Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

haff5

Crispywood said:

There’s no such thing as passing or failing a medical. There’s nothing stopping you from signing or rejecting the player because of it. Medicals are there to assess current or future chances of injuries whether they are taken into consideration is completely up to the club. Burke got approved because for a minimal fee and what he can do at his best he was seen as worth the risk even if the medical flagged certain risks. Knibbs on the other hand is nearly a 2M asset. Therefore to spend that kind of money the club may not want any risks coming back from a medical. It could be the Knibbs deal has nothing to do with the medical it could be Reading changing demands although I’m sure if that was the case I’m sure Knibbs would have thrown his toys out the pram and we would have said they changed the deal to give us fans some reassurance. 

Insurance is also a big factor. You can't get insurance on a player who is flagging as having a major injury upfront.

Could you imagine the millions Chuks would have cost the club if he wasn't insured???

se9addick

haff5 said:

Crispywood said:

There’s no such thing as passing or failing a medical. There’s nothing stopping you from signing or rejecting the player because of it. Medicals are there to assess current or future chances of injuries whether they are taken into consideration is completely up to the club. Burke got approved because for a minimal fee and what he can do at his best he was seen as worth the risk even if the medical flagged certain risks. Knibbs on the other hand is nearly a 2M asset. Therefore to spend that kind of money the club may not want any risks coming back from a medical. It could be the Knibbs deal has nothing to do with the medical it could be Reading changing demands although I’m sure if that was the case I’m sure Knibbs would have thrown his toys out the pram and we would have said they changed the deal to give us fans some reassurance. 

Insurance is also a big factor. You can't get insurance on a player who is flagging as having a major injury upfront.

Could you imagine the millions Chuks would have cost the club if he wasn't insured???

In what way did insurance cover us for Chuks?

Horsfield9

se9addick said:

haff5 said:

Crispywood said:

There’s no such thing as passing or failing a medical. There’s nothing stopping you from signing or rejecting the player because of it. Medicals are there to assess current or future chances of injuries whether they are taken into consideration is completely up to the club. Burke got approved because for a minimal fee and what he can do at his best he was seen as worth the risk even if the medical flagged certain risks. Knibbs on the other hand is nearly a 2M asset. Therefore to spend that kind of money the club may not want any risks coming back from a medical. It could be the Knibbs deal has nothing to do with the medical it could be Reading changing demands although I’m sure if that was the case I’m sure Knibbs would have thrown his toys out the pram and we would have said they changed the deal to give us fans some reassurance. 

Insurance is also a big factor. You can't get insurance on a player who is flagging as having a major injury upfront.

Could you imagine the millions Chuks would have cost the club if he wasn't insured???

In what way did insurance cover us for Chuks?

Third party,  fire and theft .

NornIrishAddick

Horsfield9 said:

se9addick said:

haff5 said:

Crispywood said:

There’s no such thing as passing or failing a medical. There’s nothing stopping you from signing or rejecting the player because of it. Medicals are there to assess current or future chances of injuries whether they are taken into consideration is completely up to the club. Burke got approved because for a minimal fee and what he can do at his best he was seen as worth the risk even if the medical flagged certain risks. Knibbs on the other hand is nearly a 2M asset. Therefore to spend that kind of money the club may not want any risks coming back from a medical. It could be the Knibbs deal has nothing to do with the medical it could be Reading changing demands although I’m sure if that was the case I’m sure Knibbs would have thrown his toys out the pram and we would have said they changed the deal to give us fans some reassurance. 

Insurance is also a big factor. You can't get insurance on a player who is flagging as having a major injury upfront.

Could you imagine the millions Chuks would have cost the club if he wasn't insured???

In what way did insurance cover us for Chuks?

Third party,  fire and theft .

Yeah, but we hadn't a hope of getting cover for flood damage.

ThomasOliver3

Before the failed signing of Knibbs it was looking a very positive window especially with the promise of what was to come. I really liked the mix of experience aligned with the best of L1.

But seeing today that Wrexham are looking to add Conor Cody and Kieffer Moore and are still in for Broadhead at £7.5m to add to Windass and O'Brian, it really does show what we are against. These are all top end Championship players.

I've just seen Derby have added Rhian Brewster to Calton Morris and Agyemang.

Our window has exceeded our expectations but others are doing the same, we desperately need more creativity and quality in midfield. 

This is going to be a real fight to the death, so the Knibbs news really is a blow, these last 2-3 signings really are going to be crucial.

RoanRedNY

fenaddick said:

RedRobin said:

fenaddick said:

Red_Chester said:

Jamal Lowe leaving Sheffield Wednesday, he’s Jamaican so must be joining us 

Sheffield Wednesday have 15 days to pay him wages (doubtful I know) before he can leave. Good player but we don’t really need another LCB 

Defo not a LCB, more of a striker/winger. 

My bad, skim read OP and didn’t realise they had two Lowe’s and both wanting to/leaving

Yeah, Sheffield Wednesday are at a Lowe point.

RC_CAFC

ThomasOliver3 said:

Before the failed signing of Knibbs it was looking a very positive window especially with the promise of what was to come. I really liked the mix of experience aligned with the best of L1.

But seeing today that Wrexham are looking to add Conor Cody and Kieffer Moore and are still in for Broadhead at £7.5m to add to Windass and O'Brian, it really does show what we are against. These are all top end Championship players.

I've just seen Derby have added Rhian Brewster to Calton Morris and Agyemang.

Our window has exceeded our expectations but others are doing the same, we desperately need more creativity and quality in midfield. 

This is going to be a really fight to the death, so the Knibbs news really is a blow, these last 2-3 signings really are going to be crucial.

It makes me think that there are a couple of bigger/more established names who’ve rested on their laurels may get dragged in to the fight. Bristol City and Blackburn are two that come to mind.

We’re doing really well and if we don’t get Knibbs, then I trust we’ll find a suitable replacement for him.

charlton_hero

It doesn't sound dead.

Stu_of_Kunming

MuttleyCAFC said:

I would imagine medicals rarely don't pick up some minor issues with a player and a lot will depend on where the threshold is set by the buying club. But we don't know and quite possibly won't ever know the full facts. All we know is we wanted him then didn't in the space of a few days.

We don’t even know that we don’t want him. 

Braziliance

I hope what the new ITK man says is true, he's been reliable so far. If it's just a price, I feel there is hope. 

Reading, I can imagine will want to sell now. It won't be easy to motivate a player who was that close to a move and it falls apart, especially when it's a big move. 

In regards to him not playing pre-season, didn't Hunt actually say he hasn't been involved because of the transfer rumours and not because of an injury? Not that he might need an operation or whatever other theory

From these snippets from articles it sounds like he's working his way back to fitness and isn't crocked. Sounds like a classic case of playing almost every minute of every game for your club, getting a slight knock, and as a result, your pre-season plan is slightly altered. He's a prized asset and couldn't be risked before a potential transfer, that's how it reads from Hunt's words.

ThomasOliver3

RC_CAFC said:

ThomasOliver3 said:

Before the failed signing of Knibbs it was looking a very positive window especially with the promise of what was to come. I really liked the mix of experience aligned with the best of L1.

But seeing today that Wrexham are looking to add Conor Cody and Kieffer Moore and are still in for Broadhead at £7.5m to add to Windass and O'Brian, it really does show what we are against. These are all top end Championship players.

I've just seen Derby have added Rhian Brewster to Calton Morris and Agyemang.

Our window has exceeded our expectations but others are doing the same, we desperately need more creativity and quality in midfield. 

This is going to be a really fight to the death, so the Knibbs news really is a blow, these last 2-3 signings really are going to be crucial.

It makes me think that there are a couple of bigger/more established names who’ve rested on their laurels may get dragged in to the fight. Bristol City and Blackburn are two that come to mind.

We’re doing really well and if we don’t get Knibbs, then I trust we’ll find a suitable replacement for him.

I think we've done really well in our own little bubble, its what others are also doing that worries me now. The championship has heated up over the last week or so. 

Agreed there will always be under-achievers, I don't think it will be Bristol, maybe Blackburn, Preston Thank goodness Wednesday are in freefall and Hull although I've seen they've won all five in pre-season.

We've really improved our team, but as I said these last 2-3 will be crucial as the rest of the league is looking strong especially when you see what Brum & Wrexham are doing. 

Chunes

Wasn't there a player in recent years who came for a medical but we found they hadn't done adequate rehabilitation after a major injury... Anyone remember who it was and where they are now

Sam_777

This whole saga reeks of Reading playing silly buggers at the last minute & moving the goalposts. 

DennisBooth

Sam_777 said:

This whole saga reeks of Reading playing silly buggers at the last minute & moving the goalposts. 

I think that is right. 

TheHerminator

Sam_777 said:

This whole saga reeks of Reading playing silly buggers at the last minute & moving the goalposts. 

Really does doesn't it. Knibbs will be fuming if thats true

blackpool72

TheHerminator said:

Sam_777 said:

This whole saga reeks of Reading playing silly buggers at the last minute & moving the goalposts. 

Really does doesn't it. Knibbs will be fuming if thats true

If this is really the case then I don't think the deal is definitely off.
If Knibbs makes it clear he wants to go and his agent puts pressure on Reading they might yet come to their senses and get the deal done. 

Braziliance

The more articles and snippets that come out, the more it sounds like a financial breakdown. Bloody hope it is just that, and a deal can still be struck. As others have said, he really feels like that last missing piece in our attacking third.

ShootersHillGuru

So this is where we are now.
The deal collapsed because Dane Murphy looked over the contract and said yes.
Harvey Knibbs turned up at Sparrows for his medical on crutches. 

Reading agreed a fee of £1.8 million and at the 11th hour upped it to £5 million and a signed poster of Bananarama
The deal is stone cold dead or the corpse is still warm and might still be revived.
Delete as you feel fit.

haff5

se9addick said:

haff5 said:

Crispywood said:

There’s no such thing as passing or failing a medical. There’s nothing stopping you from signing or rejecting the player because of it. Medicals are there to assess current or future chances of injuries whether they are taken into consideration is completely up to the club. Burke got approved because for a minimal fee and what he can do at his best he was seen as worth the risk even if the medical flagged certain risks. Knibbs on the other hand is nearly a 2M asset. Therefore to spend that kind of money the club may not want any risks coming back from a medical. It could be the Knibbs deal has nothing to do with the medical it could be Reading changing demands although I’m sure if that was the case I’m sure Knibbs would have thrown his toys out the pram and we would have said they changed the deal to give us fans some reassurance. 

Insurance is also a big factor. You can't get insurance on a player who is flagging as having a major injury upfront.

Could you imagine the millions Chuks would have cost the club if he wasn't insured???

In what way did insurance cover us for Chuks?

Players are insured when they are contracted to the club. The club don't pay for every individual medical bill. 

Players have to be cleared at the Medical, for them to then be insured.

TheHerminator

haff5 said:

se9addick said:

haff5 said:

Crispywood said:

There’s no such thing as passing or failing a medical. There’s nothing stopping you from signing or rejecting the player because of it. Medicals are there to assess current or future chances of injuries whether they are taken into consideration is completely up to the club. Burke got approved because for a minimal fee and what he can do at his best he was seen as worth the risk even if the medical flagged certain risks. Knibbs on the other hand is nearly a 2M asset. Therefore to spend that kind of money the club may not want any risks coming back from a medical. It could be the Knibbs deal has nothing to do with the medical it could be Reading changing demands although I’m sure if that was the case I’m sure Knibbs would have thrown his toys out the pram and we would have said they changed the deal to give us fans some reassurance. 

Insurance is also a big factor. You can't get insurance on a player who is flagging as having a major injury upfront.

Could you imagine the millions Chuks would have cost the club if he wasn't insured???

In what way did insurance cover us for Chuks?

Players are insured when they are contracted to the club. The club don't pay for every individual medical bill. 

Players have to be cleared at the Medical, for them to then be insured.

They're also insured to cover career ending injury. Their contracts often have to be paid out and clubs don't want this burden on their books

haff5

Exactly. That's why a major/degenerative injury is such a big deal. Also you lose the value of the full transfer fee.

Knibbs is a player that relies on energy, athleticism.. IF he does have an injury, I can see why we would withdraw.

West2003

👀

Bostonaddick

ShootersHillGuru said:

So this is where we are now.
The deal collapsed because Dane Murphy looked over the contract and said yes.
Harvey Knibbs turned up at Sparrows for his medical on crutches. 

Reading agreed a fee of £1.8 million and at the 11th hour upped it to £5 million and a signed poster of Bananarama
The deal is stone cold dead or the corpse is still warm and might still be revived.
Delete as you feel fit.

I don’t think I have heard a bananarama reference since 1989.  Well done

CB1

West2003 said:

👀

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Uboat

ShootersHillGuru said:

So this is where we are now.
The deal collapsed because Dane Murphy looked over the contract and said yes.
Harvey Knibbs turned up at Sparrows for his medical on crutches. 

Reading agreed a fee of £1.8 million and at the 11th hour upped it to £5 million and a signed poster of Bananarama
The deal is stone cold dead or the corpse is still warm and might still be revived.
Delete as you feel fit.

We offered a poster of the Belle Stars, signed by five of the members, but Reading were insistent that they wouldn’t shift on that point. 

Macronate

West2003 said:

👀

The "eyes looking sideways" emoji often conveys suspicion, scepticism but can also indicate flirtation or attraction.

I'm none the wiser.

ElliotCAFC

I want a signing and I want it 5 minutes ago. 

thai malaysia addick

ShootersHillGuru said:

So this is where we are now.
The deal collapsed because Dane Murphy looked over the contract and said yes.
Harvey Knibbs turned up at Sparrows for his medical on crutches. 

Reading agreed a fee of £1.8 million and at the 11th hour upped it to £5 million and a signed poster of Bananarama
The deal is stone cold dead or the corpse is still warm and might still be revived.
Delete as you feel fit.

Another ITK person making a fool of themselves. It’s all over X that it was Kajagoogoo not Bananarama, although, admittedly, it’s an easy mistake to make.

North Lower Neil

Sam_777 said:

This whole saga reeks of Reading playing silly buggers at the last minute & moving the goalposts. 

Or someone else gazumping us maybe?

TheHerminator

North Lower Neil said:

Sam_777 said:

This whole saga reeks of Reading playing silly buggers at the last minute & moving the goalposts. 

Or someone else gazumping us maybe?

not if we pulled out of the deal as is being reported