Still can't believe he got the deal he did last year.
Seems to have all the technical ability but none of the other side of the game. Couldn't get in a struggling (at that time) Crawley side. Would be very surprised if he stayed.
From the few reviews I saw from Wealdstone fans, even they weren't overly impressed when he returned there.
Never know Jones may be the one to be able to get something from him, but be surprised.
to be fair cant argue with that list, had a soft spot for Chin but he hasn't exactly set the world alight on any of his loans. Glad Hector has gone, thought Thomas could do a job but you need more than that to get promoted.
Still can't believe he got the deal he did last year.
A quick google shows he's been National League standard this season.
Anderson has been better than Henry has ever been for Charlton, Coventry is more similar of a player and he's looked better, even in his off games.
Henry had a wicked shot on him in the right situations, but was otherwise average at reading the game, picking passes, closing players and tackling. I don't want to bash him too hard but think L2 is going to be his ceiling, which is no mean feat but still not good enough for Charlton.
Not sure why we renewed him either given all of that.
I think Dobso staying was a long shot, personally I'm very happy with that, I'd have only kept Dobo, Small and Campbell. All the others I'm glad to see go. I total rebuild is needed and we need to be shopping in very different places this time round then where we have for the past 5 seasons, I think history clearly shows that.
Get the feeling Jones might try and 'release' quite a few of those still under contract as well (by selling them any way we can). If he can offload Hector so CALLOUSLY then there's a swathe of them who played significantly worse that he won't want around either
You recovered from losing NabySarr You will recover from losing Hector.
I look forward to seeing your next player to champion. Keep the faith Leuth. 😉
Would've liked to have kept Wickham but totally get why it probably isn't sensible.
It was a case of ‘in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king’ with Connor Wickham. In his cameo appearances he stood out because he can and does do the right things, however he’s not a promotion season viable option because he’s not going to be playing match after match. If there’s enough in the budget after the other places are filled i think he’s still got something to offer the squad though.
Get the feeling Jones might try and 'release' quite a few of those still under contract as well (by selling them any way we can). If he can offload Hector so CALLOUSLY then there's a swathe of them who played significantly worse that he won't want around either
You recovered from losing NabySarr You will recover from losing Hector.
I look forward to seeing your next player to champion. Keep the faith Leuth. 😉
I thought it might be Gillesphey but actually I'm starting to think he's not great either. It has to be a centre-back too. I'm running low on options. REG? He doesn't have the expansive passing range of the others, but he does have the enterprising forward burst in his arsenal
Get the feeling Jones might try and 'release' quite a few of those still under contract as well (by selling them any way we can). If he can offload Hector so CALLOUSLY then there's a swathe of them who played significantly worse that he won't want around either
You recovered from losing NabySarr You will recover from losing Hector.
I look forward to seeing your next player to champion. Keep the faith Leuth. 😉
I thought it might be Gillesphey but actually I'm starting to think he's not great either. It has to be a centre-back too. I'm running low on options. REG?
Think the final paragraph of the article closes the door on Dobson:
In particular, the club would like to thank George Dobson, who has played 144 games for Charlton since joining in 2021. He's given his all for the club in every training session and every game and everyone at the club wishes him all the best in Hungary.
Thank God I never have to see Hector in a Charlton shirt again, ambling around the pitch, going through the motions, constantly out of position and then pointing at others when the ball inevitably ends up in the back of our net.
As many others have said, can see another 6 or 7 leaving which would be the right move going forward. The squad in general does not look anywhere near strong enough, which highlights further the amount of work needed ahead of the season starting.
Shame about Wickham as I think if he can somehow stay fit for the majority of a season, he’d be a great player for this level.
I’m going to say 7 players to leave and 9 players to come in, all who are first team starting eleven players.
I mean, honestly? It's probably a good sign that Hector has been released, even if I wouldn't have done it personally. It shows that there really is about to be a huge shift in playing staff, and that the ambitions are higher than having Jamaica's captain. I await our signings with excitement
Think the final paragraph of the article closes the door on Dobson:
In particular, the club would like to thank George Dobson, who has played 144 games for Charlton since joining in 2021. He's given his all for the club in every training session and every game and everyone at the club wishes him all the best in Hungary.
No real surprises,regards Fraser,there was a very good footballer there 2 years ago,perhaps Jones can get that level back,but we do need someone who can carry the ball and get a few goals.
Charlton made a number of contract offers to George Dobson pre and post Christmas. The midfielder has signed a pre-contract agreement with Hungarian club Fehérvár.
Am I the only one reading that and thinking - there's nothing new there that we didn't already know ergo that door is NOT completely closed. Perhaps discussions ongoing. That is far from a definitive statement imo
Delighted. Higher standards needed for our CBs. Teams don't get promoted by constantly giving away cheap goals away and Hector, Thomas, Innis, etc... were bona fide experts in switching off in key moments. Standards need to be much higher.
I think Jones is the one to drive those standards and to find the players who live up to them
I hope next season we start with a much more consistent backline
Goalkeepers: Ashley Maynard-Brewer Harry Isted Neither of these looks like a firm Number 1, maybe the cheaper one is kept as reserve and offers invited for the other Need Better
Right Backs: Looks like we've got adequate cover here for the first time in about 3 seasons Kayne Ramsay Nathan Asiimwe Tennai Watson
Centre Backs: Based on what they did this last season we could be in for another defensively catastrophic season - they've all been several sorts of dreadful on many occasions. REG is the least bad, Ness and Mitchell have scope for development. Very rigorous pre-season of basic coaching needed to get this lot anywhere near standard - Radical surgery probably needed but financially very difficult Lloyd Jones Lucas Ness Macaulay Gillesphey Rarmani Edmonds-Green Zack Mitchell
Left Backs: Need at least one more Tayo Edun - nope Thierry Small - definitely yes
Central Midfielders: McUseless and Pvt Fraser need to be found clubs far far away from SE7 & SE9 to be replaced with a new Dobbo and a creative sparkler Aaron Henry Nope Conor Coventry maybe Conor McGrandles Oh God No!! Karoy Anderson Definitely Scott Fraser nope Terry Thomas dunno yet haven't seen enough
Wingers: Tyreece Campbell yep
Strikers: Alfie May the best - the problem here may be resisting offers from higher up Chuks Aneke broken Daniel Kanu still learning but continuing to improve Miles Leaburn lethal when fit. At 20 he'll just be getting stronger all the time - there's been a lot of guff dribbled about his "injury problems" He got Done by a Welling thug in preseason which fnucked his season right up and then did a hamstring - tall young players may be susceptible to muscle and tendon pulls but with the time he's had, not being rushed back and a steady full pre-season he should be fine come August. He's taller than Chuks, he's faster than Chuks, he's damn near as strong as Chuks he'll be giving 3rd division defenders nightmares, bruises and bruises on their nightmares. The next problem with ML will be keeping him in the January deluge of Championship offers but NJ and the owners can cross that bridge when we get there (at the top of League 1)
23 players, so only 3 less than Jones' magic 26 as it stands, and he definitely wants 3 keepers.
Of the above, i expect 6 or 7 of them to be moved out minimum, either on loan or being sold, especially in central midfield and centre backs, and I expect 10 or 11 signings to then cover that and fill any gaps. Can't argue with the numbers needed my concern is the cost of that much recruitment, a few duffers may have to be carried for a while.
Fairly happy with the list apart from Dobson but was always
a small hope something would be sorted.
I agree still think many more will be shipped out one way or
another with Jones making it clear they have no future here.
I think the budget goes into around 9-10 starters and the others
make up the squad to push for starts.
Jones must have control we can’t keep making the same
recruitment mistakes that is leaving us with so many players the current
manager did not pick or fit into there plans on contracts. This is now got to
be a Jones project for the long term.
Charlton made a number of contract offers to George Dobson pre and post Christmas. The midfielder has signed a pre-contract agreement with Hungarian club Fehérvár.
Am I the only one reading that and thinking - there's nothing new there that we didn't already know ergo that door is NOT completely closed. Perhaps discussions ongoing. That is far from a definitive statement imo
And the bit lower down where they wish him all the best in Hungary after reiterating his professionalism in every game and training session?
No real surprises,regards Fraser,there was a very good footballer there 2 years ago,perhaps Jones can get that level back,but we do need someone who can carry the ball and get a few goals.
Here we go again…. the old ‘we can still get a tune out of a player’ line, he isn’t interested in playing a part in promotion push and has been involved in the utter dross we have been served up these past 2/3 years.
Get the feeling Jones might try and 'release' quite a few of those still under contract as well (by selling them any way we can). If he can offload Hector so CALLOUSLY then there's a swathe of them who played significantly worse that he won't want around either
You recovered from losing NabySarr You will recover from losing Hector.
I look forward to seeing your next player to champion. Keep the faith Leuth. 😉
I thought it might be Gillesphey but actually I'm starting to think he's not great either. It has to be a centre-back too. I'm running low on options. REG?
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Never know Jones may be the one to be able to get something from him, but be surprised.
Anderson has been better than Henry has ever been for Charlton, Coventry is more similar of a player and he's looked better, even in his off games.
Henry had a wicked shot on him in the right situations, but was otherwise average at reading the game, picking passes, closing players and tackling. I don't want to bash him too hard but think L2 is going to be his ceiling, which is no mean feat but still not good enough for Charlton.
Not sure why we renewed him either given all of that.
You will recover from losing Hector.
I look forward to seeing your next player to champion.
Keep the faith Leuth. 😉
Pleased for Campbell and delighted he is staying.
As said already, a few others who might to let go for free if deals can be done such as Fraser.
Let the rebuild begin.
In particular, the club would like to thank George Dobson, who has played 144 games for Charlton since joining in 2021. He's given his all for the club in every training session and every game and everyone at the club wishes him all the best in Hungary.
Shame about Wickham as I think if he can somehow stay fit for the majority of a season, he’d be a great player for this level.
I’m going to say 7 players to leave and 9 players to come in, all who are first team starting eleven players.
As in OK, but not ours any more.
Am I the only one reading that and thinking - there's nothing new there that we didn't already know ergo that door is NOT completely closed. Perhaps discussions ongoing. That is far from a definitive statement imo
I think Jones is the one to drive those standards and to find the players who live up to them
I hope next season we start with a much more consistent backline
And we will be listening to offers for
Mcgrandells
Fraser
Taylor
Fairly happy with the list apart from Dobson but was always a small hope something would be sorted.
I agree still think many more will be shipped out one way or another with Jones making it clear they have no future here.
I think the budget goes into around 9-10 starters and the others make up the squad to push for starts.
Jones must have control we can’t keep making the same recruitment mistakes that is leaving us with so many players the current manager did not pick or fit into there plans on contracts. This is now got to be a Jones project for the long term.
The. Door. Is. Closed