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Shag said:Have gone to Melbourne Fc v Perth glory tonight and there’s a fella in the Perth ‘end’ who is wearing a Charlton shirt!
Are you sure it wasn't a Carlton shirt?
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Shag said:Have gone to Melbourne Fc v Perth glory tonight and there’s a fella in the Perth ‘end’ who is wearing a Charlton shirt!
Or a Carlton shirt.
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I was impressed with Jamie Overton today playing in the Big Bash. One ball was measured at 148. He can also whack the ball.0
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The real issue will be when they start a global franchises abroad in May- July and start paying big money. As a youngster are you going to slog your way around the county circuit or earn the same money that you get for a wholeAddick Addict said:
Tribe finished that innings for the Lions on 129*. It seems the IPL has already got their claws into him as he is currently playing in the SA20 for the Paarl Royals. I do worry that, with these young players not centrally contracted are going to find it virtually impossible to commit to England. There really should be a narrower gap between those have a contract and those that don't with Cox an example of someone who has been very successful at home and abroad but who seems out of the England picture.Addick Addict said:Meanwhile, the Lions are 172-3 in their second innings against Australia A. Bethell is taking a leaf out of the book of Stokes and Jacks in being 59* off 123 balls. Whisper the name but Asa Tribe, a 21 year-old from Jersey who hit 222 in an innings for Glamorgan against Northants in the CC last season, is currently 76* (98).
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billysboots said:
The real issue will be when they start a global franchises abroad in May- July and start paying big money. As a youngster are you going to slog your way around the county circuit or earn the same money that you get for a wholeAddick Addict said:
Tribe finished that innings for the Lions on 129*. It seems the IPL has already got their claws into him as he is currently playing in the SA20 for the Paarl Royals. I do worry that, with these young players not centrally contracted are going to find it virtually impossible to commit to England. There really should be a narrower gap between those have a contract and those that don't with Cox an example of someone who has been very successful at home and abroad but who seems out of the England picture.Addick Addict said:Meanwhile, the Lions are 172-3 in their second innings against Australia A. Bethell is taking a leaf out of the book of Stokes and Jacks in being 59* off 123 balls. Whisper the name but Asa Tribe, a 21 year-old from Jersey who hit 222 in an innings for Glamorgan against Northants in the CC last season, is currently 76* (98).
season to play a month abroad ?
This is what scares me as a county fan , the whole system becomes effectively a 2XI competition if that ever happens.0 -
billysboots said:
The real issue will be when they start a global franchises abroad in May- July and start paying big money. As a youngster are you going to slog your way around the county circuit or earn the same money that you get for a wholeAddick Addict said:
Tribe finished that innings for the Lions on 129*. It seems the IPL has already got their claws into him as he is currently playing in the SA20 for the Paarl Royals. I do worry that, with these young players not centrally contracted are going to find it virtually impossible to commit to England. There really should be a narrower gap between those have a contract and those that don't with Cox an example of someone who has been very successful at home and abroad but who seems out of the England picture.Addick Addict said:Meanwhile, the Lions are 172-3 in their second innings against Australia A. Bethell is taking a leaf out of the book of Stokes and Jacks in being 59* off 123 balls. Whisper the name but Asa Tribe, a 21 year-old from Jersey who hit 222 in an innings for Glamorgan against Northants in the CC last season, is currently 76* (98).
season to play a month abroad ?
Unless the ECB make playing for England more attractive financially for those not centrally contracted (reduce the value of the CCs and offer more of them combined with bigger payments for squad and match appearances) and stop handing them out to the likes of Bashir who doesn't even play cricket because no one actually wants to play him.
It seems totally ludicrous that, on the one hand Bashir has a central contract having played, in the last nine months, seven games of competitive cricket (three in the CC plus four Test matches) whereas Cox gets paid a zero retainer but made over 40 appearances in that period, averaging 59.09 in the CC, 61.16 (at an SR of 173.93) in the Hundred and 38.00 (at an SR of 165.21) in the Vitality Blast and consequently no incentive to be a bit-part in the England set up as things stand. Bashir doesn't win matches whereas Cox does.
It's all very well saying these youngsters should want to play for their country but they have a short career and you have to offer them a level playing field. Identifying so called talent and putting all those eggs in the one basket merely creates division. If those youngsters like Cox and Tribe do end up playing for global franchises between May-July then they won't be playing for their country. There won't be any home internationals in August, for obvious reasons either, so that, potentially, rules them out for most of the season being available for England.1 -
Just like the 50 over competition is nowMarcusH26 said:billysboots said:
The real issue will be when they start a global franchises abroad in May- July and start paying big money. As a youngster are you going to slog your way around the county circuit or earn the same money that you get for a wholeAddick Addict said:
Tribe finished that innings for the Lions on 129*. It seems the IPL has already got their claws into him as he is currently playing in the SA20 for the Paarl Royals. I do worry that, with these young players not centrally contracted are going to find it virtually impossible to commit to England. There really should be a narrower gap between those have a contract and those that don't with Cox an example of someone who has been very successful at home and abroad but who seems out of the England picture.Addick Addict said:Meanwhile, the Lions are 172-3 in their second innings against Australia A. Bethell is taking a leaf out of the book of Stokes and Jacks in being 59* off 123 balls. Whisper the name but Asa Tribe, a 21 year-old from Jersey who hit 222 in an innings for Glamorgan against Northants in the CC last season, is currently 76* (98).
season to play a month abroad ?
This is what scares me as a county fan , the whole system becomes effectively a 2XI competition if that ever happens.
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blackpool72 said:
Just like the 50 over competition is nowMarcusH26 said:billysboots said:
The real issue will be when they start a global franchises abroad in May- July and start paying big money. As a youngster are you going to slog your way around the county circuit or earn the same money that you get for a wholeAddick Addict said:
Tribe finished that innings for the Lions on 129*. It seems the IPL has already got their claws into him as he is currently playing in the SA20 for the Paarl Royals. I do worry that, with these young players not centrally contracted are going to find it virtually impossible to commit to England. There really should be a narrower gap between those have a contract and those that don't with Cox an example of someone who has been very successful at home and abroad but who seems out of the England picture.Addick Addict said:Meanwhile, the Lions are 172-3 in their second innings against Australia A. Bethell is taking a leaf out of the book of Stokes and Jacks in being 59* off 123 balls. Whisper the name but Asa Tribe, a 21 year-old from Jersey who hit 222 in an innings for Glamorgan against Northants in the CC last season, is currently 76* (98).
season to play a month abroad ?
This is what scares me as a county fan , the whole system becomes effectively a 2XI competition if that ever happens.
Fuck the franchises
Pretty much! I'm just waiting for the first players to essentially sign to a franchise year round.0 -
I think this Ashes series is a step towards Test cricket as we know it dying. Sadly.0
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Usman Khawaja will retire from Test cricket following the SCG Test.0
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Bashir in 12 man squad0
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Without the injured Wood, Archer and Atkinson, they might just as well have announced all 13 and included Pope too.MrOneLung said:Bashir in 12 man squad
Should Potts play here then his 11 Test appearances, in the three and a half years since he made his debut, will have been achieved against no less than seven different opponents which must be some sort of record in itself- NZ (4), Sri Lanka (2), India (1), Australia (1), South Africa (1), Ireland (1) and Pakistan (1).0 -
Matthew Fisher is also in the squad, but thankfully for Potts' sake hasn't leapfrogged him!Addick Addict said:
Without the injured Wood, Archer and Atkinson, they might just as well have announced all 13 and included Pope too.MrOneLung said:Bashir in 12 man squad
Should Potts play here then his 11 Test appearances, in the three and a half years since he made his debut, will have been achieved against no less than seven different opponents which must be some sort of record in itself- NZ (4), Sri Lanka (2), India (1), Australia (1), South Africa (1), Ireland (1) and Pakistan (1).1 -
Was listening to something earlier and Ali Martin made the point that with Archer out meaning Potts gets a game (and Fisher joining the squad) we are getting Australian experience into the next generation of England bowlers that you hope will be coming back to Australia for a while0
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Four years is a long time and that only works if these players stay fit, retain their form, don't fall out with the regime (Robinson) or opt to go down the franchise T20 franchise route instead (Jamie Overton).fenaddick said:Was listening to something earlier and Ali Martin made the point that with Archer out meaning Potts gets a game (and Fisher joining the squad) we are getting Australian experience into the next generation of England bowlers that you hope will be coming back to Australia for a while
Accepting that age caught up with a lot of our last cohort of bowlers in Australia, all of Anderson, Broad, Craig Overton, Woakes, Robinson, Bess and Leach are unlikely to play Test cricket again with only Wood and Stokes of the nine bowlers from that series making this trip. If we extend that to the batters then Bairstow, Buttler, Burns, Billings, Lawrence, Malan and Hameed have been discarded meaning just Root, Crawley and Pope were in both squads.
That is the danger in planning too far ahead. The ECB originally gave Wood a three-year central contract on the basis that he would be one of our main bowlers in the Ashes and he's played just one match in all forms of the game for England in the last 10 months. Equally, as we've found with Bashir, we've been "pot committed" to picking someone not fit to do the job and having to concede that only when we've got to Australia. That's not his fault but the fault of a system that rewards players for not playing and omits others because those ones selected are, effectively, "blockers" to getting into the side.
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40 minutes to the start of play0
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England win the toss and elect to bat.
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Potts comes in for Atkinson as the only change meaning England's number one spinner, Bashir, fails to make an appearance in this Ashes.
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Potts in for Atkinson. Bashir doesn't get a game this series0
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Webster in for Richardson for Australia. Their batting line up is ridiculous in terms of depth with Green (7), Webster (8), Neser (9) and Starc (10).
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Australia go without a front line spinner too. Todd Murphy left as 12th man for the second Test in a row.0
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Could this be bucking the trend, and turning into a 5 day draw? I doubt it, especially as weather doesnt look too bad over the 5 days.0
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Missed most of the 4th test having had to get a good night's sleep before the trip to Carrow Road & then being on the lash in Norwich later that evening and the Premier Inn not having TNT
So tonight as we are batting first I'm going to try to stay up all night & watch the whole days play. Then to bed until early afternoon when I'll get up & inflict more torture on myself by watching us at Ewood Pk on a dodgy stream.
Wish me luck....
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Of all the venues this is the one most likely to be a draw even without any interruptions. That said, the current Betfair price for a draw is 9.60 so that is roughly a 10% shot.Zulu said:Could this be bucking the trend, and turning into a 5 day draw? I doubt it, especially as weather doesnt look too bad over the 5 days.0 -
I wonder if Australia are using this game as a shootout between Green and Webster?0
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Although in the last five minutes the draw has shortened a full point to 8.60.Addick Addict said:
Of all the venues this is the one most likely to be a draw even without any interruptions. That said, the current Betfair price for a draw is 9.60 so that is roughly a 10% shot.Zulu said:Could this be bucking the trend, and turning into a 5 day draw? I doubt it, especially as weather doesnt look too bad over the 5 days.0 -
Both openers get off the mark and survive the first Starc over1
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26-0, 5 ovs0
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35-1
Duckett edges behind off Starc0 -
What a shit shot.Why even play at that ?0
