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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,279
    edited June 2015

    Think Uncle Roland is a total different kettle of fish. He's a bad arse buisnessman and I suspect he will not sell his treasure cheaply.

    But if he has to, I hope the angst sickly feeling at the bottom of the stomach when ever we get ripped off by the big boys (or even smaller boys...) is not there this time.

    The same Roland that gave Morrison to Birmingham.
    People like to blame RD for a lot of things but I'm 99% sure that was Peeters decision.
    To let him go yes but the transfer fee wouldn't have been.

    Think Uncle Roland is a total different kettle of fish. He's a bad arse buisnessman and I suspect he will not sell his treasure cheaply.

    But if he has to, I hope the angst sickly feeling at the bottom of the stomach when ever we get ripped off by the big boys (or even smaller boys...) is not there this time.

    The same Roland that gave Morrison to Birmingham.
    People like to blame RD for a lot of things but I'm 99% sure that was Peeters decision.
    To move him on yes, but the fee?
    Ok but If it meant getting him off the wage bill quick and Birmingham the only side interested then it's not the worst decision in the world.
    I agree, far from the worst decision in the world but not up there with one of the best either so not real evidence of RD being a great wheeler, dealer in the transfer market.

    Personally I don't think RD is directly to blame for the bizarre deals done. That I lay squarely on the shoulder of Karel Fraeye but RD employs him.

    Also I think it is easy to say "Gomez is worth £5m or £10m" on here but if that is not what is being offered by Liverpool or anyone then he's not worth that much.

    I would hate to see him go for £3m but if that is the best they can do maybe it was the best they can do. I'm more worried about how Fraeye will be allowed to spend it.
  • 3million for one of the best prospects in the country. Well done charlton.

    Isn't that roughly the same amount we paid for Igor lololol

    Except it hasn't actually happened yet and no one at the club has mentioned it.
  • addick1965
    addick1965 Posts: 5,092
    Sorry 3m is peanuts..we need cold hard cash not bloody add-ons,this had better be a load of bollocks.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    If it happens it will be undisclosed and will promote frantic discussions about how much it really is.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Spend a moment looking at the deals Liverpool have been involved with in recent years, ins and outs, and what they hope for from players, chuck in the new premiership deal too. THREE million is absolute crazy in that context, crazy.
    The absolute minimum ought to be £10, plus loan back, plus add ons, plus a percentage of future profit.
    Roland demonstrated he wouldn't be dicked around over Delort, if Liverpool get Gomez for £3mil then Liverpool will have made a fool of Roland and Charlton Athletic.
    Sorry I absolutely feel this way, and anyway it would be foolish to sell Gomez at all this summer for loads of reasons, not least from the players perspective.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,656
    3 million seems cheap but depends on how well the add on fees mount up. Joe is far to young to make a breakthrough there so if Liverpool are paying his wages for a loan back for one even two seasons then the deal starts to look different. Let's wait and see although I doubt we ever find out the real figures involved.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,492

    Genuinely reckon you could double/near on treble that fee with a solid cemented season for us, him playing for us on loan after signing for Liv circa 3M he'd have probably doubled in value before he's even set foot at Anfield. Would be very shrewd business if LFC manage it, and pretty poor from RD cashing in his chips this early if so.

    Maybe he's put in a transfer request and said he wants to move. All well and good saying he'll be worth much more next year, but if the player wants to go there isn't much you can do.
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  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,494
    Crikey being a Charlton supporter is hard a lot of the time, in the Summer it is usually worse than ever. RM and RD both said we have in the past sold off our youngsters too early and too cheaply. Enjoy the sun and wait until real news breaks......as someone on here loves to say "I will believe it when it is on the OS."
  • Too many fishermen on this thread for my liking.

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  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,788
    edited June 2015
    @transf_min: O defesa central alemão, Patrick Bauer, está de saída do Marítimo e muito perto de assinar pelo Charlton Athletic. http://t.co/0wELieD8cv

    @(null): The German central defence, Patrick Bauer, is leaving the sea and very close to signing for Charlton Athletic.

    http://www.madeirafutebol.com/alemao-patrick-bauer-a-caminho-do-charlton/
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    edited June 2015

    Genuinely reckon you could double/near on treble that fee with a solid cemented season for us, him playing for us on loan after signing for Liv circa 3M he'd have probably doubled in value before he's even set foot at Anfield. Would be very shrewd business if LFC manage it, and pretty poor from RD cashing in his chips this early if so.

    Maybe he's put in a transfer request and said he wants to move. All well and good saying he'll be worth much more next year, but if the player wants to go there isn't much you can do.
    And loan back to us next season? That's a strange transfer request if the rumour is to be believed. JG would stay here this season if he's not forced out the front door, couldn't guarantee much more/longer than that in modern day football.

    Also there is more you can do, if the 3m figure is to be believed, give or take add-ons, for an 18 year old versatible English CB of his calibre, even now you're not being far fetched sticking a 5M tag, not far fetched at all. To put that in perspective, that's less than 35 weeks of James Milners perspective wages at LFC to sign him. Buying a gold bar for chocolate coins in comparison value 3M for JG would be.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,279
    sammy391 said:

    @transf_min: O defesa central alemão, Patrick Bauer, está de saída do Marítimo e muito perto de assinar pelo Charlton Athletic. http://t.co/0wELieD8cv

    @(null): The German central defence, Patrick Bauer, is leaving the sea and very close to signing for Charlton Athletic.

    http://www.madeirafutebol.com/alemao-patrick-bauer-a-caminho-do-charlton/

    6' 4" and 22 YO

    Deal done in 24 hours I hear ; - )
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,823
    sammy391 said:

    @transf_min: O defesa central alemão, Patrick Bauer, está de saída do Marítimo e muito perto de assinar pelo Charlton Athletic. http://t.co/0wELieD8cv

    @(null): The German central defence, Jack Bauer, is leaving the sea and very close to signing for Charlton Athletic.

    http://www.madeirafutebol.com/alemao-patrick-bauer-a-caminho-do-charlton/

    I give this rumour 24 hours.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,083
    Someone fire up FM and get his stats
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,279

    sammy391 said:

    @transf_min: O defesa central alemão, Patrick Bauer, está de saída do Marítimo e muito perto de assinar pelo Charlton Athletic. http://t.co/0wELieD8cv

    @(null): The German central defence, Jack Bauer, is leaving the sea and very close to signing for Charlton Athletic.

    http://www.madeirafutebol.com/alemao-patrick-bauer-a-caminho-do-charlton/

    I give this rumour 24 hours.
    too late : - )
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,381
    Gomez has signed on for three years from October 2014 .. if he develops at the same rate that he has so far, he could be a 15/20/25/30 million pound player in 2017 and he'd still be only 21/22 years old .. unless there is a desperate need for some quick cash, it would be a nonsense to sell him now .. he's worth more to us now than 3/5/7 million .. I say again, unless there is a desperate need for the owner to raise some cash
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,823

    sammy391 said:

    @transf_min: O defesa central alemão, Patrick Bauer, está de saída do Marítimo e muito perto de assinar pelo Charlton Athletic. http://t.co/0wELieD8cv

    @(null): The German central defence, Jack Bauer, is leaving the sea and very close to signing for Charlton Athletic.

    http://www.madeirafutebol.com/alemao-patrick-bauer-a-caminho-do-charlton/

    I give this rumour 24 hours.
    too late : - )
    Arse. :smile:
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,829
    boogica said:

    It's around 3m and a loan back ..

    Heard it's a bit more
    + add ons ie England , champions league etc
    That'd be very shrewd indeed, seen as they never bloody qualify for it.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,279

    sammy391 said:

    @transf_min: O defesa central alemão, Patrick Bauer, está de saída do Marítimo e muito perto de assinar pelo Charlton Athletic. http://t.co/0wELieD8cv

    @(null): The German central defence, Jack Bauer, is leaving the sea and very close to signing for Charlton Athletic.

    http://www.madeirafutebol.com/alemao-patrick-bauer-a-caminho-do-charlton/

    I give this rumour 24 hours.
    too late : - )
    Arse. :smile:
    You got all the LOLs though ; - )

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  • sammy391 said:

    @transf_min: O defesa central alemão, Patrick Bauer, está de saída do Marítimo e muito perto de assinar pelo Charlton Athletic. http://t.co/0wELieD8cv

    @(null): The German central defence, Patrick Bauer, is leaving the sea and very close to signing for Charlton Athletic.

    http://www.madeirafutebol.com/alemao-patrick-bauer-a-caminho-do-charlton/

    He'd best get his skates on before we change our mind.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,342
    Wants to swap Madeira for South East London? Must be mental, but wouldnt he be the first (?) German Charlton player
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Dietmar Bruck, i seem to remember, he was pants.
  • gilbertfilbert
    gilbertfilbert Posts: 2,282
    edited June 2015
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  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,494
    dickplumb said:

    Dietmar Bruck, i seem to remember, he was pants.

    What was so memorable about his undergarments? ;)
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    If my next door neighbour has bought the house I rent from my landlord and intends to double my rent before evicting me before moving in his family I will be bloody furious.

    He says he has no intention of buying the house and doesn't know what I am talking about.

    We'll see.
  • Addickted2U
    Addickted2U Posts: 3,089

    If Gomez goes for £5-10m+ it could pay for a complete overall of the squad and push us up the table.

    Knowing us though he'll probably go for £1m tops.

    These are probably the most expensive overalls in the world. Don't think wearing them would push us up the table though!
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,218
    I'm so sick of this add-on nonsense. We're not in a catastrophic financial situation so we don't have to be dictated to by anyone else and we've got Gomez down to a decent length contract. With that in mind it makes absolutely no sense to allow some of the payment you receive for your prize asset to be conditional. Getting £3m and then (let's just say) £1m if Liverpool qualify for the Champions League and £1m if Gomez gets an England cap and £1mif Gomez plays 10 games in two years is just inviting missing out on a fee. At best we won't see the Champions League qualification money for another season, and it's far from guaranteed Liverpool will even get there. Roland should tell Liverpool to do one if they don't meet our valuation and it should be high. If bloody Palace can get £10 million for Zaha and decent money for John Bostock and Victor Moses we should be able to hold out for enough to rebuild the squad
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,823

    sammy391 said:

    @transf_min: O defesa central alemão, Patrick Bauer, está de saída do Marítimo e muito perto de assinar pelo Charlton Athletic. http://t.co/0wELieD8cv

    @(null): The German central defence, Jack Bauer, is leaving the sea and very close to signing for Charlton Athletic.

    http://www.madeirafutebol.com/alemao-patrick-bauer-a-caminho-do-charlton/

    I give this rumour 24 hours.
    too late : - )
    Arse. :smile:
    You got all the LOLs though ; - )
    And you got the likes - does that mean you're nice, but I'm funny? :smile:
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,279

    sammy391 said:

    @transf_min: O defesa central alemão, Patrick Bauer, está de saída do Marítimo e muito perto de assinar pelo Charlton Athletic. http://t.co/0wELieD8cv

    @(null): The German central defence, Jack Bauer, is leaving the sea and very close to signing for Charlton Athletic.

    http://www.madeirafutebol.com/alemao-patrick-bauer-a-caminho-do-charlton/

    I give this rumour 24 hours.
    too late : - )
    Arse. :smile:
    You got all the LOLs though ; - )
    And you got the likes - does that mean you're nice, but I'm funny? :smile:
    Must be : - (
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