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Playoffs Guaranteed Minimum - Good Friday
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Wycombe game is before the Wrexham game.golfaddick said:
I think after we played Wrexham we'll know what the SP is. We should be safely in the play offs & very likely not be able to get top 2.Uboat said:Will there come a point where Nathan starts resting players for the semi finals or will he just keep pushing?
2 games to go NJ may want to rest a couple of players. But then you have the "integrety" of the competition to think about. We have to play Wycombe (maybe still chasing 2nd ?) and finally Burton (safe ? Already relegated ? Need a point to stay up ?) and so not playing your best 11 players might be questioned.0 -
This is Wycombe’s only win against a top 7 side. It was months ago and under a different manager. All teams in the top 6 are obviously decent but I’d rather play them than any other I thinkBraziliance said:The undoubtedly trickier game for all EFL teams (unless you're named Wycombe Wanderers)
Personally I want to be up against the team that has struggled against good teams (the teams that will be in the play offs) and also blown a 5 point lead on 3rd. The Wycombe fans don’t believe at all and the vibes there are not good
In contrast, Reading’s record against good sides is very good, I think it suits their style. They even avoided defeat to Birmingham this season. I’m hoping they don’t make the top 69 -
KettsJohn said:
Yeah I don't why. Do they have a choice or is it decided? Either way, it worked. I also went to the Leeds playoff final. Back then it was home and away and there was then the decider at Birmingham as we drew both games. Played in blue that game. We have not lost a play off final.... Yeah saw some Sunderland fans this morning at Norwich station making their way home.Braziliance said:
I was actually thinking about Sunderland yesterday mate, was doing some taxi duties in Norwich City centre and saw all the Mackems about and it made my brain start ticking.KettsJohn said:Can we just play Sunderland in the final please?
Why did we play in red at Wembley both times?
I understand 2019 as we finished 3rd and thought it was that, but Sunderland finished above us in the league In 98.
Does anyone know why Sunderland didn't play in their home strip?
Both games ended up 1-0
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Points against other sides in the top 10 so far for those interested:
Birmingham: 35, 1 to play
Stockport: 28, 2 to play
Charlton: 26, 2 to play
Wrexham: 24, 2 to play
Bolton: 21, 1 to play
Blackpool: 20, 2 to play
Reading: 20
Leyton Orient: 19, 2 to play
Huddersfield: 18, 2 to play
Wycombe: 13, 4 to play23 -
Nice bit of research. I hadn’t realised/ given any thought about Wycombe’s record so far against teams challenging for promotion. Bolton and Reading’s record is nothing special either.DyerConsequences said:Points against other sides in the top 10 so far for those interested:
Birmingham: 35, 1 to play
Stockport: 28, 2 to play
Charlton: 26, 2 to play
Wrexham: 24, 2 to play
Bolton: 21, 1 to play
Blackpool: 20, 2 to play
Reading: 20
Leyton Orient: 19, 2 to play
Huddersfield: 18, 2 to play
Wycombe: 13, 4 to play5 -
Is that the reason why you're called 'Large Addick' ?LargeAddick said:
I’ve heard even a couple of centimetres makes all the difference 🫢jimmymelrose said:
Big pitches, small pitches, blah , blah, really?!NabySarr said:
I might be wrong but the valley is a bigger pitch than most right? We are a lot better there than away from home.Chrispy51 said:
Will a big pitch help us with our play style? We seem to rely on a long ball / high press play style which a smaller pitch will help for running distances. If we were to play a more expansive passing game I would agree with you about the pitch size but we generally have less possession so a bigger pitch could become an issue. The big pitch will help Small and TC to isolate their defenders and cause some havoc, but our press could be bypassed a bit more easilyCAFCTrev said:Have to get that 2nd leg at home. I can see us beating anyone at the Valley, but away from home we've looked vulnerable in spells and I don't fancy us to hold on to a slender 1-0 first leg lead away at Wycombe or Stockport.
Id also fancy us to win at Wembley with the larger pitch and 35K+ Addicks cheering us on.I think the comments are more about playing Stockport specifically where a big pitch would help us, as in the away game we really struggled to get Small and TC in the game. Against a footballing side like maybe a Reading the big pitch would probably help their style more than ours
What are the differences in size in fact?
We only know if there’s anything to ’pitch size theory’ if we can study the dimensions.Also, do a couple of metres really make a difference?
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Still a no.0
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Original point was, Stockport is the tough game for anyone, I reckon Wycombe would say otherwise.NabySarr said:
This is Wycombe’s only win against a top 7 side. It was months ago and under a different manager. All teams in the top 6 are obviously decent but I’d rather play them than any other I thinkBraziliance said:The undoubtedly trickier game for all EFL teams (unless you're named Wycombe Wanderers)
Personally I want to be up against the team that has struggled against good teams (the teams that will be in the play offs) and also blown a 5 point lead on 3rd. The Wycombe fans don’t believe at all and the vibes there are not good
In contrast, Reading’s record against good sides is very good, I think it suits their style. They even avoided defeat to Birmingham this season. I’m hoping they don’t make the top 6
Anyway, it's a lottery, and all of this stuff about who plays who is completely overthinking it. Get the second leg home tie, hope the football God's pick us. That's if we secure play offs, we will get a better idea on Saturday
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The likely only way we get automatics is by winning five in a row and getting 88 points.Working on that assumption, even still: Wrexham are already on 82 and Wycombe are already on 81. If either of them get to 88, I don’t expect us to overhaul the goal difference (+27 & +30 against +19).
That means:
- Wrexham must drop points against two of Bristol Rovers (H), Blackpool (A) and Lincoln (A). Lose or draw wouldn’t ultimately matter. Two wins and a loss gets them to 88 whereas one win and two draws only gets them to 87.
- Wycombe must lose one or drop points against two of Bolton (A), Orient (A) and Stockport (H). Two wins and a draw gets them to 88.
Obviously Stockport have to be overhauled too but if we win every game between now and 4th May, we’d just need them to drop points once against anyone they play (Rotherham, Peterborough, Huddersfield, Lincoln and Wycombe).5 -
Braziliance said:
Original point was, Stockport is the tough game for anyone, I reckon Wycombe would say otherwise.NabySarr said:
This is Wycombe’s only win against a top 7 side. It was months ago and under a different manager. All teams in the top 6 are obviously decent but I’d rather play them than any other I thinkBraziliance said:The undoubtedly trickier game for all EFL teams (unless you're named Wycombe Wanderers)
Personally I want to be up against the team that has struggled against good teams (the teams that will be in the play offs) and also blown a 5 point lead on 3rd. The Wycombe fans don’t believe at all and the vibes there are not good
In contrast, Reading’s record against good sides is very good, I think it suits their style. They even avoided defeat to Birmingham this season. I’m hoping they don’t make the top 6
Anyway, it's a lottery, and all of this stuff about who plays who is completely overthinking it. Get the second leg home tie, hope the football God's pick us. That's if we secure play offs, we will get a better idea on SaturdayThe likelihood is we'll play Stockport, but as you say once you're in the play-offs it's then a lottery.I still maintain whoever plays either Wycombe or the taffs will go through, these two will have been so close to the automatics they'll collapse.2 -
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Itshappening.gifCallumcafc said:The likely only way we get automatics is by winning five in a row and getting 88 points.Working on that assumption, even still: Wrexham are already on 82 and Wycombe are already on 81. If either of them get to 88, I don’t expect us to overhaul the goal difference (+27 & +30 against +19).
That means:
- Wrexham must drop points against two of Bristol Rovers (H), Blackpool (A) and Lincoln (A). Lose or draw wouldn’t ultimately matter. Two wins and a loss gets them to 88 whereas one win and two draws only gets them to 87.
- Wycombe must lose one or drop points against two of Bolton (A), Orient (A) and Stockport (H). Two wins and a draw gets them to 88.
Obviously Stockport have to be overhauled too but if we win every game between now and 4th May, we’d just need them to drop points once against anyone they play (Rotherham, Peterborough, Huddersfield, Lincoln and Wycombe).1 -
Dread facing Stockport in the playoffs..1
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Wrexham fixtures. 82 points. GD 27Bristol RoversBlackpoolCharltonLincolnWycombe fixtures. 81 points. GD 30BoltonCharltonOrientStockport
Stockport fixtures. 77 points. GD 26PeterboroughHuddersfieldLincolnWycombeCharlton fixtures. 76 points. GD 20NorthamptonWycombeWrexhamBurton
Reading fixtures. 69 points GD 8LincolnMansfieldRoversBarnsley
Leyton Orient fixtures 66 points. GD18
Barnsley
Cambridge
Wycombe
HuddersfieldBolton fixtures. 66 points. GD 1WycombeLincolnPeterboroughStevenage1 -
Reading and Stockport with the best sets of fixtures there.0
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Updated:DyerConsequences said:
Updated:DyerConsequences said:After today's results the lowest we can now finish is 10th (was 11th before kick off).
Points needed to guarantee we finish above the teams below:
Blackpool - 3
Orient - 6
Huddersfield - 10
Reading - 11
Bolton - 12
We can still finish 10th. However points now updated on what we need to guarantee finishing above the teams below:
Blackpool - 3
Orient - 6
Huddersfield - 7
Bolton - 9
Reading - 11
So 9 points at most will guarantee a playoff place.
Lowest we can now mathematically finish is 9th. Points to guarantee we finish above those below:
Huddersfield - 1
Bolton - 3
Leyton Orient - 3
Reading - 6
Also if we win all 4 games we are guaranteed at finishing at lowest 4th, due to the fact we would inflict a Wycombe loss, and they also have to play Stockport.3 -
Completely disagree.Callumcafc said:The likely only way we get automatics is by winning five in a row and getting 88 points.Working on that assumption, even still: Wrexham are already on 82 and Wycombe are already on 81. If either of them get to 88, I don’t expect us to overhaul the goal difference (+27 & +30 against +19).
That means:
- Wrexham must drop points against two of Bristol Rovers (H), Blackpool (A) and Lincoln (A). Lose or draw wouldn’t ultimately matter. Two wins and a loss gets them to 88 whereas one win and two draws only gets them to 87.
- Wycombe must lose one or drop points against two of Bolton (A), Orient (A) and Stockport (H). Two wins and a draw gets them to 88.
Obviously Stockport have to be overhauled too but if we win every game between now and 4th May, we’d just need them to drop points once against anyone they play (Rotherham, Peterborough, Huddersfield, Lincoln and Wycombe).Even if we both win on Friday which let’s just say is fairly likely. They go to Blackpool the same day we play Wycombe. If they lose and we win, we can then bring them level with a victory up at their place. Straight shootout on the last day of the season!They are going to start getting very nervous what with Wycombe, Stockport and us all winning today!6 -
Disagreed with the wrong comment sorry mate. My comment above still counts though.cafc_se7 said:
Completely disagree.Callumcafc said:The likely only way we get automatics is by winning five in a row and getting 88 points.Working on that assumption, even still: Wrexham are already on 82 and Wycombe are already on 81. If either of them get to 88, I don’t expect us to overhaul the goal difference (+27 & +30 against +19).
That means:
- Wrexham must drop points against two of Bristol Rovers (H), Blackpool (A) and Lincoln (A). Lose or draw wouldn’t ultimately matter. Two wins and a loss gets them to 88 whereas one win and two draws only gets them to 87.
- Wycombe must lose one or drop points against two of Bolton (A), Orient (A) and Stockport (H). Two wins and a draw gets them to 88.
Obviously Stockport have to be overhauled too but if we win every game between now and 4th May, we’d just need them to drop points once against anyone they play (Rotherham, Peterborough, Huddersfield, Lincoln and Wycombe).Even if we both win on Friday which let’s just say is fairly likely. They go to Blackpool the same day we play Wycombe. If they lose and we win, we can then bring them level with a victory up at their place. Straight shootout on the last day of the season!They are going to start getting very nervous what with Wycombe, Stockport and us all winning today!1 -
Stockport could really benefit from us playing Wycombe and Wrexham - we could do them a favour.9
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Ironically if we win all 5 games I think Stockport could nick it yes!North Lower Neil said:Stockport could really benefit from us playing Wycombe and Wrexham - we could do them a favour.1 -
Would take a cock up of epic proportions, and a string of wins from Orient or Bolton, to now drop out of the playoffs.
In 5th, we are closer to Wrexham in 2nd point-wise than Reading, in 6th, are to us.4 -
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I think we have enough points already. Second place is still possible but we have to win every game.3
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Almost certainly there. It would take a fuck up of the greatest proportions for us not to be in the top 6. Even losing all 4 games would mean Bolton needing to win all their last 4 and Orient needing 3 wins and a draw, seeing as their GD would be better than ours.
That final scenario had better not happen otherwise you'll never hear the last of it from me....😂😂😂.1 -
Fair enough but I can’t see for the life of me why the word “dread” is being used here. Trust me, none of the other three playoff teams will fancy playing us. Of course we could come a cropper against any of them. That’s football but we shouldn’t fear any of the three.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Dread facing Stockport in the playoffs..4 -
Yep. And think we should take stock and start resting players when it's confirmed next week.
Let Wrexham and Wycombe slog it out to the death and hopefully the heartbroken loser has nothing left in the tank for the playoffs!
That's where I'm at anyway.3 -
Easter weekend will be massive in our push to overtake Wycombe. We have a winnable fixture on Friday and they have Bolton (away) who are dangerous on their day. Then Easter Monday is the big showdown. Stockport have potentially tricky fixtures too depending on what versions of Peterborough and Huddersfield show up4
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Just think we'll struggle against them - happy to be proved wrong. Challinor is a very shrewd manager.ShootersHillGuru said:
Fair enough but I can’t see for the life of me why the word “dread” is being used here. Trust me, none of the other three playoff teams will fancy playing us. Of course we could come a cropper against any of them. That’s football but we shouldn’t fear any of the three.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Dread facing Stockport in the playoffs..0 -
Stockport are the team I'd like to face least over two legs. A one off at Wembley is a different matter entirely.11
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Mathematically: We need two points to secure playoffs, we need to get full points to have any chance of Automatics (in my opinion), but only need to win twice (providing Stockport, Wycombe and Wrexham loose) and equal (their results) the other two GW results (in reality).
We play 'the relegation' crowd, and 'Automatic Promotion' crowd so getting full points is a possible.
Wycombe and Wrexham can afford to draw against us, and most likely take their automatic promotion fight to the final day. Stockport play Wycombe last game so that will be interesting whatever.
Wycombe play the 'play off' crowd, while Wrexham* and Stockport** have the 'mid-table' crowd in their next few games.
By that final game we need to still be in with a chance (mathematically) to go up automatically otherwise we're probably playing the team that finishes 4/5th (likely to be Stockport).
*-Bristol Rovers (considering they can still get relegated) and us being the expections (Unless you think Blackpool still have a chance for playoffs).
**-Peterborough (considering they can still get relegated), and Wycombe on the final day being the exceptions. (Unless you think Huddersfield still have a chance for playoffs).
My use of the word crowd is used to symbolise the groups of teams that are playing for something.
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JustFloydRoad said:
Mathematically: We need two points to secure playoffs, we need to get full points to have any chance of Automatics (in my opinion), but only need to win twice (providing Stockport, Wycombe and Wrexham loose) and equal (their results) the other two GW results (in reality).
We play 'the relegation' crowd, and 'Automatic Promotion' crowd so getting full points is a possible.
Wycombe and Wrexham can afford to draw against us, and most likely take their automatic promotion fight to the final day. Stockport play Wycombe last game so that will be interesting whatever.
Wycombe play the 'play off' crowd, while Wrexham* and Stockport** have the 'mid-table' crowd in their next few games.
By that final game we need to still be in with a chance (mathematically) to go up automatically otherwise we're probably playing the team that finishes 4/5th (likely to be Stockport).
*-Bristol Rovers (considering they can still get relegated) and us being the expections (Unless you think Blackpool still have a chance for playoffs).
**-Peterborough (considering they can still get relegated), and Wycombe on the final day being the exceptions. (Unless you think Huddersfield still have a chance for playoffs).
My use of the word crowd is used to symbolise the groups of teams that are playing for something.
Sorry lost me at mathematically..
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ShootersHillGuru said:
Fair enough but I can’t see for the life of me why the word “dread” is being used here.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Dread facing Stockport in the playoffs..The recent(ish) away game at their place says it all. Stockport dominated for long stretches, and we barely laid a glove on them. We were lucky to get out of there with a 0-0.
If we have to go back there for a second leg, I’d be seriously nervous—especially if we don’t take a solid lead from the first leg at The Valley.
Our away form hasn’t been great this season—even in the games we’ve won—so that’s where we’re most vulnerable over two legs. At The Valley, though, I’d back us to beat anyone. And if we make it to Wembley with 35,000+ Addicks behind us? Game on.
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