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EFL on SKY Sports next season; How to watch

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  • cafctom said:
    Croydon said:
    12.30pm Saturday KO's are shite...
    Cynic in me says they're inconveniencing clubs in the lower leagues as a play to remove the 3pm blackout 
    Frankly I’m struggling to see what value Sky get out of spending so much money to show the likes of Doncaster, Barrow, Bromley etc 20 times a season - unless there is some other agenda involved. 

    And let’s be honest, it always ends up coming down to what the Premier League want. No doubt there’s something Sky/EFL/EPL have in mind and are working together here. 
    Yeah, I was thinking this as well. It can't be cheap getting cameras, crew, commentators etc to these places for what must be tiny viewing figures and minimal advertising revenue. But I'm guessing they know their business model better than I do!
  • Going to be some horrible kick off times. Anything other than 3pm Saturday ruins the experience. No one wants to see league one football at 12.30 
    Im quite happy!
  • Jints said:
    cafctom said:
    Croydon said:
    12.30pm Saturday KO's are shite...
    Cynic in me says they're inconveniencing clubs in the lower leagues as a play to remove the 3pm blackout 
    Frankly I’m struggling to see what value Sky get out of spending so much money to show the likes of Doncaster, Barrow, Bromley etc 20 times a season - unless there is some other agenda involved. 

    And let’s be honest, it always ends up coming down to what the Premier League want. No doubt there’s something Sky/EFL/EPL have in mind and are working together here. 
    Yeah, I was thinking this as well. It can't be cheap getting cameras, crew, commentators etc to these places for what must be tiny viewing figures and minimal advertising revenue. But I'm guessing they know their business model better than I do!
    If I had to guess. I’d say they are probably getting good viewing figures for the ‘EFL’ packages they are selling to overseas broadcasters.
  • will definitely have an effect on attendances - there will be some Saturdays I wouldn't make it for a 12.30 KO so would end up watching from home
  • I doubt they are going to do the full prem league coverage of our games. More like the coverage Charlton tv give without the studio pundit and summary part. 
    Commentators on the game do not have to be at the stadium they can commentate from camera coverage,  just as TMS do for big bash games from Australia and England overseas tours quiet often.
  • Saturday is changeover day in our cottage.
    I just about manage to sit down for the 3pm kick offs.
    Wankers 😞
  • is this just to let the football league as it stands wither on the vine. Attendances will drop, advertising revenues will be minimal, the only way to "save" it will be to let B sides in from the preimer clubs.
    Not looking forward to the Boxing Day 2028 fixture against PalaceB or ArsenalC
  • cafctom said:
    Croydon said:
    12.30pm Saturday KO's are shite...
    Cynic in me says they're inconveniencing clubs in the lower leagues as a play to remove the 3pm blackout 
    Frankly I’m struggling to see what value Sky get out of spending so much money to show the likes of Doncaster, Barrow, Bromley etc 20 times a season - unless there is some other agenda involved. 

    And let’s be honest, it always ends up coming down to what the Premier League want. No doubt there’s something Sky/EFL/EPL have in mind and are working together here. 
    Yes, you may be right there Tom, there's some kind of longer term strategy going on I'm sure. Among what I've heard from various pods over the last little while and from a few articles, some of these possibilities may be in the mix:-

    The UK TV audience numbers for the Prem are or have maxed out. I know myself I'm watching less and less Premier football, I'm getting fed up, it's almost like watching computer generated stuff such are the technical skills and styles of play most teams aspire to. Together with the inclination to win fouls every chance they get, I'm happier to watch a 90 minute summary on MOTD than struggle through 100 minutes of sanitised football on a Saturday and Sunday. I watch more form the WSL and lower leagues than I ever used to........ it seems more like proper football. Perhaps Sky need the EFL more than they ever did in order to retain and keep growing a paying UK audience?

    There's also the possibility that some of the bigger clubs see themselves marketing and selling their own global TV rights, or maybe some of them will club together to do it? No doubt Sky have a handle on what would happen to their audience if something like that happened........... or I guess if the Super League ever came about? Sky would like to have a loyal and growing EFL audience if the Prem wasn't available to them.
  • aliwibble said:
    Seems very clear. I'm on NOW and its £18 a month. 
    Really? Last time I looked at the monthly sports pass they were more than 30 quid.
    I think it's the algorithm at work, I had this offer after having a monthly pass so I could watch the darts and not renewing it. 
  • Croydon said:
    12.30pm Saturday KO's are shite...
    Cynic in me says they're inconveniencing clubs in the lower leagues as a play to remove the 3pm blackout 
    Yep
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  • edited May 9
    No one wants to see league one football at 12.30 
    No one wants to see League One football generally....
  • Confused so 20 of our 46 fixtures will not be at 3pm on a Saturday due to the blackout that means correct?
  • JaShea99 said:
    It always makes me laugh how people like to speak for everyone with things like this. Eg.‘everyone hates 12:30 kick offs’. If it’s a massive game, you need a decent atmosphere and you’re gonna spend the whole day drinking, then it’s probably not the best. However, if you want to be away by half 2 and/or you’ve got commitments in the afternoon/evening then 12:30s can be quite convenient. A 3pm kick off often means it takes up the whole day and it’s hard to fit other things in.
    12.30 kick offs aren’t convenient if you have kids that play sport/ do activities at the weekend 

    matches kick off 10am-1.30pm in general 
    training 9- midday 
    so if you’ve got an away game or live a bit further out it becomes a problem 


    Sure. That’s not the case for everyone though.
  • Confused so 20 of our 46 fixtures will not be at 3pm on a Saturday due to the blackout that means correct?
    Yes, but if you look at last season because of games moved to Internationals, games on bank holidays and the standard midweek games, we played 14 league games not on Saturday 3pm anyway. So the only difference will be there will be 5 or 6 occasions where we kick off at 12.30 on a Saturday, and maybe an extra midweek game
  • Great i don't go midweek and I doubt I'll hold much interest in 12.30 KO. Wish I read before renewing.
  • JaShea99 said:
    JaShea99 said:
    It always makes me laugh how people like to speak for everyone with things like this. Eg.‘everyone hates 12:30 kick offs’. If it’s a massive game, you need a decent atmosphere and you’re gonna spend the whole day drinking, then it’s probably not the best. However, if you want to be away by half 2 and/or you’ve got commitments in the afternoon/evening then 12:30s can be quite convenient. A 3pm kick off often means it takes up the whole day and it’s hard to fit other things in.
    12.30 kick offs aren’t convenient if you have kids that play sport/ do activities at the weekend 

    matches kick off 10am-1.30pm in general 
    training 9- midday 
    so if you’ve got an away game or live a bit further out it becomes a problem 


    Sure. That’s not the case for everyone though.
    I bet it's the case for more than people realise though 
  • JaShea99 said:
    It always makes me laugh how people like to speak for everyone with things like this. Eg.‘everyone hates 12:30 kick offs’. If it’s a massive game, you need a decent atmosphere and you’re gonna spend the whole day drinking, then it’s probably not the best. However, if you want to be away by half 2 and/or you’ve got commitments in the afternoon/evening then 12:30s can be quite convenient. A 3pm kick off often means it takes up the whole day and it’s hard to fit other things in.
    12.30 kick offs aren’t convenient if you have kids that play sport/ do activities at the weekend 

    matches kick off 10am-1.30pm in general 
    training 9- midday 
    so if you’ve got an away game or live a bit further out it becomes a problem 


    Let them get the bus
  • JaShea99 said:
    It always makes me laugh how people like to speak for everyone with things like this. Eg.‘everyone hates 12:30 kick offs’. If it’s a massive game, you need a decent atmosphere and you’re gonna spend the whole day drinking, then it’s probably not the best. However, if you want to be away by half 2 and/or you’ve got commitments in the afternoon/evening then 12:30s can be quite convenient. A 3pm kick off often means it takes up the whole day and it’s hard to fit other things in.
    12.30 kick offs aren’t convenient if you have kids that play sport/ do activities at the weekend 

    matches kick off 10am-1.30pm in general 
    training 9- midday 
    so if you’ve got an away game or live a bit further out it becomes a problem 


    Let them get the bus
    Fuck off , any excuse not to watch League One scrap im  taking 

    3am kick offs please ,  I can’t make them cos I’m poooooing 
  • Great i don't go midweek and I doubt I'll hold much interest in 12.30 KO. Wish I read before renewing.
    It won't only affect our home games though so likely to affect 2 or 3 home games maximum 
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  • red10 said:
    Sorry, not understanding this at all well. Does this finally mean that for overseas viewers Charlton TV is dead in the water?.
    No, international streaming will still be available for 3pm kick offs. Whether it includes Minto Curbs and Brown in the studio is still up in the air.
    I was under the impression all games, whether on sky or not, would be available internationally as it is not legal to watch sky outside the UK? Or have I got it arse about face again?    
  • edited May 9
    Fu*k off Sky...dictating when we can watch OUR club...3.00 pm Saturday ( apart from midweek)  is when football should be played, not 12.30 ffs,...bloody dictatorship in disguise...at least Dick Turpin wore a mask...🤑🤑🤑
  • edited May 9
    red10 said:
    Sorry, not understanding this at all well. Does this finally mean that for overseas viewers Charlton TV is dead in the water?.
    No, international streaming will still be available for 3pm kick offs. Whether it includes Minto Curbs and Brown in the studio is still up in the air.
    I was under the impression all games, whether on sky or not, would be available internationally as it is not legal to watch sky outside the UK? Or have I got it arse about face again?    
    I think there’ll be a stream available but the legality of it could be up in the air with streaming in certain territories. They are going to be on Sky which you’d think means they’ll be available for international broadcasters to pick up as well.

    And if those matches are picked up by those broadcasters, in all likelihood they won’t be available on Charlton TV in that broadcaster’s country.

    It’s the same with any TV game of seasons past. If it was on Sky, Charlton TV couldn’t show it internationally (in most territories) because that meant it was also on DAZN, ESPN, SuperSport, BeIN and other channels around the world.


    I suppose it will all depend on whether the EFL & Sky will differentiate between regularly broadcast games and these new additional streamed games.
  • edited May 9
    https://theathletic.com/5317724/2024/03/05/efl-global-tv-rights-new-deal/

    The English Football League (EFL) has secured record deals of at least £148million ($188m) for its international TV rights across a four-season period.

    The new deals ensure record guaranteed international rights fees for EFL clubs, with two agencies, Pitch International and Relevent Sports, representing the organisation across global TV markets until the conclusion of the 2027-28 campaign.

    The deals could see the EFL — which runs the second, third and fourth tiers of English football (the Championship, League One and League Two), as well as the League Cup and the EFL Trophy — bank more than the minimum guaranteed £148m, which in itself is a 40 per cent increase from the previous agreements.

    The EFL will receive at least $132m from Pitch (which covers Europe, the Middle East and North Africa, sub-Saharan Africa, Asia, Australia and New Zealand) and $56m from Relevent (the Americas), which is the agency selling UEFA’s TV rights in the U.S.

    Under these deals, Pitch International will distribute 155 Championship games, 38 League One and League Two matches, all promotion play-off fixtures, Carabao Cup rounds, and three EFL Trophy matches.

    Relevent Sports, meanwhile, will sell all EFL matches, promotion play-off games, Carabao Cup rounds, and three EFL Trophy fixtures across the Americas. Additionally, they will manage all betting rights throughout the United States.

    Pitch International will provide EFL rights in Europe, MENA, and other regions worldwide. Relevent Sports will spearhead distribution throughout North, Central, and South America, aiming to bolster clubs’ profiles in these regions through dedicated marketing endeavours.

    The EFL said in a statement that as part of the new agreement, “clubs will be able to continue international streaming services direct to fans overseas, where matches are not being broadcast exclusively, enabling those based abroad the chance to watch their team’s matches throughout the whole season”.

  • So exactly much money will each league one club be getting with new TV deal ? Are we talking millions ? 
  • edsaddick said:
    So exactly much money will each league one club be getting with new TV deal ? Are we talking millions ? 
    No. An extra £450,000 for Sky sports deal
  • msomerton said:
    edsaddick said:
    So exactly much money will each league one club be getting with new TV deal ? Are we talking millions ? 
    No. An extra £450,000 for Sky sports deal
    Per year ? 
  • Yes each season. The Millions go to the Championship.
  • msomerton said:
    edsaddick said:
    So exactly much money will each league one club be getting with new TV deal ? Are we talking millions ? 
    No. An extra £450,000 for Sky sports deal
    So with the clubs losing fans to tele I imagine not much better off.
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