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Carl Jenkinson - 12 million quid!

Mendonca In Asdas
Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
in Other Football and Sports
Did we include any sell ons when we sold him to Arsenal, if so could help Roland's transfer kitty.

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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    edited January 2015
    Unfortunately you're dreaming, Mendonca.


    Jenkinson was out of contract when Arsenal signed him - so no registration transfer fee was payable.

    What we got was £1mill or so, young player development fee, as he was under 23.
    Never heard of a sell-on clause with that.



  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    Oggy Red said:

    Unfortunately you're dreaming, Mendonca.


    Jenkinson was out of contract when Arsenal signed him - so no registration transfer fee was payable.

    What we got was £1mill or so, young player development fee, as he was under 23.
    Never heard of a sell-on clause with that.



    I believe we negotiated a sell on clause with West Ham for Poyet - so it is possible. I could be wrong there though.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Oggy Red said:

    Unfortunately you're dreaming, Mendonca.


    Jenkinson was out of contract when Arsenal signed him - so no registration transfer fee was payable.

    What we got was £1mill or so, young player development fee, as he was under 23.
    Never heard of a sell-on clause with that.



    is that not how Bournemouth got money from Lallana
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    I blame Katrien and Roland
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Mendonca In Asdas said:

    Did we include any sell ons when we sold him to Arsenal, if so could help Roland's pocket.

    http://www.westhamonline.net/forum_flat.php?7728422||mc=w||

  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,423
    I doubt a sell on fee was sought.
    A few months prior to him going to arsenal, we'd deemed him Eastbourne borough level.
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,251
    It was a straightforward transfer I think.If there was no sell on clause the sellers must have been total idiots.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    I still think Chris Solly is the better player. I'm not joking.
  • ads
    ads Posts: 3,224
    paulbaconsarnie said:

    I doubt a sell on fee was sought.
    A few months prior to him going to arsenal, we'd deemed him Eastbourne borough level.

    We seem to have that effect on most players
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,598
    bobmunro said:

    Oggy Red said:

    Unfortunately you're dreaming, Mendonca.


    Jenkinson was out of contract when Arsenal signed him - so no registration transfer fee was payable.

    What we got was £1mill or so, young player development fee, as he was under 23.
    Never heard of a sell-on clause with that.



    I believe we negotiated a sell on clause with West Ham for Poyet - so it is possible. I could be wrong there though.
    Should have gone for loan on clause.
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Southbank said:

    It was a straightforward transfer I think.If there was no sell on clause the sellers must have been total idiots.

    Most people on this board didn't rate him at the time...
  • Norfolk_Addick
    Norfolk_Addick Posts: 2,289
    killerandflash said:

    Southbank said:

    It was a straightforward transfer I think.If there was no sell on clause the sellers must have been total idiots.

    Most people on this board didn't rate him at the time...
    It was 4 years ago when he was 18
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    The Red Robin said:

    I still think Chris Solly is the better player. I'm not joking.

    Solly's problem (and our benefit) is that he's not tall enough (So teams dont want to give him a chance) not to mention his knees, if he was as tall as Jenkinson and was injury free then he'd be England's Right Back in my opinion
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited January 2015
    I rate him, and the move to West Ham has seen him really push on and develop. But 12m? crazy price.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    The Red Robin said:

    I still think Chris Solly is the better player. I'm not joking.

    I know where you're coming from. Solly is more accomplished. Sadly, with the injury problem, I'm not so sure he will reach the level he deserves to. Bit like RIchard Rufus. Obviously want him to stay at Charlton, but I'd certainly not begrudge him a premiership move.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    The Red Robin said:

    I still think Chris Solly is the better player. I'm not joking.

    I'd have agreed before he got this knee issue. Jenkinson is better going forward, no doubt
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    ForeverAddickted said:

    The Red Robin said:

    I still think Chris Solly is the better player. I'm not joking.

    Solly's problem (and our benefit) is that he's not tall enough (So teams dont want to give him a chance) not to mention his knees, if he was as tall as Jenkinson and was injury free then he'd be England's Right Back in my opinion
    Totally agree. Before Hodgson finally picked Clyne England were desperate for a decent right back. Solly would have been a shoe-in were not for his injury problems.
    ricky_otto said:

    The Red Robin said:

    I still think Chris Solly is the better player. I'm not joking.

    I know where you're coming from. Solly is more accomplished. Sadly, with the injury problem, I'm not so sure he will reach the level he deserves to. Bit like RIchard Rufus. Obviously want him to stay at Charlton, but I'd certainly not begrudge him a premiership move.
    And for this reason. We're very lucky to still have him. I wouldn't begrudge him the move he deserves whatsoever.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Norfolk_Addick said:

    killerandflash said:

    Southbank said:

    It was a straightforward transfer I think.If there was no sell on clause the sellers must have been total idiots.

    Most people on this board didn't rate him at the time...
    It was 4 years ago when he was 18
    When Arsenal bought him, the general consensus was why, and most people here thought £1m was a decent fee for him
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    killerandflash said:

    Norfolk_Addick said:

    killerandflash said:

    Southbank said:

    It was a straightforward transfer I think.If there was no sell on clause the sellers must have been total idiots.

    Most people on this board didn't rate him at the time...
    It was 4 years ago when he was 18
    When Arsenal bought him, the general consensus was why, and most people here thought £1m was a decent fee for him
    Not forgetting he only actually played about 7 games, so that fee probably was good at the time.

    More fed up we only got 1.6m (? May have been 1.9) for Shelvey.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,730
    12 Mil for Jenkinson ?.

    The world has finally gone mad.
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    ricky_otto said:

    killerandflash said:

    Norfolk_Addick said:

    killerandflash said:

    Southbank said:

    It was a straightforward transfer I think.If there was no sell on clause the sellers must have been total idiots.

    Most people on this board didn't rate him at the time...
    It was 4 years ago when he was 18
    When Arsenal bought him, the general consensus was why, and most people here thought £1m was a decent fee for him
    Not forgetting he only actually played about 7 games, so that fee probably was good at the time.

    More fed up we only got 1.6m (? May have been 1.9) for Shelvey.
    Thing in Shelvey's career has very much stalled whilst Jenkinson going to West Ham has seen his flourish a bit, wouldnt be surprised if Carl and Clyne were England's first choice in that department soon
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Bedsaddick said:

    12 Mil for Jenkinson ?.

    The world has finally gone mad.

    No. Great player.

    What would be stupid is for Arsenal to sell him. He is going to be one of the best so they should keep him on the books.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    this £12 Million is just Arsenals valuation not what West Ham will pay, arsenal probably only done that to put west ham off and if west ham are stupid enough to pay it then arsenal are laughing
  • Addick in SW16
    Addick in SW16 Posts: 1,421
    ForeverAddickted said:

    The Red Robin said:

    I still think Chris Solly is the better player. I'm not joking.

    Solly's problem (and our benefit) is that he's not tall enough (So teams dont want to give him a chance) not to mention his knees, if he was as tall as Jenkinson and was injury free then he'd be England's Right Back in my opinion

    I didn't realise height was such a big factor. I can see it being an advantage but some of the best full backs I've seen are small. This is coming from a man who is 5ft 7 though.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Addick in SW16 said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    The Red Robin said:

    I still think Chris Solly is the better player. I'm not joking.

    Solly's problem (and our benefit) is that he's not tall enough (So teams dont want to give him a chance) not to mention his knees, if he was as tall as Jenkinson and was injury free then he'd be England's Right Back in my opinion

    I didn't realise height was such a big factor. I can see it being an advantage but some of the best full backs I've seen are small. This is coming from a man who is 5ft 7 though.
    I dont feel height is an issue either but your forever hearing of clubs who have released kids cos they're too small etc... we did it with that lad now at Peterborough from Dulwich whilst the same happened to Luke Shaw and Tyrone Mings
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    Adrian Durham's over inflated his value banging on about him on TalkSport all the time.

    I remember him doing an interview with him about a year ago. Durham kept saying next England RB. Then they had a debate about it around a month ago. Of course he didn't even mention him. More opinionated tripe from Durham. I tweeted Durham to remind him of said interview, no response.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited January 2015
    The Jenkinson fee was £1.5m, plus £250k in add-ons, plus a 15% sell-on (over and above).

    This is what funded the team building in 2012. I was sceptical about that in part because I originally believed the fee was less, but this is reliable.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    edited January 2015
    Airman Brown said:

    The Jenkinson fee was £1.5m, plus £250k in add-ons, plus a 15% sell-on.

    If there was a sell on clause I'd be shocked if the spivs didn't cash it in before they swanned off.

  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,519
    So 15% of £12M = £1.8M!

    Papa Smurf laughing all the way to the bank (as long as he can persuade those 'Appy 'Ammers to shell out...)
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited January 2015
    Airman Brown said:

    The Jenkinson fee was £1.5m, plus £250k in add-ons, plus a 15% sell-on (over and above).

    This is what funded the team building in 2012. I was sceptical about that in part because I originally believed the fee was less, but this is reliable.

    So say Arsenal do sell him for 12m, we would get roughly 1.5m of the 10.5m profit?

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