play at that level and I don't think he will get another chance after this summer (unless Charlton are promoted).
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    sammy391 said:

    Holmes is 29, which arguably gives him one or two years being able to play like he does now ... he surely would jump at the chance to play higher especially at a club so well supported but also managed by his old mate!

    This in spades. Forwards statistically start decline at 28, so he has little time left. Can't see him getting a contract here to age 31 or something when he can move up a league.

  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,873
    Good player, hope he is here next season
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,869
    Well Lawrie Wilson liked my tweet congratulating him and saying I'd have him back so that must be a done deal then. ;)
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,787
    If Holmes and Magennis didn't get injured this season, we would have challenged for the play offs. He's too good for us, but don't think he'd play every week in a Championship side
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,412
    JoshAddick said:

    If Holmes and Magennis didn't get injured this season, we would have challenged for the play offs. He's too good for us, but don't think he'd play every week in a Championship side

    We were pants and can't defend for toffee.

    Pearce is the guy we missed, and we sold a LB to Wendies and replaced him with a 5 foot loanee.

    If the club sell Holmes then KR will have no grounds for spouting any top six ambitions, and the "board" will just show that they have not learned from the YK mistake they made on day one.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,955
    Chizz said:

    Any Charlton player getting an offer to play in a higher division would be a complete mug if he turned it down.

    The shower of malignancy that runs this club right now should put off anyone from staying. The inept, incoherent incompetents that run Charlton are so woefully beyond their ability that you'd have to question why any player would choose to remain.

    Dammit, I think I'd even jack it in and I can't even play football. (Although, to be fair, having no footballing ability hasn't been a barrier to a Charlton contract since early 2014).

    To be fair ANY club in L1 with decent players will struggle to hold on to them if they get an offer from the Championship and want to go. I don't think players are so concerned with the off the field stuff, especially the newer ones. Holmes was at Northampton last season, a complete basket case of a club, which still got promoted.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,385
    edited May 2017
    Valiantphil said:

    JoshAddick said:

    If Holmes and Magennis didn't get injured this season, we would have challenged for the play offs. He's too good for us, but don't think he'd play every week in a Championship side

    we sold a LB to Wendies and replaced him with a 5 foot loanee.
    ...who's maybe twice as good as Fox (and this is coming from a Fox fan) - like, the kid might play for England

    The problem was that we didn't immediately play him in his actual position but faffed around with Page (who may end up being decent, who knows) and even at one dreadful point Jackson

    I think our loan signings were of pretty good quality this season, our permanents were more of a problem
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    Valiantphil said:

    JoshAddick said:

    If Holmes and Magennis didn't get injured this season, we would have challenged for the play offs. He's too good for us, but don't think he'd play every week in a Championship side

    We were pants and can't defend for toffee.

    Pearce is the guy we missed, and we sold a LB to Wendies and replaced him with a 5 foot loanee.

    If the club sell Holmes then KR will have no grounds for spouting any top six ambitions, and the "board" will just show that they have not learned from the YK mistake they made on day one.
    Very bizarre to pick on Da Silva. He started playing and we started winning. It was the games we wasted on Page that cost us. I'd say Da Silva is a strong contender for our best player when he played.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,721
    He'll be gone, the club will auction off.

    Holmes under the hammer.

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