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  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Well some fans believe he's hiding his sexuality so it's like an implication that he's covering it up
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    Maybe some want to come out others dont----their call.
    Years ago in a 5 star hotel a butler called Paul was a good mate he was gay. Very very good looking guy, who use to join us for a drink regular, and the women panted over him. I lost count of the number of times i was asked about him and non of the women believed me that he was gay. I knew his partner Stafford who was an outragious gay man. They both thought it was funny that the women wanted Paul. One Xmas we had a massive firms party + Paul and Stafford turned up Paul in Top Hat and Tails --Staffard as a Brazilian Samba dancer !! It still makes me smile that entrance--------no one bar no one was in any doubt they were a couple after that.Their choice to make the statement, their choice to make that entrance.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,322
    Greenie Junior said:

    Well some fans believe he's hiding his sexuality so it's like an implication that he's covering it up



    You really think that they are angry that he's not being open about his sexuality? You believe that?
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    The Red Robin said:

    So because he was seen with Will Young on a night out he's automatically gay, despite the fact he's married? So none of you have friend's who are gay?

    i dont speak for everyone but i really dont. am i missing out?


  • Addicted
    Addicted Posts: 2,804
    cafcdave123 said:

    The Red Robin said:

    So because he was seen with Will Young on a night out he's automatically gay, despite the fact he's married? So none of you have friend's who are gay?

    i dont speak for everyone but i really dont. am i missing out?


    You are if you like Brazilian Samba costumes
  • RalphMilnesgut
    RalphMilnesgut Posts: 1,751
    cafcdave123 said:

    The Red Robin said:

    So because he was seen with Will Young on a night out he's automatically gay, despite the fact he's married? So none of you have friend's who are gay?

    i dont speak for everyone but i really dont. am i missing out?


    Naive maybe
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    edited August 2012
    RalphMilnesgut said:

    cafcdave123 said:

    The Red Robin said:

    So because he was seen with Will Young on a night out he's automatically gay, despite the fact he's married? So none of you have friend's who are gay?

    i dont speak for everyone but i really dont. am i missing out?


    Naive maybe
    in what sense?

  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,939
    FFS - this thread is embarrassing.

    And that Twitter geek needs a fcuking good hiding - then we'll see how brave he is. Total embarrassment.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    He's probably about 16 and thinks he's tough when he is with his mates.

    All talk.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,166
    edited August 2012
    It's interesting isn't it? If this was a thread about racism and fans on here were condoning racists songs and/or attitude towards racism, I suspect it would quickly be shut down with the members kicked-out of Charlton Life.

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  • Miserableoldgit
    Miserableoldgit Posts: 21,458
    edited August 2012



    (Edit: sorry, mis-read the comment).

  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Henry Irving said:

    Greenie Junior said:

    Well some fans believe he's hiding his sexuality so it's like an implication that he's covering it up



    You really think that they are angry that he's not being open about his sexuality? You believe that?
    Never once said that, but it's a weak link for away fans to exploit, it's what football fans do and always have done
  • tom_k
    tom_k Posts: 1,207
    Rothko said:



    This guy looks like a complete knob and a total embarrassment to Charlton
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,322
    Greenie Junior said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Greenie Junior said:

    Well some fans believe he's hiding his sexuality so it's like an implication that he's covering it up



    You really think that they are angry that he's not being open about his sexuality? You believe that?
    Never once said that, but it's a weak link for away fans to exploit, it's what football fans do and always have done
    And that makes it OK?

    And how is it a "weak link". He's not gay but even if he was being gay isn't a weak link.

    Would it be OK to taunt Billy Sharpe about his son dying as it is a "weak link"?

    Or is it OK to taunt Kevin Lisbie about living in a tree because that is a "weak link"?

    Or maybe it is just stupid bigots showing their ignorance and hatred of things they don't understand and so fear.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    Henry Irving said:

    Greenie Junior said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Greenie Junior said:

    Well some fans believe he's hiding his sexuality so it's like an implication that he's covering it up



    You really think that they are angry that he's not being open about his sexuality? You believe that?
    Never once said that, but it's a weak link for away fans to exploit, it's what football fans do and always have done
    And that makes it OK?

    And how is it a "weak link". He's not gay but even if he was being gay isn't a weak link.

    Would it be OK to taunt Billy Sharpe about his son dying as it is a "weak link"?

    Or is it OK to taunt Kevin Lisbie about living in a tree because that is a "weak link"?

    Or maybe it is just stupid bigots showing their ignorance and hatred of things they don't understand and so fear.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Greenie doesn't necessarily mean it as a "weak link", more of something that can try and affect the player's emotions and make them feel uncomfortable. Maybe just wrong use of wording, that's all?
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Yes that is what I mean Tom, Henry those other cases are a lot more serious IMO, I wouldn't join in with them songs but would with the Ambrose song, as the majority of people at Birmingham did
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,034
    sad that this thread has almost 5 times as many comments as the thread praising our support on saturday, which was top class.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,322
    edited August 2012
    Greenie Junior said:

    Yes that is what I mean Tom, Henry those other cases are a lot more serious IMO, I wouldn't join in with them songs but would with the Ambrose song, as the majority of people at Birmingham did

    Well at least you're honest enough to admit that you think singing homophobic songs is OK, sad though that is.

    And I'd seriously question if it was the majority of the people at Birmingham singing the song. The abuse maybe but not the song.
    ValleyGary said:

    sad that this thread has almost 5 times as many comments as the thread praising our support on saturday, which was top class.

    I agree
  • felthamaddict
    felthamaddict Posts: 200
    The entrance fee entitles fans to watch a football match. There is no entitlement to use abusive and discriminatory language to insult a fellow citizen - language that if used outside the fan herd would possibly land the person using it in court. To write such nonsense on a public domain website like CL. is wrong. It is not illegal to be 'gay' and it's no ones business anyway.
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Not homophobic IMO it says nothing about being gay being wrong, nor mocks it, it just exploits the player

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  • felthamaddict
    felthamaddict Posts: 200
    He seemed like a nice guy to me - he took pictures with the fans, signed autographs and tried his best. He was forced to leave because we couldn't afford his wages. He has never bad mouthed you or Charlton. He has a family and there is not anything to show he is 'gay'. I think the insults say more about the insulters than the insulted.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,322
    Greenie Junior said:

    Not homophobic IMO it says nothing about being gay being wrong, nor mocks it, it just exploits the player

    Sorry but that's just nonsense.

    The song clearly suggests that he practices homosexual activity and it clearly sung as an insult and as something the singers see as wrong.

    Being gay isn't wrong or bad but you are singing it as an insult whatever you say here.

    And if it doesn't then why do you say it exploits him and why do you sing it?
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    I sing it because it's a catchy song to put a player off that alot of people joined in on, obviously your not going to stop until you get the last word so that's me done here
  • felthamaddict
    felthamaddict Posts: 200
    Exploits the player - do you have the right to exploit anybody? For Darren it is a form of psychological abuse that he doesn't deserve. Just because you are a football 'fan' doesn't give you the right to publically insult anyone. Would you 'exploit' him if you met him in person?
  • stilladdicted
    stilladdicted Posts: 4,307
    Greenie Junior said:

    I sing it because it's a catchy song to put a player off that alot of people joined in on, obviously your not going to stop until you get the last word so that's me done here

    Small mercies have never seemed so sweet.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,322
    Its "catchy" well that's OK then.

    The lisbie song has the same "catchy" tune so that must be OK too.

    Very sad.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,515
    edited August 2012
    Greenie Junior said:

    I sing it because it's a catchy song to put a player off that alot of people joined in on, obviously your not going to stop until you get the last word so that's me done here

    How about I have the last word............."game set and match to Henry".

  • felthamaddict
    felthamaddict Posts: 200
    Maybe he might learn a little from having his views challenged for once. Singing insulting songs is bad karma: Portsmouth sing the Adams family song about the Saints and looked what has happened to Pompy. We sang 'we sent the Palace down' and look what happened to us the next season. Got to be careful what you sing, you never know how things will turn out.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,031
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    felthamaddict said:

    Maybe he might learn a little from having his views challenged for once. Singing insulting songs is bad karma: Portsmouth sing the Adams family song about the Saints and looked what has happened to Pompy. We sang 'we sent the Palace down' and look what happened to us the next season. Got to be careful what you sing, you never know how things will turn out.

    So anyone who sings the Ambrose song may end up - Sorry, bad taste and I should not make light of a serious matter at least one person has been shown to totally underestimate.
  • felthamaddict
    felthamaddict Posts: 200
    edited August 2012
    lol (quietly)
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