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Outrageous behaviour from our stewards today.

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  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    cafckev said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    Blown out of proportion, this happened right on front of my eyes.

    Happened in front of me, not sure what part of grabbing a customer by the scruff of the neck is acceptable.
    I never said it was acceptable, I just said the whole thing had been blown out of proportion.

    I support the person with the banner and feel they should be able to express their feelings.

    Sadly their banner wasnt fire-retardant and blocked advertising.
    Neither of which is cause to be dragged out of the ground, so which bit has been blown out of proportion?

    The young lad wasn't dragged out. He walked out on his own.
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    PopIcon said:

    cafckev said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    Blown out of proportion, this happened right on front of my eyes.

    Happened in front of me, not sure what part of grabbing a customer by the scruff of the neck is acceptable.
    I never said it was acceptable, I just said the whole thing had been blown out of proportion.

    I support the person with the banner and feel they should be able to express their feelings.

    Sadly their banner wasnt fire-retardant and blocked advertising.
    Neither of which is cause to be dragged out of the ground, so which bit has been blown out of proportion?

    The young lad wasn't dragged out. He walked out on his own.
    They dragged him out we all saw it
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited January 2016
    Did anyone intervene?

    Not a judgment, but why did the stewards in question feel it was safe for them to do this?

    Perhaps an air of increased hostility at matches would make them rethink their risk assessments.
  • Tavern
    Tavern Posts: 7,678

    The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.

    Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.

    It has
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,002
    Tavern said:

    The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.

    Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.

    It has
    And it will
  • The more I read about it and what the lady has put on Facebook page the more i infuriated it is making me. I am adamant we have to have banners at the next home game.
  • Tavern
    Tavern Posts: 7,678

    The more I read about it and what the lady has put on Facebook page the more i infuriated it is making me. I am adamant we have to have banners at the next home game.

    At all stands!
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825

    The more I read about it and what the lady has put on Facebook page the more i infuriated it is making me. I am adamant we have to have banners at the next home game.

    Could you screenshot and post ?
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  • Hope you can see some of them got the worst phone in z world
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342

    The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.

    Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.

    Need to make Bristol City banner day
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    I hear the club has the whole episode on video and will review.
  • Badger
    Badger Posts: 4,842
    If you take a banner in and then keep passing it round it will be harder for the stewards to get it back, also just obstruct the stewards from getting near it, make yourself busy stand in the way play them at their own game it's OUR protest nothing to do with them.
  • JohnnyH2 said:

    The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.

    Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.

    Need to make Bristol City banner day
    More banners than Game of Thrones.
  • mrbligh
    mrbligh Posts: 3,056
    JohnnyH2 said:

    The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.

    Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.

    Need to make Bristol City banner day
    I have a serious plan. Will be making a request to the fund
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    Badger said:

    If you take a banner in and then keep passing it round it will be harder for the stewards to get it back, also just obstruct the stewards from getting near it, make yourself busy stand in the way play them at their own game it's OUR protest nothing to do with them.

    A banner being passed up and down, through the center of a block, would be a complete and utter nightmare to stop. Plus, any form of movement gets more attention, and more attention means a rather more thoughtful response.
  • PopIcon said:

    cafckev said:

    PopIcon said:

    PopIcon said:

    Blown out of proportion, this happened right on front of my eyes.

    Happened in front of me, not sure what part of grabbing a customer by the scruff of the neck is acceptable.
    I never said it was acceptable, I just said the whole thing had been blown out of proportion.

    I support the person with the banner and feel they should be able to express their feelings.

    Sadly their banner wasnt fire-retardant and blocked advertising.
    Neither of which is cause to be dragged out of the ground, so which bit has been blown out of proportion?

    The young lad wasn't dragged out. He walked out on his own.
    That's exactly what I saw from 3 rows behind.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    edited January 2016
    I heard the guy had his season ticket taken.

    I believe there is something in ground regulations banning banners of a certain size. In which case I assume the club will also be pursuing the Blackburn fans who draped a great big flag over upper Jimmy Seed plus the fans who had CAFC flags either side of N Lower (one of which I think is Seb).

    I have pics of the other flags but lack the ability to upload after a few post match beers.

    By the way, great to see/ meet lots of you today.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    I went down to the concourse to help him and it seemed to me, that there were more than one, getting ejected. Although they could have been leaving "willingly" with him, it appeared to me that the stewards were ejecting them.
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  • I went down to the concourse to help him and it seemed to me, that there were more than one, getting ejected. Although they could have been leaving "willingly" with him, it appeared to me that the stewards were ejecting them.

    His mum and brother came back but not sure if that's who you are talking about.
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,734
    I doubt the stewards wouldn't have acted on their own initiative to remove the banner, after all they wouldn't be able to see it stood at their posts in the north upper. I can only assume they have been instructed by the club safety officer who has clocked the banner from the control box. The club and stewards have a responsibility to prevent objects being thrown, pitch incursions and racist, homophobic or obscene chanting. Their is nothing in the FA's stadium safety best practice guidance about criticism of club ownership and to my mind the club have acted outside of the guidance just to prevent their own embarrassment (and only made it more embarrassing in the process).

    The club should be getting their grovelling apology to their 'customers' in order right now.
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    edited January 2016
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v22uy1bRt5E


    And LOL @ the YouTube channel it's been uploaded on.

  • rikofold
    rikofold Posts: 4,051
    Look at what it provoked - bloody ridiculous. They could have left it in place, it was hardly offensive and ludicrous to claim it as a health and safety issue - but why not just confiscate it until the final whistle? Are they oblivious to the current mood? Do we have to make it more obvious?
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,291
    Well from that video, the obvious place to put a banner is on the white border either side of the nike swoosh, cos then it's not obscuring anything :-)
  • Badger
    Badger Posts: 4,842
    Good point but it's OUR protest not theirs, Safety in numbers, keep them away from the banners,and get the message accross we can look after ourselves.
  • Stig said:

    INGSOC landscape 7

    I look forward to seeing these now, keep them coming!
  • charltonnick
    charltonnick Posts: 3,063
    You customers should realise that no form of protest will be allowed under our great leaders regime , it works in North Korea so why not The Valley , it's only 2% unhappy anyway
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    C_A_F_C said:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v22uy1bRt5E


    And LOL @ the YouTube channel it's been uploaded on.

    The relevant bit is 0:37 - playing it at full screen it does look like there's a clear snatch/grab to pull him towards the staircase, done by the (supervisor?) in the blue jacket? Doesn't seem to be anything else though, unless there was initial confrontation prior to filming?