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London Overground - new line names revealed.
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Is it because an example of an equivalent amount of public money being spent, solving a (another?) problem that didn't exist, (and purely for the political gain of the Tories) was given? And that some of those happy with this situation have a problem with Khan, apparently, doing the same. Seems a not unreasonable counterpoint to make given the tone of this thread.SporadicAddick said:
How do you think?Off_it said:How did a thread about the names of train lines turn into a debate about voter ID?
But let's be honest, there's a lot of people out there, and on here apparently, who are very easily triggered by certain political figures...yet are also very happy to shut down any criticism or scrutiny aimed at others whose views they align with.
Khan certainly falls into the first category.6 -
Covered End said:Great thread, classic CL.
Fwiw I didn't realise there was a London Overground until about 15 years ago, when I discovered you could go to Alexander Palace on the overground, rather only Wood Green on the underground.
It's definitely a good idea to have the underground, overground and DLR all on the same map.
So that you can womble free, presumably.
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W Hart Lane train station is also an option, but not really an easy choice from South/S E LondonCovered End said:
Good point.seth plum said:There has always been a London overground service. I am pretty sure you could get overground trains from West Hampstead when I was a student to places like the station next to Tottenham Hotspur and other places like Bethnal Green.
Spurs nearest stations are White Hart Lane or Bruce Grove on the overground & my dad took me there late 60's.0 -
What's wrong with the traditional names?2
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They are based almost wholly on identity politics.Stig said:
Nothing. What's wrong with new names?LenGlover said:What's wrong with the traditional names?
some think that’s good.
Others think that is divisive.
so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.
and I think that somewhat proves the point.2 -
In a way that Bakerloo, Elizabeth, Jubilee, Victoria and Waterloo & City aren't?SporadicAddick said:
They are based almost wholly on identity politics.Stig said:
Nothing. What's wrong with new names?LenGlover said:What's wrong with the traditional names?
some think that’s good.
Others think that is divisive.
so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.
and I think that somewhat proves the point.6 -
Correct.Stig said:
In a way that Bakerloo, Elizabeth, Jubilee, Victoria and Waterloo & City aren't?SporadicAddick said:
They are based almost wholly on identity politics.Stig said:
Nothing. What's wrong with new names?LenGlover said:What's wrong with the traditional names?
some think that’s good.
Others think that is divisive.
so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.
and I think that somewhat proves the point.5 -
Not quite the same is it, because on here there are different "conversations" on different topics going on simultaneously and you can choose which subjects you contribute to, then move onto another and then come back.Algarveaddick said:Off_it said:Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.
For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.
Good point that offy.
So, fifteen years ago, someone rebranded all those lines into "London Overground". As this current rebranding is apparently all Khan's fault, I can't help wondering whose fault it was in 2009? Who might have been mayor at the time, anyone have any idea?
Regarding how threads get de-railed, next time you are chatting with mates in the pub, make sure you stick to one topic at a time, and then agree to stop talking about that and start talking about something else. It's unnatural for conversations to evolve, after all...
What happens when a thread gets derailed, to put it in a pub context, is often the equivalent of you having a discussion at the bar about a particular subject and some random person walks over, stands in the middle of your group and shouts "Fish, fish! Look at me, I want to talk about fish! Fishy fishy fish fish!"7 -
You obviously know the origins behind the names that Stig reminds us of ? If you do then your previous assertion is completely redundant.SporadicAddick said:
Correct.Stig said:
In a way that Bakerloo, Elizabeth, Jubilee, Victoria and Waterloo & City aren't?SporadicAddick said:
They are based almost wholly on identity politics.Stig said:
Nothing. What's wrong with new names?LenGlover said:What's wrong with the traditional names?
some think that’s good.
Others think that is divisive.
so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.
and I think that somewhat proves the point.2 -
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Only if you don’t understand the concept of identity politics…ShootersHillGuru said:
You obviously know the origins behind the names that Stig reminds us of ? If you do then your previous assertion is completely redundant.SporadicAddick said:
Correct.Stig said:
In a way that Bakerloo, Elizabeth, Jubilee, Victoria and Waterloo & City aren't?SporadicAddick said:
They are based almost wholly on identity politics.Stig said:
Nothing. What's wrong with new names?LenGlover said:What's wrong with the traditional names?
some think that’s good.
Others think that is divisive.
so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.
and I think that somewhat proves the point.2 -
Can you elaborate on what you mean?SporadicAddick said:
Correct.Stig said:
In a way that Bakerloo, Elizabeth, Jubilee, Victoria and Waterloo & City aren't?SporadicAddick said:
They are based almost wholly on identity politics.Stig said:
Nothing. What's wrong with new names?LenGlover said:What's wrong with the traditional names?
some think that’s good.
Others think that is divisive.
so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.
and I think that somewhat proves the point.0 -
Great game of Politics Only Poster (POP) Bingo. Think I've got a full house!6
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You’re arguing against yourselfSporadicAddick said:
Only if you don’t understand the concept of identity politics…ShootersHillGuru said:
You obviously know the origins behind the names that Stig reminds us of ? If you do then your previous assertion is completely redundant.SporadicAddick said:
Correct.Stig said:
In a way that Bakerloo, Elizabeth, Jubilee, Victoria and Waterloo & City aren't?SporadicAddick said:
They are based almost wholly on identity politics.Stig said:
Nothing. What's wrong with new names?LenGlover said:What's wrong with the traditional names?
some think that’s good.
Others think that is divisive.
so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.
and I think that somewhat proves the point.2 -
The names of the tube lines referenced aren’t based on the concept of identity politics, a political concept which has its origins in the 1970’s i.e. after the tube lines referenced were named.PaddyP17 said:
Can you elaborate on what you mean?SporadicAddick said:
Correct.Stig said:
In a way that Bakerloo, Elizabeth, Jubilee, Victoria and Waterloo & City aren't?SporadicAddick said:
They are based almost wholly on identity politics.Stig said:
Nothing. What's wrong with new names?LenGlover said:What's wrong with the traditional names?
some think that’s good.
Others think that is divisive.
so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.
and I think that somewhat proves the point.
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Yes. The names aren't based on identity politics but historic events.SporadicAddick said:
The names of the tube lines referenced aren’t based on the concept of identity politics, a political concept which has its origins in the 1970’s i.e. after the tube lines referenced were named.PaddyP17 said:
Can you elaborate on what you mean?SporadicAddick said:
Correct.Stig said:
In a way that Bakerloo, Elizabeth, Jubilee, Victoria and Waterloo & City aren't?SporadicAddick said:
They are based almost wholly on identity politics.Stig said:
Nothing. What's wrong with new names?LenGlover said:What's wrong with the traditional names?
some think that’s good.
Others think that is divisive.
so not every will think they are good, and not everyone will think they are bad.
and I think that somewhat proves the point.2 -
But that isn't what happened in this case, it started with train lines, moved on to the cost, moved on to Khan (at which point the handwringers could have started shouting, but didn't), moved on to voting out Khan, moved on to people not being able to vote because of Tory gerrymandering. Natural progression...Off_it said:
Not quite the same is it, because on here there are different "conversations" on different topics going on simultaneously and you can choose which subjects you contribute to, then move onto another and then come back.Algarveaddick said:Off_it said:Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.
For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.
Good point that offy.
So, fifteen years ago, someone rebranded all those lines into "London Overground". As this current rebranding is apparently all Khan's fault, I can't help wondering whose fault it was in 2009? Who might have been mayor at the time, anyone have any idea?
Regarding how threads get de-railed, next time you are chatting with mates in the pub, make sure you stick to one topic at a time, and then agree to stop talking about that and start talking about something else. It's unnatural for conversations to evolve, after all...
What happens when a thread gets derailed, to put it in a pub context, is often the equivalent of you having a discussion at the bar about a particular subject and some random person walks over, stands in the middle of your group and shouts "Fish, fish! Look at me, I want to talk about fish! Fishy fishy fish fish!"3 -
Christ, it must be so fucking tiresome living in your world where you keep having to fight the good fight and put people straight on things on a daily basis.Algarveaddick said:
But that isn't what happened in this case, it started with train lines, moved on to the cost, moved on to Khan (at which point the handwringers could have started shouting, but didn't), moved on to voting out Khan, moved on to people not being able to vote because of Tory gerrymandering. Natural progression...Off_it said:
Not quite the same is it, because on here there are different "conversations" on different topics going on simultaneously and you can choose which subjects you contribute to, then move onto another and then come back.Algarveaddick said:Off_it said:Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.
For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.
Good point that offy.
So, fifteen years ago, someone rebranded all those lines into "London Overground". As this current rebranding is apparently all Khan's fault, I can't help wondering whose fault it was in 2009? Who might have been mayor at the time, anyone have any idea?
Regarding how threads get de-railed, next time you are chatting with mates in the pub, make sure you stick to one topic at a time, and then agree to stop talking about that and start talking about something else. It's unnatural for conversations to evolve, after all...
What happens when a thread gets derailed, to put it in a pub context, is often the equivalent of you having a discussion at the bar about a particular subject and some random person walks over, stands in the middle of your group and shouts "Fish, fish! Look at me, I want to talk about fish! Fishy fishy fish fish!"
Seriously mate, you need to have a word with yourself. Tory this, Khan that, handwringing, gerrymandering, ..... you sound like you're on a crusade and are one of the main culprits for making everything a political statement on here. It's boring. Its draining. Its tedious.14 -
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Clever post Dave, if I defend myself you are going to say "There you go again".Off_it said:
Christ, it must be so fucking tiresome living in your world where you keep having to fight the good fight and put people straight on things on a daily basis.Algarveaddick said:
But that isn't what happened in this case, it started with train lines, moved on to the cost, moved on to Khan (at which point the handwringers could have started shouting, but didn't), moved on to voting out Khan, moved on to people not being able to vote because of Tory gerrymandering. Natural progression...Off_it said:
Not quite the same is it, because on here there are different "conversations" on different topics going on simultaneously and you can choose which subjects you contribute to, then move onto another and then come back.Algarveaddick said:Off_it said:Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.
For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.
Good point that offy.
So, fifteen years ago, someone rebranded all those lines into "London Overground". As this current rebranding is apparently all Khan's fault, I can't help wondering whose fault it was in 2009? Who might have been mayor at the time, anyone have any idea?
Regarding how threads get de-railed, next time you are chatting with mates in the pub, make sure you stick to one topic at a time, and then agree to stop talking about that and start talking about something else. It's unnatural for conversations to evolve, after all...
What happens when a thread gets derailed, to put it in a pub context, is often the equivalent of you having a discussion at the bar about a particular subject and some random person walks over, stands in the middle of your group and shouts "Fish, fish! Look at me, I want to talk about fish! Fishy fishy fish fish!"
Seriously mate, you need to have a word with yourself. Tory this, Khan that, handwringing, gerrymandering, ..... you sound like you're on a crusade and are one of the main culprits for making everything a political statement on here. It's boring. Its draining. Its tedious.
Lincs politicised this thread, not me.
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I'm not trying to be clever. And I dont care who started it. I have no political dog in the fight and therefore am just saying it as I see it.Algarveaddick said:
Clever post Dave, if I defend myself you are going to say "There you go again".Off_it said:
Christ, it must be so fucking tiresome living in your world where you keep having to fight the good fight and put people straight on things on a daily basis.Algarveaddick said:
But that isn't what happened in this case, it started with train lines, moved on to the cost, moved on to Khan (at which point the handwringers could have started shouting, but didn't), moved on to voting out Khan, moved on to people not being able to vote because of Tory gerrymandering. Natural progression...Off_it said:
Not quite the same is it, because on here there are different "conversations" on different topics going on simultaneously and you can choose which subjects you contribute to, then move onto another and then come back.Algarveaddick said:Off_it said:Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.
For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.
Good point that offy.
So, fifteen years ago, someone rebranded all those lines into "London Overground". As this current rebranding is apparently all Khan's fault, I can't help wondering whose fault it was in 2009? Who might have been mayor at the time, anyone have any idea?
Regarding how threads get de-railed, next time you are chatting with mates in the pub, make sure you stick to one topic at a time, and then agree to stop talking about that and start talking about something else. It's unnatural for conversations to evolve, after all...
What happens when a thread gets derailed, to put it in a pub context, is often the equivalent of you having a discussion at the bar about a particular subject and some random person walks over, stands in the middle of your group and shouts "Fish, fish! Look at me, I want to talk about fish! Fishy fishy fish fish!"
Seriously mate, you need to have a word with yourself. Tory this, Khan that, handwringing, gerrymandering, ..... you sound like you're on a crusade and are one of the main culprits for making everything a political statement on here. It's boring. Its draining. Its tedious.
Lincs politicised this thread, not me.
I've "picked" on you on this occasion as we have met and therefore hopefully I wont be accused of internet bullying again. But you're not alone. I think the majority on here find the constant political point scoring on here tedious, although I do appreciate that this thread is naturally more political than others.
Genuinely no malice intended, Perry. All the best, comrade! ;-)2 -
Shall I cancel my Uber down to Makro then? Ffs5
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Cheers Dave, appreciate it. Your post did prompt me to have a look at myself. I looked back as far as November at my posts, not once have I been the one who turned a normal thread political or started a thread with the potential to be political, just for the record like...Off_it said:
I'm not trying to be clever. And I dont care who started it. I have no political dog in the fight and therefore am just saying it as I see it.Algarveaddick said:
Clever post Dave, if I defend myself you are going to say "There you go again".Off_it said:
Christ, it must be so fucking tiresome living in your world where you keep having to fight the good fight and put people straight on things on a daily basis.Algarveaddick said:
But that isn't what happened in this case, it started with train lines, moved on to the cost, moved on to Khan (at which point the handwringers could have started shouting, but didn't), moved on to voting out Khan, moved on to people not being able to vote because of Tory gerrymandering. Natural progression...Off_it said:
Not quite the same is it, because on here there are different "conversations" on different topics going on simultaneously and you can choose which subjects you contribute to, then move onto another and then come back.Algarveaddick said:Off_it said:Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.
For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.
Good point that offy.
So, fifteen years ago, someone rebranded all those lines into "London Overground". As this current rebranding is apparently all Khan's fault, I can't help wondering whose fault it was in 2009? Who might have been mayor at the time, anyone have any idea?
Regarding how threads get de-railed, next time you are chatting with mates in the pub, make sure you stick to one topic at a time, and then agree to stop talking about that and start talking about something else. It's unnatural for conversations to evolve, after all...
What happens when a thread gets derailed, to put it in a pub context, is often the equivalent of you having a discussion at the bar about a particular subject and some random person walks over, stands in the middle of your group and shouts "Fish, fish! Look at me, I want to talk about fish! Fishy fishy fish fish!"
Seriously mate, you need to have a word with yourself. Tory this, Khan that, handwringing, gerrymandering, ..... you sound like you're on a crusade and are one of the main culprits for making everything a political statement on here. It's boring. Its draining. Its tedious.
Lincs politicised this thread, not me.
I've "picked" on you on this occasion as we have met and therefore hopefully I wont be accused of internet bullying again. But you're not alone. I think the majority on here find the constant political point scoring on here tedious, although I do appreciate that this thread is naturally more political than others.
Genuinely no malice intended, Perry. All the best, comrade! ;-)
Power to the people.
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Classic stuff, it really is.7
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ValleyGary said:Classic stuff, it really is.
If only our squad had so many assertive left and right wingers as this forum we'd fly up the leagues like a Tory politician up a brass or a Labour politician up a virtue signal flagpole.
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Green politician up a Quorn treeRodneyCharltonTrotta said:ValleyGary said:Classic stuff, it really is.
If only our squad had so many assertive left right wingers as this forum we'd fly up the leagues like a Tory politician up a brass or a Labour politician up a virtue signal flagpole.5 -
Ignoring the political posts on photos only no discussion of courseAlgarveaddick said:
Cheers Dave, appreciate it. Your post did prompt me to have a look at myself. I looked back as far as November at my posts, not once have I been the one who turned a normal thread political or started a thread with the potential to be political, just for the record like...Off_it said:
I'm not trying to be clever. And I dont care who started it. I have no political dog in the fight and therefore am just saying it as I see it.Algarveaddick said:
Clever post Dave, if I defend myself you are going to say "There you go again".Off_it said:
Christ, it must be so fucking tiresome living in your world where you keep having to fight the good fight and put people straight on things on a daily basis.Algarveaddick said:
But that isn't what happened in this case, it started with train lines, moved on to the cost, moved on to Khan (at which point the handwringers could have started shouting, but didn't), moved on to voting out Khan, moved on to people not being able to vote because of Tory gerrymandering. Natural progression...Off_it said:
Not quite the same is it, because on here there are different "conversations" on different topics going on simultaneously and you can choose which subjects you contribute to, then move onto another and then come back.Algarveaddick said:Off_it said:Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.
For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.
Good point that offy.
So, fifteen years ago, someone rebranded all those lines into "London Overground". As this current rebranding is apparently all Khan's fault, I can't help wondering whose fault it was in 2009? Who might have been mayor at the time, anyone have any idea?
Regarding how threads get de-railed, next time you are chatting with mates in the pub, make sure you stick to one topic at a time, and then agree to stop talking about that and start talking about something else. It's unnatural for conversations to evolve, after all...
What happens when a thread gets derailed, to put it in a pub context, is often the equivalent of you having a discussion at the bar about a particular subject and some random person walks over, stands in the middle of your group and shouts "Fish, fish! Look at me, I want to talk about fish! Fishy fishy fish fish!"
Seriously mate, you need to have a word with yourself. Tory this, Khan that, handwringing, gerrymandering, ..... you sound like you're on a crusade and are one of the main culprits for making everything a political statement on here. It's boring. Its draining. Its tedious.
Lincs politicised this thread, not me.
I've "picked" on you on this occasion as we have met and therefore hopefully I wont be accused of internet bullying again. But you're not alone. I think the majority on here find the constant political point scoring on here tedious, although I do appreciate that this thread is naturally more political than others.
Genuinely no malice intended, Perry. All the best, comrade! ;-)
Power to the people. 
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True, I only post the same number as others do now though. When they stop, so will I.Covered End said:
Ignoring the political posts on photos only no discussion of courseAlgarveaddick said:
Cheers Dave, appreciate it. Your post did prompt me to have a look at myself. I looked back as far as November at my posts, not once have I been the one who turned a normal thread political or started a thread with the potential to be political, just for the record like...Off_it said:
I'm not trying to be clever. And I dont care who started it. I have no political dog in the fight and therefore am just saying it as I see it.Algarveaddick said:
Clever post Dave, if I defend myself you are going to say "There you go again".Off_it said:
Christ, it must be so fucking tiresome living in your world where you keep having to fight the good fight and put people straight on things on a daily basis.Algarveaddick said:
But that isn't what happened in this case, it started with train lines, moved on to the cost, moved on to Khan (at which point the handwringers could have started shouting, but didn't), moved on to voting out Khan, moved on to people not being able to vote because of Tory gerrymandering. Natural progression...Off_it said:
Not quite the same is it, because on here there are different "conversations" on different topics going on simultaneously and you can choose which subjects you contribute to, then move onto another and then come back.Algarveaddick said:Off_it said:Thing is, these lines arent new and most of them had pretty good names already before they all got lumped together under the "Overground" heading.
For example, the North London Line, the East London Line or the Lea Valley Line all sound alright to me. At least the name gives you a good idea of where they are.
Good point that offy.
So, fifteen years ago, someone rebranded all those lines into "London Overground". As this current rebranding is apparently all Khan's fault, I can't help wondering whose fault it was in 2009? Who might have been mayor at the time, anyone have any idea?
Regarding how threads get de-railed, next time you are chatting with mates in the pub, make sure you stick to one topic at a time, and then agree to stop talking about that and start talking about something else. It's unnatural for conversations to evolve, after all...
What happens when a thread gets derailed, to put it in a pub context, is often the equivalent of you having a discussion at the bar about a particular subject and some random person walks over, stands in the middle of your group and shouts "Fish, fish! Look at me, I want to talk about fish! Fishy fishy fish fish!"
Seriously mate, you need to have a word with yourself. Tory this, Khan that, handwringing, gerrymandering, ..... you sound like you're on a crusade and are one of the main culprits for making everything a political statement on here. It's boring. Its draining. Its tedious.
Lincs politicised this thread, not me.
I've "picked" on you on this occasion as we have met and therefore hopefully I wont be accused of internet bullying again. But you're not alone. I think the majority on here find the constant political point scoring on here tedious, although I do appreciate that this thread is naturally more political than others.
Genuinely no malice intended, Perry. All the best, comrade! ;-)
Power to the people. 0
