Keep it, we've managed to avoid the abomination that is goal music for which I am thankful. Red Red Robin is ours, its unique and rightly should remain never to be tampered with or otherwise dephiled. So many clubs have had to fabricate something similar and its just that, fabricated.
On Saturday Curbs had a story about a Tony Cottee anecdote (or did Curbs have an anecdote about a Tony Cotte story?), that when he used to play at the Valley he would get nervous with it being a derby game and the Valley being quite intimidating, then the Red Red Robin would come on and all his angst would immediately disappear.
I'm still for keeping it though
Another poster said it was Tony Gale, who never played in Prem vs Charlton - in any event, same applies to Cottee, he never played against us in the Prem
Unless of course Curbs is saying Prem, when he actually means old Div 1, however even then, no Div 1 games were played at The Valley in the 80’s…..
Cottee scored twice against us in our first season in the premier league for Leicester at the Valley in the League Cup
Just under 20,000 in attendance that night
Wow - great knowledge, albeit not a derby match though
Aren’t they the team we’ve played against the most times? The eternal derby really.
I thought the team we have played the most is Pompey
yes .. it's a symbol/symptom of an old fashioned backward looking club just wallowing in nostalgia, I mean referring to a large number of the aging fanbase, not necessarily the owners who I am sure are a dynamic bunch of thrusting, looking far into the future investors
On Saturday Curbs had a story about a Tony Cottee anecdote (or did Curbs have an anecdote about a Tony Cotte story?), that when he used to play at the Valley he would get nervous with it being a derby game and the Valley being quite intimidating, then the Red Red Robin would come on and all his angst would immediately disappear.
I'm still for keeping it though
Another poster said it was Tony Gale, who never played in Prem vs Charlton - in any event, same applies to Cottee, he never played against us in the Prem
Unless of course Curbs is saying Prem, when he actually means old Div 1, however even then, no Div 1 games were played at The Valley in the 80’s…..
Cottee scored twice against us in our first season in the premier league for Leicester at the Valley in the League Cup
Just under 20,000 in attendance that night
Wow - great knowledge, albeit not a derby match though
Aren’t they the team we’ve played against the most times? The eternal derby really.
I thought the team we have played the most is Pompey
On Saturday Curbs had a story about a Tony Cottee anecdote (or did Curbs have an anecdote about a Tony Cotte story?), that when he used to play at the Valley he would get nervous with it being a derby game and the Valley being quite intimidating, then the Red Red Robin would come on and all his angst would immediately disappear.
I'm still for keeping it though
Another poster said it was Tony Gale, who never played in Prem vs Charlton - in any event, same applies to Cottee, he never played against us in the Prem
Unless of course Curbs is saying Prem, when he actually means old Div 1, however even then, no Div 1 games were played at The Valley in the 80’s…..
Cottee scored twice against us in our first season in the premier league for Leicester at the Valley in the League Cup
Just under 20,000 in attendance that night
Wow - great knowledge, albeit not a derby match though
Aren’t they the team we’ve played against the most times? The eternal derby really.
I thought the team we have played the most is Pompey
Correct…..followed by Middlesborough
Was it ever Leicester or have I just totally made that up?
On Saturday Curbs had a story about a Tony Cottee anecdote (or did Curbs have an anecdote about a Tony Cotte story?), that when he used to play at the Valley he would get nervous with it being a derby game and the Valley being quite intimidating, then the Red Red Robin would come on and all his angst would immediately disappear.
I'm still for keeping it though
Another poster said it was Tony Gale, who never played in Prem vs Charlton - in any event, same applies to Cottee, he never played against us in the Prem
Unless of course Curbs is saying Prem, when he actually means old Div 1, however even then, no Div 1 games were played at The Valley in the 80’s…..
Cottee scored twice against us in our first season in the premier league for Leicester at the Valley in the League Cup
Just under 20,000 in attendance that night
Wow - great knowledge, albeit not a derby match though
Aren’t they the team we’ve played against the most times? The eternal derby really.
I thought the team we have played the most is Pompey
Correct…..followed by Middlesborough
Was it ever Leicester or have I just totally made that up?
I’ve never heard that it’s Leicester…..so I guess you made it up. 🫢
Yesterday was our 108th league meeting with Pompey. They are the team we've met most.
League only
1 Pompey 108
2 Middlesbrough 96
3 Bolton 90
4 Derby 87 (88 on Tuesday)
5 Huddersfield 86
6 Sunderland 78
7 Norwich 75
= 8 Millwall & Wolves 74
10 Plymouth 74
We've played also Boro 10 times in cups but haven't had time to work out the other opponents cup games. We played Pompey in the Anglo Italian cup and Derby in the FA Cup Final.
Everton run out to the theme from bloody Z Cars, and you never see them struggl... oh, er hang on...
Z cars theme is an instrumental version of The Ballad of Johnny Todd. It’s an old song sung by sailors popular in and around Liverpool docks and was sung in schools in Liverpool. The story is about a sailor, Johnny Todd who went to sea leaving the love of his life at home. When he returned he found out she had fell for another man while he was at sea, hence the term ‘on your todd’
At least that is what I was told by a scouser I know who claimed they sung it at school in the late 60s.
Yesterday was our 108th league meeting with Pompey. They are the team we've met most.
League only
1 Pompey 108
2 Middlesbrough 96
3 Bolton 90
4 Derby 87 (88 on Tuesday)
5 Huddersfield 86
6 Sunderland 78
7 Norwich 75
= 8 Millwall & Wolves 74
10 Plymouth 74
We've played also Boro 10 times in cups but haven't had time to work out the other opponents cup games. We played Pompey in the Anglo Italian cup and Derby in the FA Cup Final.
Only Millwall are a London side.
I'm amazed by the Millwall stat as we only played them a couple of times in the JS era. Both wins I think.
yes .. it's a symbol/symptom of an old fashioned backward looking club just wallowing in nostalgia, I mean referring to a large number of the aging fanbase, not necessarily the owners who I am sure are a dynamic bunch of thrusting, looking far into the future investors
Everton run out to the theme from bloody Z Cars, and you never see them struggl... oh, er hang on...
Z cars theme is an instrumental version of The Ballad of Johnny Todd. It’s an old song sung by sailors popular in and around Liverpool docks and was sung in schools in Liverpool. The story is about a sailor, Johnny Todd who went to sea leaving the love of his life at home. When he returned he found out she had fell for another man while he was at sea, hence the term ‘on your todd’
At least that is what I was told by a scouser I know who claimed they sung it at school in the late 60s.
Is Paul Tracey a Charlton fan or did @SE7toSG3 write that?
Still needed a 78RPM of the original for the museum.
We have vinyl 45s including the one @BDL played on 5/12/92 and a gold disc version.
I assume it was written by the Fusiler Museum - reckon if CAFC Museum get in touch with them, they can give additional info about Billy Cotton
I think you should also ‘tap up’ Michael Grade, given it was through his family that Mr Grade became an Addick
When I approached him at h/t last season he was superb to chat to - loved the fact I asked - very open about his start as an Addick
Get it written down, before it’s too late …..
RRR is a huge part of our history
Mr Grade is also part of our history - I remember before the Pompey back to The Valley game, he wrote a brilliant newspaper article (in the Guardian ? - not sure) where he told people about a club in SE London, which he loves, and the upcoming homecoming was more important than any other match taking place that w/e anywhere
Assume you're only counting league, FA Cup, League Cup, Anglo Italian and play-offs?
PS can I nick this for the museum's twitter?
No doesn't include tomorrow's game in those figures. Yes absolutely you're welcome to use it. It's all senior games since 1920/21, so League, playoffs, FA Cup, League Cup, Anglo Italian, EFL Trophy and Full Members Cup.
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I'm glad Everton have kept Z Cars as well.
1. Portsmouth 116
2. Middlesbrough 106
3. Bolton 95
4. Derby 92
5. Huddersfield 90
6. Wolves 85
7. Sunderland 83
7. Norwich 83
9. Blackburn 81
10. Cardiff 77
We've played also Boro 10 times in cups but haven't had time to work out the other opponents cup games. We played Pompey in the Anglo Italian cup and Derby in the FA Cup Final.
Only Millwall are a London side.
Total teams played since then, including U21/Reserve teams in the Southern League and EFL Trophy is 146 for anyone interested.
This site is good for such things, you have to deduct the cup games to get the league totals, but useful none the less.
It’s an old song sung by sailors popular in and around Liverpool docks and was sung in schools in Liverpool.
The story is about a sailor, Johnny Todd who went to sea leaving the love of his life at home. When he returned he found out she had fell for another man while he was at sea, hence the term ‘on your todd’
At least that is what I was told by a scouser I know who claimed they sung it at school in the late 60s.
Sarcasm is, indeed, the highest form of wit
Is Paul Tracey a Charlton fan or did @SE7toSG3 write that?
Still needed a 78RPM of the original for the museum.
We have vinyl 45s including the one @BDL played on 5/12/92 and a gold disc version.
Does the Derby total include tomorrow's game?
Assume you're only counting league, FA Cup, League Cup, Anglo Italian and play-offs?
PS can I nick this for the museum's twitter?
In the 60s school kids sang folk songs and religious songs in school, and maybe church, so I'm told 😉
Hence why lots of 70s football chants were based on hymns and folk/popular songs eg bread of heaven/we can see you sneaking out.
And Z Cars was set on Merseyside
I think you should also ‘tap up’ Michael Grade, given it was through his family that Mr Grade became an Addick
When I approached him at h/t last season he was superb to chat to - loved the fact I asked - very open about his start as an Addick
Get it written down, before it’s too late …..
RRR is a huge part of our history
Mr Grade is also part of our history - I remember before the Pompey back to The Valley game, he wrote a brilliant newspaper article (in the Guardian ? - not sure) where he told people about a club in SE London, which he loves, and the upcoming homecoming was more important than any other match taking place that w/e anywhere
👏
Do you want to get rid?
yes keep it
no get rid
🤷🏻♂️
‘Still bob, bob, bobbing along after 65 years…’
The Chairman said that with Mr Billy Cotton’s co-operation a record would be made with suitable
In the Clive Harris piece I think he means ‘Al Jolson’ not ‘Al Johnson’.