England Cricket 2025

Todds_right_hook

Is this on TNT?

Chizz

Todds_right_hook said:

Is this on TNT?

Yes, it was

Callumcafc

Bethell as captain is kind of comical to me

North Lower Neil

North Lower Neil said:

Chizz said:

Ireland 196-3 - their highest T20 score against England

Never lost to us in t20s

Have now!

Chizz

Callumcafc said:

Bethell as captain is kind of comical to me

Best ever win percentage record of any England captain

Leuth

Chizz said:

Callumcafc said:

Bethell as captain is kind of comical to me

Best ever win percentage record of any England captain

How did I know you were coming here with this exact post eh

Addick Addict

So, England's fixtures during August & September:

Test v India July 31st-4th Aug: Lost by 6 runs
ODI v South Africa 2nd Sept: Lost by 7 wkts
ODI v South Africa 4th Sept: Lost by 5 runs
ODI v South Africa 7th Sept: Won by 345 runs
T20I v South Africa 10th Sept: Lost by 14 runs (England innings reduced to 5 overs due to the weather)
T20I v South Africa 12th Sept: Won by 146 runs
T20I v South Africa 14th Sept: Abandoned 
T20I v Ireland 17th Sept: Won by 4 wickets
T20I v Ireland 19th September: Abandoned

So three wins in nine matches - England lost the final Test of a 5-match series that was ludicrously crammed, were defeated in the first two matches of a 50 over series against SA by virtue of the players coming straight from The Hundred with the likes of Duckett "punch drunk" from playing so many matches, had a T20I series against SA decimated by the weather and now lead 1-0 against Ireland in the T20I series against Ireland with today's match being rained off too. 

The ECB living up to their reputation, as previously evidenced by our performances in recent world cups, has been further enhanced to the extent that they now carry the motto "We don't fail to plan, we plan to fail". 

golfaddick

Please tell me there are some warm up matches before the Ashes in 2 months time.

MarcusH26

golfaddick said:

Please tell me there are some warm up matches before the Ashes in 2 months time.

I believe the main squad are playing the Lions squad , but not seen anything else announced. I'd assume a Prime Ministers XI game or something along those lines too. 

thai malaysia addick

Cramming in Test matches has the side effect of meaning that teams tend to rotate their quick bowlers. This knocks on to some quick bowlers preferring to focus on short form cricket because they can earn plenty, only have to bowl 4/10 overs and can keep going into their 30s. Whether the sport will split in two remains to be seen but the schedule is becoming increasingly unmanageable, particularly with our relatively short summers.

Chizz

MarcusH26 said:

golfaddick said:

Please tell me there are some warm up matches before the Ashes in 2 months time.

I believe the main squad are playing the Lions squad , but not seen anything else announced. I'd assume a Prime Ministers XI game or something along those lines too. 

This is right.  England play the Lions in their only pre-series FC match (my guess is that it will be later downgraded) in a three-day match starting on 13 November.  And another warm-up, against the Prime Minister's XI in a two-day match on 29 November - after the first Test.

killerandflash

Dubiously they're also treating the white ball series in NZ as part of the warm up for the Ashes.

billysboots

killerandflash said:

Dubiously they're also treating the white ball series in NZ as part of the warm up for the Ashes.

And the bowlers are going out early to work with the lions squad 

Zulu

Josh Tongue reaching 92 mph yesterday.

golfaddick

Ashes squad just announced.

Will Jacks called up as 2nd spinner. Brook vice captain, taking over from Ollie Pope.

Everyone else as expected. 

North Lower Neil

Interesting - would have expected Rehan Ahmed if we took 2 spinners, and Brook being made VC makes me think they're considering dropping Pope for Bethell.

fenaddick

golfaddick said:

Ashes squad just announced.

Will Jacks called up as 2nd spinner. Brook vice captain, taking over from Ollie Pope.

Everyone else as expected. 

Not quite, Matt Potts is a semi surprising selection as he was totally dropped for the summer after a poor start to the CC season. 

The Brook thing suggests we might well see Bethell coming in over Pope

Bedsaddick

North Lower Neil said:

Interesting - would have expected Rehan Ahmed if we took 2 spinners, and Brook being made VC makes me think they're considering dropping Pope for Bethell.

Would make sense . Pope has been disappointment the last 18 months and I’m not sure his decision making in the field is up to scratch when he took over as captain. They also have big plans for Bethell as well . 

fenaddick

Pope also supposedly was very angry about getting out for Surrey last time out, suggests he's been told/knows his place is up for grabs

Diebythesword

Rehan Ahmed must be wondering who he pissed off with will jacks called up as the second spinner. 

Leuth

Joverton dropped out so they had to fill their Surrey joke selection quota another way clearly 

North Lower Neil

Diebythesword said:

Rehan Ahmed must be wondering who he pissed of with will jacks called up as the second spinner. 

Wonder if they see him as Stokes cover - top order and can bowl.

Personally I'd rather a better bowler be picked.

killerandflash

If they think Jacks can do a job in the Ashes, why didn't they pick him for the 5th India Test?

Picking a red ball spinner because he scored a few runs in white ball cricket is dubious.

North Lower Neil

Bedsaddick said:

North Lower Neil said:

Interesting - would have expected Rehan Ahmed if we took 2 spinners, and Brook being made VC makes me think they're considering dropping Pope for Bethell.

Would make sense . Pope has been disappointment the last 18 months and I’m not sure his decision making in the field is up to scratch when he took over as captain. They also have big plans for Bethell as well . 

Other option is they could be thinking Smith at 3, Pope keeping?

killerandflash

I keep reading that Brook's white ball captaincy has impressed, but has it really been that good?

England have been sensational at times, but awful other times, and I'm not sure the sensational batting performances have been down to his captaincy.

MarcusH26

No idea how Jacks is there over Rehan or even James Coles. 

Addick Addict

Jacks in FC this season - five wickets in 74.1 overs - says it all. 

Addick Addict

North Lower Neil said:

Bedsaddick said:

North Lower Neil said:

Interesting - would have expected Rehan Ahmed if we took 2 spinners, and Brook being made VC makes me think they're considering dropping Pope for Bethell.

Would make sense . Pope has been disappointment the last 18 months and I’m not sure his decision making in the field is up to scratch when he took over as captain. They also have big plans for Bethell as well . 

Other option is they could be thinking Smith at 3, Pope keeping?

Would be surprised. I did hear on the grapevine that they wouldn't be taking another keeper and that Pope would be the back up with the gloves but I think they are desperate to get Bethell in there somewhere. Jacks, despite him not being a red ball spinner of any note, might play in one of the Tests if they really think that it will offer nothing for Bashir and specifically the day/night match. That would strengthen the batting for a game that traditionally doesn't last many days.  

Diebythesword

Addick Addict said:

Jacks in FC this season - five wickets in 74.1 overs - says it all. 

Hasn’t scored any runs either, iirc tongue has scored more runs in FC cricket than jacks this season 

Leuth

Jacks has hit a ton, but that's basically all the runs he's scored as he's only had 3 or 4 innings