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Fed up with these two bob refs

Beckboy
Beckboy Posts: 1,682
edited October 2012 in General Charlton
All though we was bad when they miss a stone wall pen what hope you got.
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  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,328
    edited October 2012
    Can't blame the ref, how many shots on target did we have?? Awful performance
  • Gazcafc81
    Gazcafc81 Posts: 641
    I agree its every week now, but we need to be good enough ourselves. Can't keep relying on Midfielders and Defenders to score the goals.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,759
    Anyone blaming the ref for that defeat needs to take their head out of their arse. That was woeful.
  • Beckboy
    Beckboy Posts: 1,682
    So not a penalty then I know we was woeful but that doesn't excuse the refs performance
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,864
    But he did say "we was bad".
    Sometimes teams dominate, yet lose (eg CAFC v Watford) sometimes they nick an undeserved point or three.
    The fact is, any successful team is only successful because they cash in on good performances and convert a good percentage of their bad performances into results.
    We were shit today, but that penno was stonewall and may have given us an undeserved point. We've had far too many bad decisions on major incidents this season already.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,328
    lordromford said:

    But he did say "we was bad".
    Sometimes teams dominate, yet lose (eg CAFC v Watford) sometimes they nick an undeserved point or three.
    The fact is, any successful team is only successful because they cash in on good performances and convert a good percentage of their bad performances into results.
    We were shit today, but that penno was stonewall and may have given us an undeserved point. We've had far too many bad decisions on major incidents this season already.

    Teams dominate yet lose?? Watford were all over us in first half and second Half we had possession yet created nothing
  • wallin58
    wallin58 Posts: 174
    Barnsley played well and their midfield made many more penetrative runs than ours did. Didn't deserve to win and in general a hugely disappointing performance!!
  • UrbanChupacabra
    UrbanChupacabra Posts: 541
    Gonna put my neck out and say it wasnt a pen and thought he won the ball.

    For anyone thinking that the ref is stealing a living should have a look at our centre midfield
  • twiggyaddick
    twiggyaddick Posts: 1,566
    I'm more bothered about our two bob midfield
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,864
    J BLOCK said:

    lordromford said:

    But he did say "we was bad".
    Sometimes teams dominate, yet lose (eg CAFC v Watford) sometimes they nick an undeserved point or three.
    The fact is, any successful team is only successful because they cash in on good performances and convert a good percentage of their bad performances into results.
    We were shit today, but that penno was stonewall and may have given us an undeserved point. We've had far too many bad decisions on major incidents this season already.

    Teams dominate yet lose?? Watford were all over us in first half and second Half we had possession yet created nothing
    Ok, so don't use the Watford game as the example then. That's not the point. Pick a game from memory. It sometimes happens and we all know that.

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  • Gammysnr
    Gammysnr Posts: 540
    edited October 2012
    From the East Stand, def a pen and probably a red. Kerker was being constantly fouled. Very poor ref. Also was the ball over the line at the end? Looked close. Poor performance but did Ha mer make a save? One shot on target for them and six for us. Should never have lost.
  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    The ref was useless, but Barnsley were the better team. We need to be more penetrative up front.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,706
    Gammysnr at diff game to me. Barnsley by far better side, not a pen, no way did we have six shots on target, half that at best. Very poor. 4 goals in 6 home games says it all.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,328
    lordromford said:

    J BLOCK said:

    lordromford said:

    But he did say "we was bad".
    Sometimes teams dominate, yet lose (eg CAFC v Watford) sometimes they nick an undeserved point or three.
    The fact is, any successful team is only successful because they cash in on good performances and convert a good percentage of their bad performances into results.
    We were shit today, but that penno was stonewall and may have given us an undeserved point. We've had far too many bad decisions on major incidents this season already.

    Teams dominate yet lose?? Watford were all over us in first half and second Half we had possession yet created nothing
    Ok, so don't use the Watford game as the example then. That's not the point. Pick a game from memory. It sometimes happens and we all know that.
    Ok what game on recent memory have we DOMINATED and not won in recent memory??
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,999
    And their handball shout..? We were outplayed all over the pitch, in no way the ref is to blame for losing.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Very churlish to blame the ref,we were outplayed by an average Championship team.Big worry if our home form continues as it is.But knowing Charlton we will probably get something at Leeds or Wolves.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,864
    J BLOCK said:

    lordromford said:

    J BLOCK said:

    lordromford said:

    But he did say "we was bad".
    Sometimes teams dominate, yet lose (eg CAFC v Watford) sometimes they nick an undeserved point or three.
    The fact is, any successful team is only successful because they cash in on good performances and convert a good percentage of their bad performances into results.
    We were shit today, but that penno was stonewall and may have given us an undeserved point. We've had far too many bad decisions on major incidents this season already.

    Teams dominate yet lose?? Watford were all over us in first half and second Half we had possession yet created nothing
    Ok, so don't use the Watford game as the example then. That's not the point. Pick a game from memory. It sometimes happens and we all know that.
    Ok what game on recent memory have we DOMINATED and not won in recent memory??
    I don't understand how you can misread the point of a post this much.
    Do you really believe that no team has ever lost a game that they dominated?
  • Sir Chrissy
    Sir Chrissy Posts: 609
    He was not fit enough physically to ref such a game. He couldn't keep up
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Crap Ref.
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    Best refereeing performance I can remember. Just because you don't get every decision doesn't make it a poor display. The tackle on Solly that I assume has started this thread was excellent. He rightly booked Wilson for diving at the end, brought the ball back to the right place for every free-kick and showed common sense in booking Solly when we have had plenty who would have flourished the red. Sorry, but I completely disagree.

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  • Sir Chrissy
    Sir Chrissy Posts: 609
    Think you're going to be in the minority Cardinal !
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    That won't make it a poor refereeing display either! We can't blame the ref every time we lose a game. The game flowed and he called all the big decisions right as far as I am concerned for both sides.
  • DiscoCAFC
    DiscoCAFC Posts: 1,762
    The Ref was a joke but its no excuse today.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,416
    edited October 2012
    Shouldn't need a ref good or bad. 26000 home crowd. Off back of a away win we should show more cojones. I believe we are bottom 5 team atm do not see a way out.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,034
    Seemed a bit double standards to me by the ref. The penalty was maybe debatable, looked definite to me though, but a Charlton player could make a challenge and get pulled up for it, ten seconds later Barnsley make an identical challenge and not a peep. I don't expect any ref to get every single decision correct but a little consistency would be nice thanks very much.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,940
    I didn't think the ref was that bad actually. He tried to keep the game flowing with some advantages and did well not to send Solly off when he went in late on one of theirs after he'd been booked.

    Didn't have a good view of the "penalty", but he seemed well placed and pointed to the ball, so he clearly felt their guy had played it. Mind you, the booking of Wilson for diving was a shocker - he definitely got caught.

    Overall I can honestly say that the ref was the least of my worries as I was sat there.
  • Gammysnr
    Gammysnr Posts: 540
    edited October 2012
    LargeAddick said:

    Gammysnr at diff game to me. Barnsley by far better side, not a pen, no way did we have six shots on target, half that at best. Very poor. 4 goals in 6 home games says it all.

    Stephens two shots / crosses tipped over on target (37.36 & 43.09), Razak free kick saved (44.00), Stephens shot saved (49.46), Pritchard shot saved (88.25), Jackson shot saved (when the keeper dropped the ball and clawed it back)(90 +1.45). My report makes that 6, not including blocked shots as I categorise them differently for my company. Have a laugh at the BBC report - <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19939711" Barnsley dominated from start to finish, peppered the Charlton goal, Charlton had no shots in the first half only a Dale Stephens free kick (well he had two pushed over and Razak had a free kick saved). And the best one 'Charlton have failed to win any of their last five matches (I think the words 'at home' have been missed out). I would have got sacked for that report!!
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    God job him and the lino missed Fullers right hook in the first half off the ball.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,940
    Gammysnr said:

    LargeAddick said:

    Gammysnr at diff game to me. Barnsley by far better side, not a pen, no way did we have six shots on target, half that at best. Very poor. 4 goals in 6 home games says it all.

    Stephens two shots / crosses tipped over on target (37.36 & 43.09), Razak free kick saved (43.00), Stephens shot saved (49.46), Pritchard shot saved (88.25), Jackson shot saved (when the keeper dropped the ball and clawed it back)(90 +1.45). My report makes that 6, not including blocked shots as I categorise them differently for my company. Have a laugh at the BBC report -
    Gammysnr 1 Large Addick 0

    Can't argue with the facts.
  • AllLeftFoot
    AllLeftFoot Posts: 1,500
    Cardinal Sin said:

    Best refereeing performance I can remember. Just because you don't get every decision doesn't make it a poor display. The tackle on Solly that I assume has started this thread was excellent. He rightly booked Wilson for diving at the end, brought the ball back to the right place for every free-kick and showed common sense in booking Solly when we have had plenty who would have flourished the red. Sorry, but I completely disagree.

    Agree with most of that.

    Thought the bloke got the ball for the 'penalty' - although the TV replays may prove differently - and Solly could easily have got a red towards the end.



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