Outrageous behaviour from our stewards today.
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The young lad wasn't dragged out. He walked out on his own.cafckev said:
Neither of which is cause to be dragged out of the ground, so which bit has been blown out of proportion?PopIcon said:
I never said it was acceptable, I just said the whole thing had been blown out of proportion.guinnessaddick said:
Happened in front of me, not sure what part of grabbing a customer by the scruff of the neck is acceptable.PopIcon said:Blown out of proportion, this happened right on front of my eyes.
I support the person with the banner and feel they should be able to express their feelings.
Sadly their banner wasnt fire-retardant and blocked advertising.0 -
They dragged him out we all saw itPopIcon said:
The young lad wasn't dragged out. He walked out on his own.cafckev said:
Neither of which is cause to be dragged out of the ground, so which bit has been blown out of proportion?PopIcon said:
I never said it was acceptable, I just said the whole thing had been blown out of proportion.guinnessaddick said:
Happened in front of me, not sure what part of grabbing a customer by the scruff of the neck is acceptable.PopIcon said:Blown out of proportion, this happened right on front of my eyes.
I support the person with the banner and feel they should be able to express their feelings.
Sadly their banner wasnt fire-retardant and blocked advertising.5 -
Did anyone intervene?
Not a judgment, but why did the stewards in question feel it was safe for them to do this?
Perhaps an air of increased hostility at matches would make them rethink their risk assessments.0 -
The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.
Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.45 -
It hasAirman Brown said:The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.
Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.2 -
Blimey, that be the first case of the regime wanting to talk with a proper fan then. Hallelujah, they've seen the light!Airman Brown said:The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.
Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.30 -
And it willTavern said:
It hasAirman Brown said:The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.
Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.1 -
The more I read about it and what the lady has put on Facebook page the more i infuriated it is making me. I am adamant we have to have banners at the next home game.5
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At all stands!NomadicAddick said:The more I read about it and what the lady has put on Facebook page the more i infuriated it is making me. I am adamant we have to have banners at the next home game.
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Could you screenshot and post ?NomadicAddick said:The more I read about it and what the lady has put on Facebook page the more i infuriated it is making me. I am adamant we have to have banners at the next home game.
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Need to make Bristol City banner dayAirman Brown said:The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.
Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.
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I hear the club has the whole episode on video and will review.6
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If you take a banner in and then keep passing it round it will be harder for the stewards to get it back, also just obstruct the stewards from getting near it, make yourself busy stand in the way play them at their own game it's OUR protest nothing to do with them.6
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More banners than Game of Thrones.JohnnyH2 said:
Need to make Bristol City banner dayAirman Brown said:The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.
Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.5 -
I have a serious plan. Will be making a request to the fundJohnnyH2 said:
Need to make Bristol City banner dayAirman Brown said:The club is unlikely to ban anyone over this unless the steward was assaulted. It's standard practice to force the fan to have a discussion with the club, but it doesn't mean he'll be banned. He'll get his ticket back. If the steward assaulted the fan, I agree it should be pursued.
Watching from the east stand, it seemed like a silly over-reaction by the club that could have provoked more trouble than it did. The banner was harmless. The advertising excuse is so much nonsense. If the club wanted to provoke fans into bringing many more banners in future, well, it just did.4 -
A banner being passed up and down, through the center of a block, would be a complete and utter nightmare to stop. Plus, any form of movement gets more attention, and more attention means a rather more thoughtful response.Badger said:If you take a banner in and then keep passing it round it will be harder for the stewards to get it back, also just obstruct the stewards from getting near it, make yourself busy stand in the way play them at their own game it's OUR protest nothing to do with them.
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That's exactly what I saw from 3 rows behind.PopIcon said:
The young lad wasn't dragged out. He walked out on his own.cafckev said:
Neither of which is cause to be dragged out of the ground, so which bit has been blown out of proportion?PopIcon said:
I never said it was acceptable, I just said the whole thing had been blown out of proportion.guinnessaddick said:
Happened in front of me, not sure what part of grabbing a customer by the scruff of the neck is acceptable.PopIcon said:Blown out of proportion, this happened right on front of my eyes.
I support the person with the banner and feel they should be able to express their feelings.
Sadly their banner wasnt fire-retardant and blocked advertising.0 -
I heard the guy had his season ticket taken.
I believe there is something in ground regulations banning banners of a certain size. In which case I assume the club will also be pursuing the Blackburn fans who draped a great big flag over upper Jimmy Seed plus the fans who had CAFC flags either side of N Lower (one of which I think is Seb).
I have pics of the other flags but lack the ability to upload after a few post match beers.
By the way, great to see/ meet lots of you today.5 -
I went down to the concourse to help him and it seemed to me, that there were more than one, getting ejected. Although they could have been leaving "willingly" with him, it appeared to me that the stewards were ejecting them.0
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His mum and brother came back but not sure if that's who you are talking about.Covered End said:I went down to the concourse to help him and it seemed to me, that there were more than one, getting ejected. Although they could have been leaving "willingly" with him, it appeared to me that the stewards were ejecting them.
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I doubt the stewards wouldn't have acted on their own initiative to remove the banner, after all they wouldn't be able to see it stood at their posts in the north upper. I can only assume they have been instructed by the club safety officer who has clocked the banner from the control box. The club and stewards have a responsibility to prevent objects being thrown, pitch incursions and racist, homophobic or obscene chanting. Their is nothing in the FA's stadium safety best practice guidance about criticism of club ownership and to my mind the club have acted outside of the guidance just to prevent their own embarrassment (and only made it more embarrassing in the process).
The club should be getting their grovelling apology to their 'customers' in order right now.1 -
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Look at what it provoked - bloody ridiculous. They could have left it in place, it was hardly offensive and ludicrous to claim it as a health and safety issue - but why not just confiscate it until the final whistle? Are they oblivious to the current mood? Do we have to make it more obvious?8
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Well from that video, the obvious place to put a banner is on the white border either side of the nike swoosh, cos then it's not obscuring anything :-)4
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Good point but it's OUR protest not theirs, Safety in numbers, keep them away from the banners,and get the message accross we can look after ourselves.2
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I look forward to seeing these now, keep them coming!Stig said:4 -
You customers should realise that no form of protest will be allowed under our great leaders regime , it works in North Korea so why not The Valley , it's only 2% unhappy anyway3
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The relevant bit is 0:37 - playing it at full screen it does look like there's a clear snatch/grab to pull him towards the staircase, done by the (supervisor?) in the blue jacket? Doesn't seem to be anything else though, unless there was initial confrontation prior to filming?C_A_F_C said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v22uy1bRt5E
And LOL @ the YouTube channel it's been uploaded on.2