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Gavin Carter - Aug 2025 Talksport interview p8

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    Is it not a potential good thing for the fans in that section of the pitch?

    Lights arent on, so they're not able to see what is going on during the match itself

    Sounds like those seats should fall under Premium Season Ticket prices
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,739
    bobmunro said:
    AndyG said:
    Posted on the pitch thread, but will ask the same question here.

    Who is responsible for the general upkeep of the stadium? We are after all tenants.

    If you were renting a house with knackered plumbing and electrics the landlord would be expected to sort it out.

    If that is the case here, then I would say there is bugger all chance of getting things fixed as Roland won't be spending a penny on us.
    On commercial leases the lessee is responsible for maintenance and up keep mate not the freeholder

    Yes - it will be a full repairing (and insurance) lease.
    Which then makes me wonder whether old Roly would have some sort of disrepair case if he wanted to be vindictive? I assume we could be accused of allowing the place to become rundown?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Can we borrow some of Millwall's lightshow?
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,633
    seth plum said:
    Can we borrow some of Millwall's lightshow?
    The only thing that’s bright down there.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    On a slightly different tack, what must opposition fans (and indeed players) think of our club overall if we can't offer proper lighting for the game.
    Surely our 'mega-rich' owners can afford to replace the faulty lights? Or perhaps the SMT hasn't told them? 
    It really is a bad reflection on us in my opinion.
    I see what you did there   😉🙂
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Why don’t we all just put our phone lights on and aim them at the pitch, will create a sense of togetherness amongst fans 


    And if we could coordinate for the crowd to play Coldplay Viva La Vida at exactly the same time on their phones that would be awesome 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    I’m guessing it’s not possible to swap the current bulbs around ie so that every other one is working rather than have four/ five/ six in a row not working? 
    I am not sure about access to the West stand roof but when emergency lights needed replacing under Rolands ownership the club always ducked out of doing the work due to the cost of cherry picker and scaffolding hire. 
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    I’m guessing it’s not possible to swap the current bulbs around ie so that every other one is working rather than have four/ five/ six in a row not working? 
    Sounds like a question for CAST to ask
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Maybe Ipswich or Luton have some spare bulbs we can loan?
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    Scoham said:
    Maybe Ipswich or Luton have some spare bulbs we can loan?
    They'll pop once switched on.
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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    I’m guessing it’s not possible to swap the current bulbs around ie so that every other one is working rather than have four/ five/ six in a row not working? 
    I am not sure about access to the West stand roof but when emergency lights needed replacing under Rolands ownership the club always ducked out of doing the work due to the cost of cherry picker and scaffolding hire. 
    And taking lights from one place, just leaves dark patches elsewhere, as each light is directed at a certain part of the pitch 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    On the bulbs - Finally a role for Chuks given his landlord / house development sideline 🙂
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    bobmunro said:
    AndyG said:
    Posted on the pitch thread, but will ask the same question here.

    Who is responsible for the general upkeep of the stadium? We are after all tenants.

    If you were renting a house with knackered plumbing and electrics the landlord would be expected to sort it out.

    If that is the case here, then I would say there is bugger all chance of getting things fixed as Roland won't be spending a penny on us.
    On commercial leases the lessee is responsible for maintenance and up keep mate not the freeholder

    Yes - it will be a full repairing (and insurance) lease.
    Which then makes me wonder whether old Roly would have some sort of disrepair case if he wanted to be vindictive? I assume we could be accused of allowing the place to become rundown?
    The usual terms are restore to original condition when vacating. It’s not unusual for firms to go bust and fail to do so, but RD won’t care anyway unless he tries to move Millwall in.
  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,774
    no one leaves bulbs in the corner
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    One thing that annoys me is how long it takes to remove graffiti, has the Millwall graffiti gone yet from the wall on Floyd road?

    Assume it's to do with the council? I've always wondered if we could ever get that wall to be Charlton themed. 


  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    I know to some people, stuff like that won't bother them, but it genuinely pisses me off.

    Like away at Northampton, stickers on their walls from Peterborough fans mocking them over the 5-1. They played them 12 days before they played us and no one checks the stands to take stuff like that down? 

    Again, to some people it might just seem like a moan, but it's a pride thing, graffiti and the likes mocking your own club should be removed fairly promptly. 
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,792
    seth plum said:
    Can we borrow some of Millwall's lightshow?
    The only thing that’s bright down there.
    Went to the New Year's Day came for my brother's 70th birthday.  They've got two very good players, a centre-back from Spurs and a winger who would be an upgrade on TC, but the football was dire.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    cafc999 said:
    I’m guessing it’s not possible to swap the current bulbs around ie so that every other one is working rather than have four/ five/ six in a row not working? 
    Sounds like a question for CAST to ask
    No idea about floodlights but with filament bulbs in general, they seem fragile and if you move a  part-used one, they always seem to go pop immediately.  (I'm hoping my retro Christmas lights survived being taken down, I've only got 7 spare bulbs left and they now cost a fortune on eBay.)

    Right, back to Gavin Carter. First, pretty much his whole family was at a match recently and second, Kevin Lisbie calls him "Gav".  That's a good sign isn't it?
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,408
    I’m guessing it’s not possible to swap the current bulbs around ie so that every other one is working rather than have four/ five/ six in a row not working? 
    Someone is looking for a large step ladder.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    cafcfan said:
    cafc999 said:
    I’m guessing it’s not possible to swap the current bulbs around ie so that every other one is working rather than have four/ five/ six in a row not working? 
    Sounds like a question for CAST to ask
    No idea about floodlights but with filament bulbs in general, they seem fragile and if you move a  part-used one, they always seem to go pop immediately.  (I'm hoping my retro Christmas lights survived being taken down, I've only got 7 spare bulbs left and they now cost a fortune on eBay.)

    Right, back to Gavin Carter. First, pretty much his whole family was at a match recently and second, Kevin Lisbie calls him "Gav".  That's a good sign isn't it?
    CAST should ask the question of why we appear to have so many lights not working
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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited January 6
    I know to some people, stuff like that won't bother them, but it genuinely pisses me off.

    Like away at Northampton, stickers on their walls from Peterborough fans mocking them over the 5-1. They played them 12 days before they played us and no one checks the stands to take stuff like that down? 

    Again, to some people it might just seem like a moan, but it's a pride thing, graffiti and the likes mocking your own club should be removed fairly promptly. 
    The wall is likely private property in which case the council would need the owner’s consent to remove graffiti. If it’s offensive (I know!), racist or threatening they could act unilaterally. The club has no standing in this and would have no rights but could ask the owner for consent if they wanted to do it.

    This stuff is complicated because of ownership issues even between public bodies, councils and utility companies and the risk of liability if property is damaged. I know because we are targeting it.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,055
    Chunes said:
    How many members of the SMT does it take to change a lightbulb?

    Answer: 8+8+8
    Was going to give you a LOL for that, but you had 8 and that seemed just right 😉
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,276
    edited January 6
    I know to some people, stuff like that won't bother them, but it genuinely pisses me off.

    Like away at Northampton, stickers on their walls from Peterborough fans mocking them over the 5-1. They played them 12 days before they played us and no one checks the stands to take stuff like that down? 

    Again, to some people it might just seem like a moan, but it's a pride thing, graffiti and the likes mocking your own club should be removed fairly promptly. 
    The wall is likely private property in which case the council would need the owner’s consent to remove graffiti. If it’s offensive (I know!), racist or threatening they could act unilaterally. The club has no standing in this and would have no rights but could ask the owner for consent if they wanted to do it.

    This stuff is complicated because of ownership issues even between public bodies, councils and utility companies and the risk of liability if property is damaged. I know because we are targeting it.
    Best that @Braziliance just brings some tipex to the next game with him and sorts it himself

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    I know to some people, stuff like that won't bother them, but it genuinely pisses me off.

    Like away at Northampton, stickers on their walls from Peterborough fans mocking them over the 5-1. They played them 12 days before they played us and no one checks the stands to take stuff like that down? 

    Again, to some people it might just seem like a moan, but it's a pride thing, graffiti and the likes mocking your own club should be removed fairly promptly. 
    The wall is likely private property in which case the council would need the owner’s consent to remove graffiti. If it’s offensive (I know!), racist or threatening they could act unilaterally. The club has no standing in this and would have no rights but could ask the owner for consent if they wanted to do it.

    This stuff is complicated because of ownership issues even between public bodies, councils and utility companies and the risk of liability if property is damaged. I know because we are targeting it.
    Best that @Braziliance just brings some tipex to the next game with him and sorts it himself

    Tipex, showing your age there mate :)
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    I know to some people, stuff like that won't bother them, but it genuinely pisses me off.

    Like away at Northampton, stickers on their walls from Peterborough fans mocking them over the 5-1. They played them 12 days before they played us and no one checks the stands to take stuff like that down? 

    Again, to some people it might just seem like a moan, but it's a pride thing, graffiti and the likes mocking your own club should be removed fairly promptly. 
    The wall is likely private property in which case the council would need the owner’s consent to remove graffiti. If it’s offensive (I know!), racist or threatening they could act unilaterally. The club has no standing in this and would have no rights but could ask the owner for consent if they wanted to do it.

    This stuff is complicated because of ownership issues even between public bodies, councils and utility companies and the risk of liability if property is damaged. I know because we are targeting it.
    I thought it would be something like this, bloody ridiculous but fair enough, thanks for explaining. 

    I know to some people, stuff like that won't bother them, but it genuinely pisses me off.

    Like away at Northampton, stickers on their walls from Peterborough fans mocking them over the 5-1. They played them 12 days before they played us and no one checks the stands to take stuff like that down? 

    Again, to some people it might just seem like a moan, but it's a pride thing, graffiti and the likes mocking your own club should be removed fairly promptly. 
    The wall is likely private property in which case the council would need the owner’s consent to remove graffiti. If it’s offensive (I know!), racist or threatening they could act unilaterally. The club has no standing in this and would have no rights but could ask the owner for consent if they wanted to do it.

    This stuff is complicated because of ownership issues even between public bodies, councils and utility companies and the risk of liability if property is damaged. I know because we are targeting it.
    Best that @Braziliance just brings some tipex to the next game with him and sorts it himself

    Great idea. If it's gone by next home game, it wasn't me  ;)
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    The mural should be restored and treated with anti-grafitti paint IMO as it represents local residents fighting to save their homes but that's not a job for the club or fans.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    The mural should be restored and treated with anti-grafitti paint IMO as it represents local residents fighting to save their homes but that's not a job for the club or fans.
    Should be replaced with a massive mural of Danny Hylton, though not sure the resident would be pleased with their property referred to as ‘The Shithouse”
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    The mural should be restored and treated with anti-grafitti paint IMO as it represents local residents fighting to save their homes but that's not a job for the club or fans.
    Should be replaced with a massive mural of Danny Hylton, though not sure the resident would be pleased with their property referred to as ‘The Shithouse”
    No, that mural will be across the main stand when that becomes the Danny Hyton is a Legend Stand