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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours
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I’d say that’s spot on.NabySarr said:2 wing backs
1 central midfielder
1 big man striker
This is what we need, with Burke coming in also then that completes our squad. The wing back signings are the most important, we have to replace what Small gave us in pace and directness on the right. Ideally one of the wing backs is versatile enough to play both sides2 -
I mentioned Swift as a possible way back up the page, loads of experience and very good on his day .. as you say, why is he out seemingly touting for 'business' after his time at WBA ?.killerandflash said:He was a top player for Reading, and was decent for his first 2 seasons at WBA. Weird why his form dropped off so much, and that he's reduced to playing in a PFA free agent game.
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Not quite, he got close to saying something similar but stopped himself mid sentenceShootersHillGuru said:
Hasn’t Jones himself stated he’s looking for some flair in midfield ?NabySarr said:
I thought people would have learnt from last season when everyone was crying about not signing a playmaker, we didn’t need one last season in league 1 and we don’t need one now in the championship. I remember replying to the same cries, that isn’t how Jones teams create chancesShootersHillGuru said:Squad as is will be lacking in goals. Unless we can find a striker and attacking CM who instigates our attacks and regularly chips in I think we’ll struggle. We need a playmaker and goal scorer and at Championship level they are expensive. For me those are the two big ticket items we need to go and get. A RWB to replace Small is also very desirable because using Ramsay there I think is a waste of his best attributes.We need to sign a central midfielder to compete with Docherty, but it’s not going to be a playmaker. We didn’t need one in league 1 and in the championship we will have much less of the ball. If we only have the ball for 30-40% of games then I’d rather a midfielder that’s good without the ball. On our budget we aren’t going to sign a playmaker that offers what we need out of possession, much better to sign someone who is great out of possession and still an upgrade on Docherty with the ball2 -
Your only looking at another 3 coming in ..NabySarr said:2 wing backs
1 central midfielder
1 big man striker
This is what we need, with Burke coming in also then that completes our squad. The wing back signings are the most important, we have to replace what Small gave us in pace and directness on the right. Ideally one of the wing backs is versatile enough to play both sides2 -
Our owners are supposed to be very wealthy and don’t get me wrong I’m not advocating spending money in silly amounts but there is a balance between spending what’s needed to do the job and not. If we don’t actually spend “enough” to stay up then everything they and the manager have worked for over the last 18 months will be worthless. I’d suggest they don’t spoil the ship for a ha’peth of tar.NabySarr said:
I thought people would have learnt from last season when everyone was crying about not signing a playmaker, we didn’t need one last season in league 1 and we don’t need one now in the championship. I remember replying to the same cries, that isn’t how Jones teams create chancesShootersHillGuru said:Squad as is will be lacking in goals. Unless we can find a striker and attacking CM who instigates our attacks and regularly chips in I think we’ll struggle. We need a playmaker and goal scorer and at Championship level they are expensive. For me those are the two big ticket items we need to go and get. A RWB to replace Small is also very desirable because using Ramsay there I think is a waste of his best attributes.We need to sign a central midfielder to compete with Docherty, but it’s not going to be a playmaker. We didn’t need one in league 1 and in the championship we will have much less of the ball. If we only have the ball for 30-40% of games then I’d rather a midfielder that’s good without the ball. On our budget we aren’t going to sign a playmaker that offers what we need out of possession, much better to sign someone who is great out of possession and still an upgrade on Docherty with the ball4 -
Agree with the sentiments, BUT we need to spend a lot more than a ha'pethShootersHillGuru said:
Our owners are supposed to be very wealthy and don’t get me wrong I’m not advocating spending money in silly amounts but there is a balance between spending what’s needed to do the job and not. If we don’t actually spend “enough” to stay up then everything they and the manager have worked for over the last 18 months will be worthless. I’d suggest they don’t spoil the ship for a ha’peth of tar.NabySarr said:
I thought people would have learnt from last season when everyone was crying about not signing a playmaker, we didn’t need one last season in league 1 and we don’t need one now in the championship. I remember replying to the same cries, that isn’t how Jones teams create chancesShootersHillGuru said:Squad as is will be lacking in goals. Unless we can find a striker and attacking CM who instigates our attacks and regularly chips in I think we’ll struggle. We need a playmaker and goal scorer and at Championship level they are expensive. For me those are the two big ticket items we need to go and get. A RWB to replace Small is also very desirable because using Ramsay there I think is a waste of his best attributes.We need to sign a central midfielder to compete with Docherty, but it’s not going to be a playmaker. We didn’t need one in league 1 and in the championship we will have much less of the ball. If we only have the ball for 30-40% of games then I’d rather a midfielder that’s good without the ball. On our budget we aren’t going to sign a playmaker that offers what we need out of possession, much better to sign someone who is great out of possession and still an upgrade on Docherty with the ball2 -
Always seemed to work well for CurbsGravesend_Addick said:I know a lot of people see us signing players from Luton as just Jones picking up his mates from his old club, but we don't have the budget to sign proven, established Championship players, so we're picking off the best players from a club that need to sell, who have Championship & even Premier league experience as well as League 1 players who have the potential to improve from other league 1 clubs.
I think it's shrewd business, but perhaps I'm in the minority. I guess time will tell.1 -
Would love that but feel Dolan will be looking at sides toward the top of the champMrBurns said:Not a rumour but it might be worth looking at Tyrhys Dolan. A free agent and can play as a winger with loads of championship experience1 -
Dolan to one of the relegated 3 would make sense.
Wouldn't Blackburn be due compensation too?1 -
Yeah they would, they offered him a Contract in MayMarcusH26 said:Dolan to one of the relegated 3 would make sense.
Wouldn't Blackburn be due compensation too?0 -
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YannTheMann said:
Would love that but feel Dolan will be looking at sides toward the top of the champMrBurns said:Not a rumour but it might be worth looking at Tyrhys Dolan. A free agent and can play as a winger with loads of championship experience
Dolan's wage demands would be far too high as already stated by a Turkish suitor.0 -
I still think Mpanzu will be coming in. He might be this years teddy bishop and go to slovina0
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AberystwythAddick said:I still think Mpanzu will be coming in. He might be this years teddy bishop and go to slovina
I had forgotten about Teddy boy.
Let's try not to bash the Bishop so early in the day !7 -
No chance. Wasn’t deemed good enough for Luton last season - got loaned out and didn’t impress for Rotherham.AberystwythAddick said:I still think Mpanzu will be coming in. He might be this years teddy bishop and go to slovina4 -
I’m not so sure. Jones seems to be big on tempo setters, people that know how he wants to play and how he wants to train. Now I think how we played last season was jones working with what he had. Moving forward he probably wants to revert to how his Luton sides played, which is why he needs people like Hylton, Mpanzu and Bell, they all know what is required and how to be successful in a jones sidearny23394 said:
No chance. Wasn’t deemed good enough for Luton last season - got loaned out and didn’t impress for Rotherham.AberystwythAddick said:I still think Mpanzu will be coming in. He might be this years teddy bishop and go to slovina0 -
I think if we look at the team we are relatively sorted with goalkeepers nothing more needed in defence bar RWB im not displeased with Burke either, i think it is a pretty Solid defence for the league. Midfield i think a number 8 and maybe a creative midfielder is needed. And to end it off i would love a winger and striker. I would say 4 good signings needed excluding Burke.
The issue is when we look at this team Jones likes to play high energetic football he likes players with an engine players who will give 100% and i think that's why we were so successful last season. We are not going to be bringing in the names as such we will bring in players that suit his system i love players like rak-sakyi but truthfully we saw him play in league one he was lazy, a magician on the ball but lazy never tracked back but was great infront of goal and that's not to say i wouldnt take him cos in all honesty i would in a hearbeat . I feel like its easy to say that players like doc, Anderson wont cut it in this division but with there engines there pressing ability will cause problems, perhaps not glamourous footballers but they never backed out of a challenge and always gave 100% they make 2-3 mistakes a game higher up the pitch but they make 2-3 big interceptions too.
So i think its critical to look at players we bring in and understand they are brought in for a reason to fit a system i personally dont think players like Kellor dunn will be a good investment he's had a good season but for 2-3 million we should put money into a galbraith type player. Someone young, hungry and energetic will battle and will really benefit us.
Realistically i would say the 4 i would be looking at are:
Yan Valery- Sheffield wed
Djedi Gassama- Sheffield Wed
Josh dasilva- free agent
Harvey knibbs- reading
I think these 4 would be perfect for us with the addition of a couple loans I really believe this would make us a serious team in the championship.
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Would take Harvey Knibbs or Savage at Reading.17
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I can't see the price Reading would want for Knibbs being that different to what the realistic price for DKD would be. Think now Reading have solid ownership they'll up the fee.3
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You said yourself a playmaker that can create chances is not cheap. If you want to sign one that can do that and also do everything we need them to do without the ball to a very good level then that’s just not realistic for a first year championship signing.ShootersHillGuru said:
Our owners are supposed to be very wealthy and don’t get me wrong I’m not advocating spending money in silly amounts but there is a balance between spending what’s needed to do the job and not. If we don’t actually spend “enough” to stay up then everything they and the manager have worked for over the last 18 months will be worthless. I’d suggest they don’t spoil the ship for a ha’peth of tar.NabySarr said:
I thought people would have learnt from last season when everyone was crying about not signing a playmaker, we didn’t need one last season in league 1 and we don’t need one now in the championship. I remember replying to the same cries, that isn’t how Jones teams create chancesShootersHillGuru said:Squad as is will be lacking in goals. Unless we can find a striker and attacking CM who instigates our attacks and regularly chips in I think we’ll struggle. We need a playmaker and goal scorer and at Championship level they are expensive. For me those are the two big ticket items we need to go and get. A RWB to replace Small is also very desirable because using Ramsay there I think is a waste of his best attributes.We need to sign a central midfielder to compete with Docherty, but it’s not going to be a playmaker. We didn’t need one in league 1 and in the championship we will have much less of the ball. If we only have the ball for 30-40% of games then I’d rather a midfielder that’s good without the ball. On our budget we aren’t going to sign a playmaker that offers what we need out of possession, much better to sign someone who is great out of possession and still an upgrade on Docherty with the ballIf we sign a playmaker that can’t do the off ball stuff then we will go backwards, off the ball is a lot more important than on the ball to us, even more so in the championship.5 -
And the joker in the pack which is Joe GomezOh Eddie Youds... said:
Agree + Reece Burke on top of that.MarcusH26 said:Looking at that I'd still want RWB,2 quality CMs another Striker at least.
I expect getting all of these relies on us finding new homes for Ahadme, Alex Mitchell & Terry Taylor though.3 -
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I think if we start the campaign with a view to just stopping the opposition from playing we’ll come unstuck big time. If you don’t have the ball you can’t score a goal. We practiced that to some extent last season with success but The Championship is a different kettle of fish. Conceding possession for 90 minutes and pure hard work will imho fail more often than it succeeds.NabySarr said:
You said yourself a playmaker that can create chances is not cheap. If you want to sign one that can do that and also do everything we need them to do without the ball to a very good level then that’s just not realistic for a first year championship signing.ShootersHillGuru said:
Our owners are supposed to be very wealthy and don’t get me wrong I’m not advocating spending money in silly amounts but there is a balance between spending what’s needed to do the job and not. If we don’t actually spend “enough” to stay up then everything they and the manager have worked for over the last 18 months will be worthless. I’d suggest they don’t spoil the ship for a ha’peth of tar.NabySarr said:
I thought people would have learnt from last season when everyone was crying about not signing a playmaker, we didn’t need one last season in league 1 and we don’t need one now in the championship. I remember replying to the same cries, that isn’t how Jones teams create chancesShootersHillGuru said:Squad as is will be lacking in goals. Unless we can find a striker and attacking CM who instigates our attacks and regularly chips in I think we’ll struggle. We need a playmaker and goal scorer and at Championship level they are expensive. For me those are the two big ticket items we need to go and get. A RWB to replace Small is also very desirable because using Ramsay there I think is a waste of his best attributes.We need to sign a central midfielder to compete with Docherty, but it’s not going to be a playmaker. We didn’t need one in league 1 and in the championship we will have much less of the ball. If we only have the ball for 30-40% of games then I’d rather a midfielder that’s good without the ball. On our budget we aren’t going to sign a playmaker that offers what we need out of possession, much better to sign someone who is great out of possession and still an upgrade on Docherty with the ballIf we sign a playmaker that can’t do the off ball stuff then we will go backwards, off the ball is a lot more important than on the ball to us, even more so in the championship.5 -
YAN VALERY asked my mate about him - who is a longtime suffering Southampton fan about his time at the Saints he said he always thought he had potential but he was a bit inconsistent for them will be it was young then a decent championship player he thinks
Maybe we are waiting until after the 15th July - when players are allowed to leave their contract at the "Massives" because they have broken a clause of continued months on late payments in wages
Watch this space...a nice signing on fee and close proximity to airports might sway it for the 27 years old0 -
Yann897 said:Would take Harvey Knibbs or Savage at Reading.
Harvey Knibbs had 14 goals and 6 assists as an attacking midfielder for Reading and at 26 will be able to step up.
If we have Three possible numbers 10's in Berry, Carey and his Knibbs, great as we need that in our 20 man squad as well as the 16 players who may get on the field during the match. The days have long gone since the 11 chosen to start a match will finish the match.
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Are we not past that now though? Jones brought in people he had worked with before to set an example for what we felt was a very young team with a new core who didn't know his methods. Berry, Hylton, Potts, ACampbell were there to do that but but now there's been a full season of playing and training the way Jones wants to good effect it's less important. Docherty, Coventry, Jones, Edwards, Gillesphey and Godden are all senior players who have had that example set and will be able to continue to squad mentality and Hylton is still there as a coach, I don't think there's really as much need for Jones to go back to the old guard to set an example now.AberystwythAddick said:
I’m not so sure. Jones seems to be big on tempo setters, people that know how he wants to play and how he wants to train. Now I think how we played last season was jones working with what he had. Moving forward he probably wants to revert to how his Luton sides played, which is why he needs people like Hylton, Mpanzu and Bell, they all know what is required and how to be successful in a jones sidearny23394 said:
No chance. Wasn’t deemed good enough for Luton last season - got loaned out and didn’t impress for Rotherham.AberystwythAddick said:I still think Mpanzu will be coming in. He might be this years teddy bishop and go to slovina4 -
Is he a plane spotter?TheAddicks4Ever said:YAN VALERY asked my mate about him - who is a longtime suffering Southampton fan about his time at the Saints he said he always thought he had potential but he was a bit inconsistent for them will be it was young then a decent championship player he thinks
Maybe we are waiting until after the 15th July - when players are allowed to leave their contract at the "Massives" because they have broken a clause of continued months on late payments in wages
Watch this space...a nice signing on fee and close proximity to airports might sway it for the 27 years old3 -
No he spends his time watching the boats come in...Uboat said:
Is he a plane spotter?TheAddicks4Ever said:YAN VALERY asked my mate about him - who is a longtime suffering Southampton fan about his time at the Saints he said he always thought he had potential but he was a bit inconsistent for them will be it was young then a decent championship player he thinks
Maybe we are waiting until after the 15th July - when players are allowed to leave their contract at the "Massives" because they have broken a clause of continued months on late payments in wages
Watch this space...a nice signing on fee and close proximity to airports might sway it for the 27 years old3 -
Midfield and set piece delivery still concerns me. Need creativity and ideally a couple of Kinsella/Jackson types who can tackle, pass, chip in with a few goals and take a decent corner/free kick. Chances are going to be harder to come by and I'd like to see us threatening more from set pieces as our corners and attacking third free kicks (with a couple of notable one-off exceptions) have been piss poor for a numbers if seasons.4
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I think he was talking about the flares on the middle of the field at full time after beating Wycombe.ShootersHillGuru said:
Hasn’t Jones himself stated he’s looking for some flair in midfield ?NabySarr said:
I thought people would have learnt from last season when everyone was crying about not signing a playmaker, we didn’t need one last season in league 1 and we don’t need one now in the championship. I remember replying to the same cries, that isn’t how Jones teams create chancesShootersHillGuru said:Squad as is will be lacking in goals. Unless we can find a striker and attacking CM who instigates our attacks and regularly chips in I think we’ll struggle. We need a playmaker and goal scorer and at Championship level they are expensive. For me those are the two big ticket items we need to go and get. A RWB to replace Small is also very desirable because using Ramsay there I think is a waste of his best attributes.We need to sign a central midfielder to compete with Docherty, but it’s not going to be a playmaker. We didn’t need one in league 1 and in the championship we will have much less of the ball. If we only have the ball for 30-40% of games then I’d rather a midfielder that’s good without the ball. On our budget we aren’t going to sign a playmaker that offers what we need out of possession, much better to sign someone who is great out of possession and still an upgrade on Docherty with the ball2 -
Yes of course but just being realistic you aren’t going to slot a playmaker into our team on our budget that won’t massively expose us at this level defensively.ShootersHillGuru said:
I think if we start the campaign with a view to just stopping the opposition from playing we’ll come unstuck big time. If you don’t have the ball you can’t score a goal. We practiced that to some extent last season with success but The Championship is a different kettle of fish. Conceding possession for 90 minutes and pure hard work will imho fail more often than it succeeds.NabySarr said:
You said yourself a playmaker that can create chances is not cheap. If you want to sign one that can do that and also do everything we need them to do without the ball to a very good level then that’s just not realistic for a first year championship signing.ShootersHillGuru said:
Our owners are supposed to be very wealthy and don’t get me wrong I’m not advocating spending money in silly amounts but there is a balance between spending what’s needed to do the job and not. If we don’t actually spend “enough” to stay up then everything they and the manager have worked for over the last 18 months will be worthless. I’d suggest they don’t spoil the ship for a ha’peth of tar.NabySarr said:
I thought people would have learnt from last season when everyone was crying about not signing a playmaker, we didn’t need one last season in league 1 and we don’t need one now in the championship. I remember replying to the same cries, that isn’t how Jones teams create chancesShootersHillGuru said:Squad as is will be lacking in goals. Unless we can find a striker and attacking CM who instigates our attacks and regularly chips in I think we’ll struggle. We need a playmaker and goal scorer and at Championship level they are expensive. For me those are the two big ticket items we need to go and get. A RWB to replace Small is also very desirable because using Ramsay there I think is a waste of his best attributes.We need to sign a central midfielder to compete with Docherty, but it’s not going to be a playmaker. We didn’t need one in league 1 and in the championship we will have much less of the ball. If we only have the ball for 30-40% of games then I’d rather a midfielder that’s good without the ball. On our budget we aren’t going to sign a playmaker that offers what we need out of possession, much better to sign someone who is great out of possession and still an upgrade on Docherty with the ballIf we sign a playmaker that can’t do the off ball stuff then we will go backwards, off the ball is a lot more important than on the ball to us, even more so in the championship.We will score goals like we did last season, winning the ball high up the pitch (will get more chances at this in the championship), set pieces and getting wide players 1v1. We will probably see more counter attacks (Olaofe and TC) and also some long shots from Carey. And I’m sure we will replace Aneke with a similar Plan B option to go long too late in games. A playmaker would help getting the ball out to TC and RWB, but it’s not worth sacrificing the off the ball side of the game. We will sign a player similar to Docherty but better on the ball
Going up a level we aren’t going to massively change the way we play and add in a playmaker2
