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London Overground - new line names revealed.

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  • Can we please rename this thread

    London Overground - CL anger over new line names revealed.

    No charge.
  • edited February 15
    Thank fuck for that, as far as I am concerned the overground = mainline trains.  Having to clarify that I am asking where the overground trains go from, not the overground trains which are an extension of the underground but the overground that used to be called the overground before they decided that part of the tube network was going to be called the overground is a pain in the arse.
  • edited February 15
    Can we please rename this thread

    London Overground - CL anger over new line names revealed.

    No charge.
    I prefer

    Woke Train Rage

  • There are more stations on the Underground network above ground than under ground. 
  • Amazing that someone in power can find money just before an election
  • Chizz said:
    I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge. 
    That was another waste of money which had equal outrage I believe?
  • cafc999 said:
    Chizz said:
    I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge. 
    That was another waste of money which had equal outrage I believe?
    Only 3 pages

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/77742/thames-garden-bridge
  • The practical thing though is whether people will adopt the names into every day use when it’s managed to date to be known as the ‘overground’. 

    Very hard and / or a long time before it permeates into common parlance. 

    Just think about Marathon v Snickers as an example of what I mean. 

    Clearly the names are chosen to be deliberately ‘PC’ and which will delight / offend in equal amount I imagine. 

    Feels to me that they will be hard to adopt for quite some while and hence a bit of ‘so what’ initiative. 




  • Do I just see the solving of a problem that doesn’t exist?
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  • edited February 15
    I use the highbury and islington( Forest Hill) branch of the London overground on my commute home i will always refer it to as the orange line.No new name or colour is going to improve it.I take it thats why the fares are going up to pay for this tripe.
  • cafc999 said:
    Chizz said:
    I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge. 
    That was another waste of money which had equal outrage I believe?
    Only 3 pages

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/77742/thames-garden-bridge
    So we had outrage then
  • I use the highbury and islington( Forest Hill) branch of the London overground on my commute home i will always refer it to as the orange line.No new name or colour is going to improve it.I take it thats why the fares are going up to pay for this tripe.
    Yes, you're right. 

    Except it probably won't help to call it the orange line, when the maps and signs will clearly be red. 

    And last month, it was announced there will be a fare freeze. 
  • Well any way the overground lines not running next week for a couple days due to strike action. 
    That is a good start.
  • msomerton said:
    Well any way the overground lines not running next week for a couple days due to strike action. 
    That is a good start.
    Planned strikes next week by London Overground workers have been called off after a pay offer was improved, the RMT union has announced. 

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68304840
  • colthe3rd said:
    Jac_52 said:
    Plenty of illiterate people voted for Brexit despite the billions and billions of damage it has inflicted on the UK economy and was always predicted to inflict. Over £100bn and counting so far (30bn for London alone) which massively reduces government revenue, which could have paid for all your thousands of doctors and teachers.

    6.3m as a one off cost to TfL is nothing worth moaning about.
    Quite, TFL have a budget of £9bn, so this is about 0.07%. Some people need a bit of perspective but then I feel they will look for any reason to have a moan about the mayor even when they don't live in London. Bizarre. 


    Regardless of budget, is £6m value to come up with line names. 

    How did it cost £6m. Hire a company, pay them £2k for a couple of days work, job done
  • Chizz said:
    I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge. 
    Two wrongs don't make a right.

    how does if cost £1m to name a tube line. How?
  • £6m doesn’t actually sound like much to me… think about the vast number of signs on stations, trains, tubes, paraphernalia etc across London, it’s almost incomprehensible. The exercise involved in co ordinating and implementing all of that must be crazy, £6m these days can be eaten up in a heartbeat 

    names seem alright to me, the direction thing is a useful way to come up with a name but is essentially meaningless for directional purposes on the whole, and ultimately… people just get used to whatever the name is, Elizabeth, jubilee… if I’m travelling from King’s Cross to Oxford circus then the fact it’s called the Victoria line isn’t exactly an instant route planner for you, even more so from Kennington to Colliers Wood… the names don’t matter…
  • And there was me thinking TFL was skint 
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  • They should have just named it the colours.

    “You need to take the Windrush Line”

    ”What one’s that…?”

    ”The red one”

    Easier innit.
  • They should have just named it the colours.

    “You need to take the Windrush Line”

    ”What one’s that…?”

    ”The red one”

    Easier innit.
    But isn't the Central Line red?
  • cafc999 said:
    They should have just named it the colours.

    “You need to take the Windrush Line”

    ”What one’s that…?”

    ”The red one”

    Easier innit.
    But isn't the Central Line red?
    That’s underground 
  • I'm confused  ?  

    They say that these new names are for the "overground"....I take it they mean the overground part of the underground...yes ?

    I'm also assuming that there are no breaks in the line/service and the lines run continuously into the "underground" as before....yes ?

    If so....then why the need for change ? I know..... because of inclusivity, diversity and to be shown to be doing something "modern" and "out there". In reality its a total waste of £6m. The lines aren't changing and ultimately will just confuse more people that are "affected" by Windrush etc .


    I hope you genuinely haven't heard of the London Overground...
    To me there are 2 types of trains that run in & out of London. The Underground (or Tube) and then British Rail (or whatever the fancy names/franchises are now called).

    The "overground" is just part of The Tube network. As the name says, part of it runs "overground" and not "underground"....but its all part of the same Tube network. Running on an electric current & not overhead rails. 

    This is why all this renaming is daft. Will Sadiq Khan be renaming the "underground" part of the system next ? Get on the Poll Tax Rioters stretch from Victoria to Liverpool Street in honour of the "battle" in 1989.

  • se9addick said:
    I'm confused  ?  

    They say that these new names are for the "overground"....I take it they mean the overground part of the underground...yes ?

    I'm also assuming that there are no breaks in the line/service and the lines run continuously into the "underground" as before....yes ?

    If so....then why the need for change ? I know..... because of inclusivity, diversity and to be shown to be doing something "modern" and "out there". In reality it’s a total waste of £6m. The lines aren't changing and ultimately will just confuse more people that are "affected" by Windrush etc .


    Overground is a totally different service to Underground.  
    Oh....makes me sound daft then.

    Never knew that. 

    Thats me told
  • easy sell for the media. 

    i generally thin khan is a waste of space but am i triggered over the naming of a tube line not really. 

    all politicians are spineless cnuts in my opinion that sqaunder money on a daily basis 

    is london a shit hole yes 

    is there an out of control knife problem and general violence yes 


    is it all khans fault probably not 

    Both of these statements are absolute bollocks. 

    London is the greatest city in the world and remarkably safe given its size. 
  • Chizz said:
    I hope everyone who is hurt and upset at the £6.3m rebranding of six, working train lines, carrying more than 600k passengers a day is proportionately apoplectic with rage at the £43m spaffed on the non-existent Garden Bridge. 
    Two wrongs don't make a right.

    how does if cost £1m to name a tube line. How?
    Is it not the cost of changing signage in the main?
    I took it as the cost to decide on the names, my bad
  • cafc999 said:
    They should have just named it the colours.

    “You need to take the Windrush Line”

    ”What one’s that…?”

    ”The red one”

    Easier innit.
    But isn't the Central Line red?
    That’s underground 
    Same map
  • edited February 15
    Here you go. 41 days as of today to get your name on the ballot if I'm following it right.
    There is still time.

    https://www.londonelects.org.uk/statutory-notices-and-elections-timetable
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