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Advisory Board Launched - Jon Whitfield and Lewis Catt elected (p8)
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Worked with both James and Izzy and both seem very hardworking and on the ball2
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James was the one who went above and beyond sorting out the names on the screen for the Memorial Day, wasn't he?
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Indeed he was.aliwibble said:James was the one who went above and beyond sorting out the names on the screen for the Memorial Day, wasn't he?1 -
I have emailed them about the lack of a lock on trap three of the men’s AC stand bogs. If rectified it will stop a lot of unwanted fan engagement.clive said:8 -
Not really the point because what I am saying is that Jade is a Charlton fan but gets called out in being put forward for a role which is at best “advisory” but some see no problem with actual decision makers and club figureheads with no Charlton history actively supporting other clubs while on position.Off_it said:
Murray?Airman Brown said:
But OK for such people to be on the board making the substantive decisions? 😉J BLOCK said:
There is no way someone who now supports another club should be voted as our Fan Advisor.ValleyGary said:The fact that someone running for a fan advisory role spends a considerable amount of time and effort paying attention to another team in our league should be made aware to people voting no?
Dont think anyone is questioning her being a Charlton fan or a nice person, just that voters should have the full facts.
It doesn’t ‘hurt us’ but it may have an affect on being a Charlton fan advisor!
At least Jade is a Charlton supporter. We’ve not been well served by people who aren’t, eg Slater, Jimenez, Duchatelet, et al.
But the real point is, we never voted for the people you mentioned either. We had no choice because they were holding the purse strings. I would suggest that this is entirely different, so there's really no correlation. And I say that as a neutral in this - i don't know any of them.
Murray was (at Selhurst Park) watching Charlton long before he became involved as a director. Can’t say that of any of the people I named. I’ve had my differences with him but it’s crazy to equate him with these scumbags.5 -
Absolutely, can't see beach balls being lobbed on the pitch because people are unhappy with the Fans' Advisory Board. The structure still confuses me greatly but if you want to fulfil a role, once the head goes above the parapet you are there to be shot at about things over which you have no control. Fair play to all that have put themselves forward and I really hope something positive comes from it, even things that seem trivial to some that are important to others can be sorted, not just potholes and it isn't just a tick in the box that becomes convoluted. And whoever should prevail, the first response you will need is " I don't pick the team and I'm just as annoyed as you are" after a disappointing result during a long journey home.4
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575 for me… do i pass the test? 😂Braziliance said:JewishJon said:
Don't mind sharing that i have 710 currentlyJustFloydRoad said:
I concur with this. REALISE THE LOYALTY POINTS 🤪Braziliance said:I cannot, fackin believe I've been snubbed for the shortlist for this, after all my support towards the regime.
Who has the most CAFC loyalty points? They'll get my votes.
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You both are my superior (more than me, to which I am not realising since the club threw out my application)- but anyway I bow down to you both for your commitment to the Addicks! 🙇 🗳️lewiscatt91 said:
575 for me… do i pass the test? 😂Braziliance said:JewishJon said:
Don't mind sharing that i have 710 currentlyJustFloydRoad said:
I concur with this. REALISE THE LOYALTY POINTS 🤪Braziliance said:I cannot, fackin believe I've been snubbed for the shortlist for this, after all my support towards the regime.
Who has the most CAFC loyalty points? They'll get my votes.0 -
That's politics these days...robinofottershaw said:Five good candidates. It does seem strange buying your 2 chosen candidates and putting them in your basket!4 -
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Congrats Jon and Lewis. Commiserations Paddy, Jade and Vicky.12
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Well done to both0
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Good old Jewish
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Well done.0
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Catt by name.Cat by nature.Loves sitting on the fence that one.2
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Congrats gents!11
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Many thanks to all who voted. Congratulations to @lewiscatt91and commiserations to @PaddyP17, Jade and Vicky
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Well done lads.Five great candidates, we’re fortunate to have all these people interested in working to help the future of our club whether they won the ballot or not.3
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Absolutely this.Callumcafc said:Congrats Jon and Lewis. Commiserations Paddy, Jade and Vicky.0 -
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Can these two 'represent' the trust and give THEIR questions at the next meeting.0
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Good news. Well done!!!! Woot woot.0
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Congrats to all.shirty5 said:
No mention of the lounge users rep?
Would have liked to hear more about the skills and business/community experience each brings to what is to be an advisory role.
Disappointing that the CAST board member with recent experience of being on the board on a championship club @bobmunro isn't one of the two CAST reps but there maybe geographical or other reasons for that. His HR skills would also have been very useful.0 -
Henry Irving said:
Congrats to all.shirty5 said:
No mention of the lounge users rep?
Would have liked to hear more about the skills and business/community experience each brings to what is to be an advisory role.
Disappointing that the CAST board member with recent experience of being on the board on a championship club @bobmunro isn't one of the two CAST reps but there maybe geographical or other reasons for that. His HR skills would also have been very useful.
Hospitality rep still to be appointed it said I believe.Interesting remit to begin with:- A review of the main areas of the club including finance, operations, sales and marketing, communications, infrastructure
- A status report of the working groups
- Club strategy on long-term planning
Not sure an advisory boards remit should be reviewing operational areas like above, you’d normally employ people with the specific skill sets to do that, I hope the members have plenty of spare time on their hands!!2 -
Which is why the specific skills of the reps in those areas are important.Rob7Lee said:Henry Irving said:
Congrats to all.shirty5 said:
No mention of the lounge users rep?
Would have liked to hear more about the skills and business/community experience each brings to what is to be an advisory role.
Disappointing that the CAST board member with recent experience of being on the board on a championship club @bobmunro isn't one of the two CAST reps but there maybe geographical or other reasons for that. His HR skills would also have been very useful.
Hospitality rep still to be appointed it said I believe.Interesting remit to begin with:- A review of the main areas of the club including finance, operations, sales and marketing, communications, infrastructure
- A status report of the working groups
- Club strategy on long-term planning
Not sure an advisory boards remit should be reviewing operational areas like above, you’d normally employ people with the specific skill sets to do that, I hope the members have plenty of spare time on their hands!!
It is also why the whole design of the advisory board is flawed IMHO.
Should have been people skilled in those five areas plus HR who could then shadow and constructively challenge the SMT drawing on their own specific knowledge and experience.
But it is what it is.
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I must admit to not having followed it from its inception idea to implementation. But the remit does seem a little strange.Henry Irving said:
Which is why the specific skills of the reps in those areas are important.Rob7Lee said:Henry Irving said:
Congrats to all.shirty5 said:
No mention of the lounge users rep?
Would have liked to hear more about the skills and business/community experience each brings to what is to be an advisory role.
Disappointing that the CAST board member with recent experience of being on the board on a championship club @bobmunro isn't one of the two CAST reps but there maybe geographical or other reasons for that. His HR skills would also have been very useful.
Hospitality rep still to be appointed it said I believe.Interesting remit to begin with:- A review of the main areas of the club including finance, operations, sales and marketing, communications, infrastructure
- A status report of the working groups
- Club strategy on long-term planning
Not sure an advisory boards remit should be reviewing operational areas like above, you’d normally employ people with the specific skill sets to do that, I hope the members have plenty of spare time on their hands!!
It is also why the whole design of the advisory board is flawed IMHO.
Should have been people skilled in those five areas plus HR who could then shadow and constructively challenge the SMT drawing on their own specific knowledge and experience.
But it is what it is.
that said after the years we’ve had I’m not going to criticise too heavily, getting fans and stakeholders more involved in the running of the club, ultimately can only be an overall positive.I’m sure it will evolve over time.4 -
Agree. Half a loaf is better than no loaf at all.Rob7Lee said:
I must admit to not having followed it from its inception idea to implementation. But the remit does seem a little strange.Henry Irving said:
Which is why the specific skills of the reps in those areas are important.Rob7Lee said:Henry Irving said:
Congrats to all.shirty5 said:
No mention of the lounge users rep?
Would have liked to hear more about the skills and business/community experience each brings to what is to be an advisory role.
Disappointing that the CAST board member with recent experience of being on the board on a championship club @bobmunro isn't one of the two CAST reps but there maybe geographical or other reasons for that. His HR skills would also have been very useful.
Hospitality rep still to be appointed it said I believe.Interesting remit to begin with:- A review of the main areas of the club including finance, operations, sales and marketing, communications, infrastructure
- A status report of the working groups
- Club strategy on long-term planning
Not sure an advisory boards remit should be reviewing operational areas like above, you’d normally employ people with the specific skill sets to do that, I hope the members have plenty of spare time on their hands!!
It is also why the whole design of the advisory board is flawed IMHO.
Should have been people skilled in those five areas plus HR who could then shadow and constructively challenge the SMT drawing on their own specific knowledge and experience.
But it is what it is.
that said after the years we’ve had I’m not going to criticise too heavily, getting fans and stakeholders more involved in the running of the club, ultimately can only be an overall positive.I’m sure it will evolve over time.2 -
The debate about the importance of specialist expertise versus a broad spectrum of experience is an interesting one.
If clubs look to populate their Advisory Boards (AB) only with individuals with skills in finance, operations, sales and marketing, communications, infrastructure they will inevitably exclude a large number (the majority?) of supporters who could otherwise make very valuable more generic contributions.
I am confident that the individuals who will be on the CAFC AB will be able to offer expertise in some of those areas. But, in the unlikely event that they couldn't, the AB will be able to co-opt specific expertise when it is felt advantageous and to set up specific task groups including specialists.The idea is that the AB will "advise and counsel CAFC and the ownership using current and historical contextual knowledge, critical thinking and analysis". From my knowledge of the current participants they will be very well equipped to do so and will be very aware of when they would benefit from additional specific expertise.
The most encouraging thing for me is that engagement with supporters with their "historical contextual knowledge" will be formalised within the structures and procedures of the club and that liaison will be at the highest level. Of course, it requires all parties to be committed but I think that is a bit more than half a loaf, isn't it?
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I agree with much of what you have said, and as mentioned getting fans/stakeholders involved is a massive plus, hence I think Henry's half a loaf comment.Pico said:The debate about the importance of specialist expertise versus a broad spectrum of experience is an interesting one.
If clubs look to populate their Advisory Boards (AB) only with individuals with skills in finance, operations, sales and marketing, communications, infrastructure they will inevitably exclude a large number (the majority?) of supporters who could otherwise make very valuable more generic contributions.
I am confident that the individuals who will be on the CAFC AB will be able to offer expertise in some of those areas. But, in the unlikely event that they couldn't, the AB will be able to co-opt specific expertise when it is felt advantageous and to set up specific task groups including specialists.The idea is that the AB will "advise and counsel CAFC and the ownership using current and historical contextual knowledge, critical thinking and analysis". From my knowledge of the current participants they will be very well equipped to do so and will be very aware of when they would benefit from additional specific expertise.
The most encouraging thing for me is that engagement with supporters with their "historical contextual knowledge" will be formalised within the structures and procedures of the club and that liaison will be at the highest level. Of course, it requires all parties to be committed but I think that is a bit more than half a loaf, isn't it?
But if we look at the original Fan Engagement Framework in respect of the CAB (my bold):The Charlton Advisory Board (CAB) exists to advise and counsel the club's Board, using current and historical contextual knowledge, critical thinking and analysis. To advise, rather than endorse or oppose, the Advisory Board is independent of the club. It has the key role of protecting the proud heritage of the football club, shaping its fan engagement and using its advanced community development strategy to widen and diversify the fanbase.
The Board widens participation into club matters and makes sure that a diverse range of views and ideas inform the future direction of the club - including its fan engagement and community development strategies. The Charlton Athletic Advisory Board will be at the heart of supporting the club in achieving its vision exemplifying a deeply rooted collective principle that underpins everything it does across the men’s and women’s first-teams, the academy and the Community Trust.
One of the latest key bullet points is :
- A review of the main areas of the club including finance, operations, sales and marketing, communications, infrastructure
Maybe it's a title 'thing' but advisory boards are usually made up of experts in the relevant discipline. I agree that the original specification does fit with experienced fans, historical context, fan engagement etc. Reviewing business processes and such like, in operational departments of a business like finance, operations, sales, marketing and infrastructure doesn't in my view (other than by luck not judgement).
If we read the fans who stood (and were elected), pitches, I would say they may also be very surprised at their new remit!
I’m eager to continue this work on the Advisory Board. My focus will be on improving communication between the club and all supporters, enhancing matchday experiences, and ensuring that fans remain central to everything Charlton does.
If elected, I will work tirelessly to ensure that the fanbase is not only heard but that your feedback directly influences decision-making at the club, as I have done during my time as Fan Advocate, where I have successfully lobbied on ticket pricing, matchday experience, and the club’s broader strategy.
Not sure what Brownie's pitch was to the ex players
Ultimately where I think I and Henry were coming from, if you want a review of very specific areas like has been directed, you really need to be employing people who are experts in those fields, to do so.
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