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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,706

    Wilder probably didn't know too much about our plight until the past few days. He agreed to meet. Fine.
    Problem for Duchatelet is that Wilder's got plenty of contacts in the game who have had dealings with us in the last couple of years.

    It's slowly unraveling to him what a basket case club we are.

    He knew, he was fully appraised of the situation late last week.
    Appraised by whom?

    Meire,Murray....?
    not going to give names but ex-Charlton people. Looks like he took it on board but thought he'd explore the opportunity anyway and see where it leads.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,365
    Quite a bit of times past between approach, announcement and now 'official talks' reckon there's more to it than the protests etc. more than likely to do with the contract that they've likely offered him, guessing it won't be more than a year and he won't be pleased with having to be from Sheffield for the sake of a short contract. Let's just hope someone's in Roland/ Katriens ear telling them to get this done. It really is their last chance to get anything out of this ownership, if he wants to make any money he needs to get us up. Getting some other puppet from Belgium (or Hungary) just won't do it. Really hope not but got a feeling they'll announced Nobby in the next few days with the same old 'we've spoke to a few mangers and couldn't get a deal done' excuse. Wouldn't even surprise me.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,937

    Wilder probably didn't know too much about our plight until the past few days. He agreed to meet. Fine.
    Problem for Duchatelet is that Wilder's got plenty of contacts in the game who have had dealings with us in the last couple of years.

    It's slowly unraveling to him what a basket case club we are.

    He knew, he was fully appraised of the situation late last week.
    Appraised by whom?

    Meire,Murray....?
    not going to give names but ex-Charlton people. Looks like he took it on board but thought he'd explore the opportunity anyway and see where it leads.
    So are you saying that some ex-Charlton people appraised Wilder of the situation at the club in an attempt to dissuade him?
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    I have just got a feeling that Simon Clark will be appointed Coach.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,424
    I don't get why they would announce they're in talks on the OS. Why not just wait til the deal's done?
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,496
    Chunes said:

    I don't get why they would announce they're in talks on the OS. Why not just wait til the deal's done?

    Because they are idiots.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,045
    Chunes said:

    I don't get why they would announce they're in talks on the OS. Why not just wait til the deal's done?

    cfgs said:

    Chunes said:

    I don't get why they would announce they're in talks on the OS. Why not just wait til the deal's done?

    Because they are idiots.
    And because they saw an opportunity to flog another handful of Season-Tickets
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,327
    Chunes said:

    I don't get why they would announce they're in talks on the OS. Why not just wait til the deal's done?

    Because we don't have a competent CEO and or Head of Comms. If we had either we might have told Northampton we didn't want any publicity but instead they let NTFC call the shots.

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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,772
    bobmunro said:

    Wilder probably didn't know too much about our plight until the past few days. He agreed to meet. Fine.
    Problem for Duchatelet is that Wilder's got plenty of contacts in the game who have had dealings with us in the last couple of years.

    It's slowly unraveling to him what a basket case club we are.

    He knew, he was fully appraised of the situation late last week.
    Appraised by whom?

    Meire,Murray....?
    not going to give names but ex-Charlton people. Looks like he took it on board but thought he'd explore the opportunity anyway and see where it leads.
    So are you saying that some ex-Charlton people appraised Wilder of the situation at the club in an attempt to dissuade him?
    Wilder would have initiated the calls.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,162
    edited May 2016

    Quite a bit of times past between approach, announcement and now 'official talks' reckon there's more to it than the protests etc. more than likely to do with the contract that they've likely offered him, guessing it won't be more than a year and he won't be pleased with having to be from Sheffield for the sake of a short contract.

    Old Shoestring/Shoetape was hoping to have got his little flat built above the club shop for the managers merry-go-around, that will put an end to pesky problems like these, as long as any new managers don't mind sharing with Carol on his many laptop-scouting trips back....
  • I could be wrong here.

    My feelings was the Northampton chairmen released the statement with the intention of hoping CW would reconsider.

    By confirming to the media he could be leaving, he has been openly ridiculed on social media about taking this job.

    After NTFC released their statement Charlton had no choice but to release one aswell.

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,045
    Didnt we release our Statement before Northampton though?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,706
    bobmunro said:

    Wilder probably didn't know too much about our plight until the past few days. He agreed to meet. Fine.
    Problem for Duchatelet is that Wilder's got plenty of contacts in the game who have had dealings with us in the last couple of years.

    It's slowly unraveling to him what a basket case club we are.

    He knew, he was fully appraised of the situation late last week.
    Appraised by whom?

    Meire,Murray....?
    not going to give names but ex-Charlton people. Looks like he took it on board but thought he'd explore the opportunity anyway and see where it leads.
    So are you saying that some ex-Charlton people appraised Wilder of the situation at the club in an attempt to dissuade him?
    I'm saying that Wilder spoke to a couple of people who are fully aware of the situation for their opinion/input. What they told him I am not privy too but I very much doubt it was in any way complimentary of the regime.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,772

    I could be wrong here.

    My feelings was the Northampton chairmen released the statement with the intention of hoping CW would reconsider.

    By confirming to the media he could be leaving, he has been openly ridiculed on social media about taking this job.

    After NTFC released their statement Charlton had no choice but to release one aswell.

    Think they were released at the same time. Since Northampton don't want him to leave, I can't see what leverage Charlton had, especially as the earlier approach was well known.
  • Didnt we release our Statement before Northampton though?

    Nope Northampton statement was released about 3/5 minutes before.

    If you compare statements ours is copied and pasted from theirs.

    Northampton best asset is transparency and that is our weaknesses.

    IMO that strategy makes total sense.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,772
    edited May 2016
    You think Charlton wrote and approved a statement in 3/5 minutes? Doesn't work like that. They will have been agreed in advance between the clubs.
  • Wilder deal hits a snag!
    Something to do with Roland not wanting to hand over control of transfers to the new manager?
    http://addickschampionshipdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/wilder-deal-hits-snag.html
  • Hovi's Biscuit
    Hovi's Biscuit Posts: 1,717

    You think Charlton wrote and approved a statement in 3/5 minutes? Doesn't work like that.

    {...} Perhaps not impossible nowadays {...}

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  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866

    You think Charlton wrote and approved a statement in 3/5 minutes? Doesn't work like that. They will have been agreed in advance between the clubs.

    But if ours contains copied/pasted sections, then at best the clubs colluded in their statements or ours was modified afterwards?
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,496
    edited May 2016
    @Airman Brown just a thought but what is the position for those that have bought season tickets in the hope they will learn (yeah right) and might want to cancel them shortly if Nobby is made coach?

    (Disclaimer) I haven't bought one just wondered on the legality of it.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,087

    Wilder deal hits a snag!
    Something to do with Roland not wanting to hand over control of transfers to the new manager?
    http://addickschampionshipdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/wilder-deal-hits-snag.html

    wouldn't surprise me if that was the reason
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,365
    Contract length and an agreement with Alan Knill are the main things I've seen mentioned. Easy to speculate over control over transfers etc. but I'd think the talks would have ended a hell of a lot quicker if that was the case.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,772
    LuckyReds said:

    You think Charlton wrote and approved a statement in 3/5 minutes? Doesn't work like that. They will have been agreed in advance between the clubs.

    But if ours contains copied/pasted sections, then at best the clubs colluded in their statements or ours was modified afterwards?
    They will have agreed to put out statements, spoken to each other and one followed the other. There's no way the comms staff just reacted to Northampton or that Meire wasn't involved.
  • Big in Brasov
    Big in Brasov Posts: 743
    Chunes said:

    I don't get why they would announce they're in talks on the OS. Why not just wait til the deal's done?

    'Cos they aint got a clue
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,041

    bobmunro said:

    Wilder probably didn't know too much about our plight until the past few days. He agreed to meet. Fine.
    Problem for Duchatelet is that Wilder's got plenty of contacts in the game who have had dealings with us in the last couple of years.

    It's slowly unraveling to him what a basket case club we are.

    He knew, he was fully appraised of the situation late last week.
    Appraised by whom?

    Meire,Murray....?
    not going to give names but ex-Charlton people. Looks like he took it on board but thought he'd explore the opportunity anyway and see where it leads.
    So are you saying that some ex-Charlton people appraised Wilder of the situation at the club in an attempt to dissuade him?
    I'm saying that Wilder spoke to a couple of people who are fully aware of the situation for their opinion/input. What they told him I am not privy too but I very much doubt it was in any way complimentary of the regime.
    Wilder would have been well aware that there are major issues at the club before he even expressed interest in the post, even if just watching the C5 Football league show! It's hardly a secret that there have been a succession of obscure Head Coaches, or that there were major fan protests happening.
  • jakecafc
    jakecafc Posts: 2,073
    Our club is a joke. Owners and staff are so out of their depth in anything they do! They probably want him on years rolling contract so he doesn't have to be paid a lot of compensation if they sack him all about money with Roland.
  • T
    T Posts: 1,349
    Chunes said:

    I don't get why they would announce they're in talks on the OS. Why not just wait til the deal's done?

    Northampton having it as part of the approach terms?

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,511

    Wilder probably didn't know too much about our plight until the past few days. He agreed to meet. Fine.
    Problem for Duchatelet is that Wilder's got plenty of contacts in the game who have had dealings with us in the last couple of years.

    It's slowly unraveling to him what a basket case club we are.

    He knew, he was fully appraised of the situation late last week.
    Appraised by whom?

    Meire,Murray....?
    not going to give names but ex-Charlton people. Looks like he took it on board but thought he'd explore the opportunity anyway and see where it leads.
    I think one of the most pertinent people to speak to about goings on in the last two years would be Johnnie Jackson.