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VOTV: Varney speaks out following latest Meire muddle (15/2)

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  • RedPanda said:

    Can someone please confirm if this is true? I've asked before - Olly Groome has stated this not to be right, CAST/Upbeats in fact don't have to pay for themselves.
    You mean the CAST gravy train ;0)

  • Rich Cawley has told me that the club didn't vet the questions and he wouldn't have proceeded on that basis, which I believe. I think it's more that RD gave answers he wanted to give, rather than addressed the questions. It was also done at very short notice in terms of the paper's deadlines and available space. But there's more to come anyway.
    More to come.......god help us!
  • I spoke to the Trust a few days ago and they asked me to clarify that this is simply not true. The Upbeats have never had 10 free season tickets. They pay for tickets just like every other scheme that operates under the Trust. There are certain days, like the one I think against Derby when they are playing on the pitch, where they put in a request for an allocation that they can then distribute. But nothing has changed in terms of process and no regular tickets have been stopped (they never had them to be stopped).
    Wasn't how I was told the set-up was but I trust you got told correctly, my apologies then! I thought it played a part in the Trust having to cut costs themselves to keep supplying what they are supplying for those they help, maybe an unrelated matter.

    Good news then if the Club aren't changing as much as first seemed in these sorts of things.
  • Wasn't how I was told the set-up was but I trust you got told correctly, my apologies then! I thought it played a part in the Trust having to cut costs themselves to keep supplying what they are supplying for those they help, maybe an unrelated matter.

    Good news then if the Club aren't changing as much as first seemed in these sorts of things.
    As the Club doesn't fund the Community Trust that funding can't be cut. I though the tickets from schools came from the club development team rather than the Trust anyway.
  • edited February 2016

    As the Club doesn't fund the Community Trust that funding can't be cut. I though the tickets from schools came from the club development team rather than the Trust anyway.
    No but if as thought the CT were needing to fund the ticket prices (rather than the Club) then they'd be needing to cut some costs somewhere to facilitate it (perhaps the Trust just needed to cut costs anyway hence the letting off of some contracted workers). The tickets from Schools do come from the Club, but they have cut that off as a regular thing (unless that is also deemed untrue), and seemingly the only time that has been done was this last week, and in a major fashion (3,000), rather than most/all matches.

    Onto the more pushing matters if all is well in this department!
  • No but if as thought the CT were needing to fund the ticket prices (rather than the Club) then they'd be needing to cut some costs somewhere to facilitate it (perhaps the Trust just needed to cut costs anyway hence the letting off of some contracted workers). The tickets from Schools do come from the Club, but they have cut that off as a regular thing (unless that is also deemed untrue), and seemingly the only time that has been done was this last week, and in a major fashion (3,000), rather than most/all matches.

    Onto the more pushing matters if all is well in this department!
    More likely that as the Community Trust is funded on a project by project basis if a funder (police, central or local government, NHS, etc) cut funding or a project comes to an end then there just isn't the money to pay for a project or jobs. I don't know the details but I have done some work with the CACT and that is my understanding of the funding model.
  • So someone punched The Upbeats in the face and stole their season tickets ?

    Or perhaps they didn't and the stormy tea cup runneth over again.
  • Uboat said:

    It's times like this that in even more annoyed than usual that I'm not a billionaire. I'd head over to Belgium, say to Roland, 'Here's £100m, now piss off', then walk out of his office laughing maniacally.

    Mine would be a similar response as yours but perhaps a shade more violent ;-)

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  • edited February 2016

    As the Club doesn't fund the Community Trust that funding can't be cut. I though the tickets from schools came from the club development team rather than the Trust anyway.
    Going back to 2012, but the tickets for schools came from the club development team and were administered by us. It was a major programme involving 300 primary schools and CACT wasn't involved, although we tried to help them build links where possible, as we did with group bookings, which almost invariably came from further afield.

    CACT also got 500 free tickets a match, typically, which they allocated to people on their various projects. They used this to add value to their offer and, if you like, it was a form of funding for the trust from the club. For certain games we would withdraw this facility and for others expand it, depending on likely demand for tickets for sale.
  • Let's be honest, no one who is serious about buying the club is going to go near us with a bargepole at the moment, it's a car crash in motion, if you were a buyer you'd wait till we were in league one and on our knees and pick us up at a fraction of the price.

    And that is the worry in when we do eventually get sold, what state will we be in.
  • edited February 2016
    removed my comment after seeing The Upbeats comment and season tickets wasn't true.
  • The upbeats now have to purchase their own tickets to matches as they are no longer given the 10 free season tickets they used to get each season. The Community Trust are now paying to let them attend (Trust is a completely separate entity and has to pay it's own way). In mid-December they had to cut the contracts of some of those working for the youth service, seemingly because their costs elsewhere were rising.

    Nasty mean bastard, and he wants to build bridges with the fans......yeah right lying sod!!

    It's not true.
  • I spoke to the Trust a few days ago and they asked me to clarify that this is simply not true. The Upbeats have never had 10 free season tickets. They pay for tickets just like every other scheme that operates under the Trust. There are certain days, like the one I think against Derby when they are playing on the pitch, where they put in a request for an allocation that they can then distribute. But nothing has changed in terms of process and no regular tickets have been stopped (they never had them to be stopped).
  • It's not true.
    Yep just seen that my going backwards on the thread, so removed my original comment
  • Rich Cawley has told me that the club didn't vet the questions and he wouldn't have proceeded on that basis, which I believe. I think it's more that RD gave answers he wanted to give, rather than addressed the questions. It was also done at very short notice in terms of the paper's deadlines and available space. But there's more to come anyway.
    I am pleased to hear that, and also appreciate editing can change the tone as well. But I would be interested to know if was he actually asked directly about Fraeye and those kind of things. His answers are quite long but actually vague, and he is well versed enough in politics to avoid giving direct answers, but it would be nice to know he was asked.

    I'm actually more depressed at the prospect of having to listen to more bullshit from the Belgian!
  • Didn't really know we're to post this, so I try here, wondered if these have been sent away from Charlton with a flea in there ear. Look exciting if you are a Bristol Rovers fan.

    BRISTOL Rovers are at an advanced stage in talks with a Jordanian family interested in making a significant investment in the club, the Bristol Post understands.

    Rovers have continually made public a desire to attract new investment and recently confirmed that as many as 12 groups of potential investors had expressed interest, which failed to materialise into anything significant.

    Yet, the Post has learned that Rovers have been in ongoing discussions with the Al-Qadi family, who are significant shareholders in the Arab Jordan Investment Bank (AJIB), for several months and an announcement that a deal has been signed is believed to be imminent.

    The family, which is considered one of the most influential in Jordan due to their banking and tourism interests, is headed by Abdulkader Al-Qadi, who founded AJIB in 1978.

    The Post understands that the investment is a "family commitment" but that one of Al-Qadi's three sons, Wael, would take a lead in managing the investment at board level.

    Currently working as an assistant general manager at AJIB, Wael has a keen interest in football and has held positions at both the Jordan Football Association and the Asian Football Development Project, which was founded by FIFA presidential candidate HRH Prince Ali Bin Al Hussein.

    He is a keen Chelsea supporter as a result of being schooled in London as a youngster before going on to complete his education in America at firstly, Boston University, and then, Harvard Business School.

    Several members of the family are expected to be present at the club's annual Valentine's Ball tomorrow night after taking in Rovers' League Two game against Morecambe at the Memorial Stadium on Saturday afternoon.

    Good luck to them, only slightly envious.
  • Quite envious.
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  • what if they were Belgian Big Issue sellers?
  • Macronate said:

    what if they were Belgian Big Issue sellers?

    Nothing against Belgian Big Issue sellers in theory. However, I'd say there's fairly decent chance that Karel Fraeye is now earning a living selling the Big Issue - obviously you'd have to make it quite clear to the consortium that we could only accept a takeover bid which specifically excluded him from any involvement.
  • Wasn't it a middle eastern bank with no cash who sold out Leeds to Chelino?
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