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Champions League 24/25

Qualifying complete - here are the pots for the new “league phase”


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  • Sky Sports News did an explainer segment earlier ahead of the draw taking place on Thursday


    https://youtu.be/NzH8ORXggDU?si=x_TV3KRebhD6Ut6U
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    The basics to know are that before if you were in Pot 1 you would be drawn in a group with one team from Pot 2, one team from Pot 3 and one team from Pot 4.  

    Now, regardless of which pot you are placed in, you will be drawn eight fixtures with two teams from each pot - four home games, four away games determined randomly by a computer algorithm. 

     So for example, if you were Man City… your group stage fixtures based on last year’s format and this year’s pots might have looked like this:

     Benfica (H) & (A)
    Lille (H) & (A)
    Stuttgart (H) & (A)

     Your fixtures under this new format might look like this instead

     Bayern Munich (H)
    Barcelona (A)
    Benfica (H)
    Atletico Madrid (A)
    Lille (H)
    Dinamo Zagreb (A)
    Stuttgart (H)
    Brest (A)

     It’s a bit of a departure from traditional formats we’re used to as football fans but doing a draw this way is actually quite common in chess tournaments where it works very well to create a fairly balanced table at the conclusion of all the matches. Good teams cannot hide from other good teams until the knockout stages under this format - if you’re Man City or Real Madrid, you are guaranteed two games against other Pot 1 teams.

     I’m looking forward to seeing more high profile games in the early rounds of the competition. Wouldn’t have seen a hypothetical Man City v Bayern Munich group/league stage match under the old format.
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    Another explainer / discussion video. This one from ESPN

     https://youtu.be/abB67QgH2cA?si=YeIpxJjwZYjxrPCR








    And supporting written article if you prefer

    https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/40894613/champions-league-mock-draw-how-new-format-plays-out
  • 5 sides will make their debut appearances since the introduction of the group stage, Aston Villa, Brest, Girona, Slovan Bratislava and Bologna.

    Brest and Girona are making their debut appearances in European football.

  • Just continually squeezing every last penny they can out of the footballs soul, trying their best to appeal to the casual and international fan. Dont be fooled by UEFA's strong reaction to European Super League, if they could get away with it they would.
  • Draw set to begin shortly
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    Funny segment between Zlatan and the UEFA President talking about the new format

    https://x.com/championsleague/status/1829192873188733233?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
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    Man City fixtures: Inter (H), PSG (A), Club Brugge (H), Juventus (A), Feyenoord (H), Sporting (A), Sparta Prague (H), Slovan Bratislava (A)
  • This new format really takes away the excitement (of both the draw and the actual games)
  • Inter fixtures: Man City (A), Leipzig (H), Arsenal (H), Leverkusen (A), Red Star (H), Young Boys (A), Monaco (H), Sparta Prague (A)
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  • Bayern Munich fixtures: PSG (H), Barcelona (A), Bendica (H), Shakhtar (A), Dinamo Zagreb (H), Feyenoord (A), Slovan Bratislava (H), Aston Villa (A)
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    Leipzig fixtures: Inter (A), Liverpool (H), Juventus (H), Atletico Madrid (A), Sporting (H), Celtic (A), Aston Villa (H), Sturm Graz (A)
  • Dortmund fixtures: Barcelona (H), Real Madrid (A), Shakhtar (H), Club Brugge (A), Celtic (H), Dinamo Zagreb (A), Sturm Graz (H), Bologna (A)
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    Barcelona fixtures: Bayern Munich (H), Dortmund (A), Atalanta (H), Benfica (A), Young Boys (H), Red Star (A), Monaco (A), Brest (H)
  • Real Madrid fixtures: Dortmund (H), Liverpool (A), Milan (H), Atalanta (A), Salzburg (H), Lille (A), Stuttgart (H), Brest (A)
  • Liverpool fixtures: Real Madrid (H), Leipzig (A), Leverkusen (H), Milan (A), Lille (H), PSV (A), Bologna (H), Girona (A)
  • PSG fixtures: Man City (H), Bayern Munich (A), Atletico Madrid (H), Arsenal (A), PSV (H), Salzburg (A), Girona (H), Stuttgart (A)
  • The league faze is going to be shite, bar the last game if anyone is at risk.

    Won't get going at all until the knockouts.
  • edited August 29
    Laddick01 said:
    This new format really takes away the excitement (of both the draw and the actual games)
    Disagree - ready to move away from Man City playing the kids in their last two group games because they already qualified…

    The draw is difficult to keep up with but the football should be better and once we get to the knockouts it’s the same anywah
  • Atletico Madrid fixtures: Leipzig (H), PSG (A), Leverkusen (H), Benfica (A), Lille (H), Salzburg (A), Slovan Bratislava (H), Sparta Prague (A)
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  • Atalanta fixtures: Real Madrid (H), Barcelona (A), Arsenal (H), Shakhtar (A), Celtic (H), Young Boys (A), Sturm Graz (H), Stuttgart (A)
  • Club Brugge fixtures: Dortmund (H), Man City (A), Juventus (H), Milan (A), Sporting (H), Celtic (A), Aston Villa (H), Sturm Graz (A)
  • Leverkusen fixtures: Inter (H), Liverpool (A). Milan (H), Atletico Madrid (A), Salzburg (H), Feyenoord (A), Sparta Prague (H)
  • edited August 29
    Laddick01 said:
    This new format really takes away the excitement (of both the draw and the actual games)
    Disagree - ready to move away from Man City playing the kids in their last two group games because they already qualified…

    The draw is difficult to keep up with but the football should be better and once we get to the knockouts it’s the same anywah
    They'll still get enough points to qualify early and rest players.
  • Arsenal fixtures: PSG (H), Inter (A), Atalanta (A), Shakhtar (H), Dinamo Zagreb (H), Sporting (A), Monaco (H), Girona (A)
  • Benfica fixtures: Barcelona (H), Bayern (A), Atletico (H), Juventus (A)
  • Milan fixtures: Liverpool, Real Madrid, Club Brugge, Leverkusen

    They’re going too fast!!
  • Juventus fixtures: Man City, Leipzig, Benfica, Club Brugge, PSV, Lille, Stuttgart, Aston Villa
  • Shakhtar fixtures: Bayern, Dortmund, Atalanta, Arsenal, Young Boys, PSV, Brest, Bologna
  • edited August 29
    Laddick01 said:
    This new format really takes away the excitement (of both the draw and the actual games)
    Disagree - ready to move away from Man City playing the kids in their last two group games because they already qualified…

    The draw is difficult to keep up with but the football should be better and once we get to the knockouts it’s the same anywah
    They'll still get enough points to qualify early and rest players.


    There is incentive to “win” the league and get a seed to avoid other strong teams in the early rounds of the knockouts.

    If City play kids in the last game and lose, they hypothetically drop 2nd to 5th & they’ll have to play a top 4 team in the quarter final instead of a semi final.
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