I think the treatment of Geoge Dobson has had an effect on the team. Might sound a bit of a conspiracy theory comment, but how would you feel when the club captain and our best player over the last few seasons is being treated in this way. If the rumours are true that George has been told to train with the U23's I am absolutely disgusted , if he is pushed out of the club during a relegation battle then I have lost all faith in the recruitment and management team. My comments do not include NJ at the moment as he has only been in place for a few days. But I would like NJ to review Georges contribution to the team and ask those above him to reconsider the decision
Lincoln game is even bigger now, if they don’t show fight the atmosphere will be toxic quickly and the 3 games after are guaranteed to create 0 points
Atmosphere will be toxic quickly if no fight.
Doubt it we have heard that threat before this season , and it hasn’t happened.
The atmosphere mustn’t get toxic as Brownie and Curbs stressed even though the temptation is there to let them have it if we are struggling.They called for the fans to keep encouraging them and be the twelfth man.
I would say that we're the classic "too good to go down" side that gets relegated, except that we aren't even "too good" now.
At least before we looked dangerous going forward, and it was just defensive cockups costing us. Now we look completely devoid of flair and potency as well.
Not going to go over the 90 minutes because we were poor. One shot on target. Conceded from two set pieces. Now well and truly in a relegation battle and we don’t look up for it.
Reading look to be pulling away from trouble and we look to be falling through a trap door.
We’re punished for every mistake we make and I don’t see how it gets any better. Nathan Jones’ appointment provided a lot of hope but we’re poor in nearly old parts of the pitch and that doesn’t look like changing.
Andy Scott and company have made their bed and now we all have to lie in it.
Reading 2 Charlton 0 Over to you.
But we're not being 'punished for every mistake' (just ask Jordan Rhodes). We make so many that eventually a ball will fall kindly, one of theirs will catch one well, etc etc.
Exactly. We constantly (2-3 times today?) play the ball blindly across the 18yd line, or if that doesn’t work we just pass directly to the oppos strikers. Eventually even shit sides will score
Well, that's our new manager bounce over with then. Other teams get a string of three or four wins. We get a first half in which we don't concede.
Trying very hard to think of positives, here goes: Istead looked better in goal than Lyndhurst does. Jones won a lot of headers, I was worried after recent performances that he'd only got picked as a namesake/countryman, in fact, in my head I could hear Windsor Davis going, 'lovely boy'. As it turns out though he was worthy of his place. There was a lot of energy early on and we were winning the 50/50 balls; sadly it didn't last long. Kanu showed some much needed pace when he came on. Camara's cameo was very good. Really hoping that he can gain fitness quickly and play some full matches, we desperately need his creativity.
On the downside there was the typical kamikaze defending we've come to expect and a complete dearth of creativity in the final third. Oh, how we need someone who can put a decent cross in. We made real heavy weather of trying to break through their lines and on the only couple of occasions me managed it, we dithered rather than shooting. Oh, go on then I'll add one more positive: Lots of new grounds next season for the hoppers to enjoy.
Just got back, and PWR. Sat in the Reading end with three Reading friends.
Their view was that there wasn’t much in it (not sure about that) but that they’ve now won two matches in a row, with all three goals coming from long throws.
I’d mentioned to them before the game that I haven’t seen a proper long throw from our team since Naby Sarr hurled one in out of the blue about five years ago. It’s such a simple but effective weapon and it’s mental that none of our players have that in their locker. (Alfie’s don’t count).
A few points: We still (of course) look like a team lacking confidence. Strikers needing an extra touch before shooting, or like Alfie in the second half, passing out wide rather than shooting. Our final ball was often over hit. Watson, Coventry and others at fault here.
Tenai Watson back to looking lightweight, and almost disinterested. Pray to god that Ramsey is an improvement.
Tayo Edun similarly suspect. Pray to god that Small is an improvement. Recent history would suggest otherwise. Ladapo is still way off the pace - he’s offering very little. Give Kanu a chance Nath.
Lloyd Jones bust a gut today and won lots of headers. I hate to say it, but Innis was our best defence against the long throw, and his aerial dominance hasn’t been replaced, not even by Jones.
One real ray of light was Camara who looked a level above, which was impressive for someone who hadn’t played for such a long time. Another was Isted who had a very good game.
Not sure why TT was started on the right. He looked better when back on the left.
What’s up with Gillesphey?
The formation isn’t working. Hopefully Jones will change that. We massively miss CBT. Almost all of us knew we would.
Decent stadium. If Reading can’t rid themselves of their owner they’re going to struggle long term.
We might be going down. If Aneke and Camara can get fit and stay fit, then perhaps we have a chance.
Perhaps Nathan was saying the other day without actually saying it that IF we went down then the rebuild starts there the way he did with Luton.... His players not other peoples.
Let's be honest we've seen this coming for years and it's been miserable.
Okay getting relegated isn't exactly what we all want but if it means we keep Jones, clear out the rubbish, bring in some players who have a backbone, keep the money men and get rid of the SMT then I'd be okay with it.
The club needs a reset and a clean slate.
Even if by a miracle of biblical proportions we stay up then we still need to cull and let Nathan run it...we can't keep papering over the cracks.
There are some major holes in this thinking and scenario planning.
Going down to a division one level above what I still call the GM Vauxhall Conference? Whilst trying to maintain an infrastructure that includes a nigh on 30k stadium, training ground that at least belongs in the Championship, salaries to support that are in many cases well above league one average (Jones will not have been cheap either!).
The huge drop in revenue will not have been factored in to the current spending.
1) Keep Jones? Thats gonna be a massive chunk out the budget and that’s if he would even want to manage in league 2. The guy was in the prem most recently!
2) And how do we foresee clearing out the rubbish? The value of all the players will be at an all time low. We won’t get the money back we paid for people, and in what would be an ever more vital battle to stay the right side of FFP - we won’t get the monies for the home grown players (straight to profit) than we would have got in league one.
3) Keep the money men? They didn’t sign up for league two football.
4) More people to pay off by getting rid of the SMT. And in some cases they are shareholders. So how is that going to work exactly?
I'm really not sure a medical should be the main focus when agreeing to sign these players. We need some sort of capability test where we put them on the pitch and watch if they can control,pass ,shoot, head.....run!
I've seen enough of these phoneys charading as footballers.
I think Nathan Jones and Paul Hart will be kicking a lot of arse in training tomorrow and Edun and T Watson ought to not be able to sit down after they are finished with. Watson is just League 2 level and I feel a bit sorry for what Scott has put him through, while Edun is playing below his capabilities and needs to wake the fuck up. Both are hampering any attacking threat from the sides and Nathan will have absolutely seen that. Ramsay and Small will be in that side very soon I reckon.
Thought Coventry battled pretty well as did Gillesphy, while Thomas can be good but equally unnerves me as he always has a mistake in him over 90 minutes. Ladapo is at this minute one of the most disappointing signings I have seen of late based on my expectation levels when he arrived. The form also appears to be knocking May’s confidence which we need like a hole in the head.
Bakinson - I have no idea what he is expected to do, as he adds so little in game.
Camara looked excellent in his cameo and Kanu busy.
I think Nathan Jones will be changing things up for Tuesday.
The owners will have better things to do with their lives than pour through fan feelings but even from their distant viewpoint I would be surprised if they are not starting to scrutinise Andy Scott’s work very closely. All down to Nathan now and I hope we all keep behind him.
The worrying thing is we had a huge away following and new manager and yet the players are still unable to raise their game. I’m resigned to the fact the majority of these players lack any spirit or ability. What a mess.
Who looks at this team and think that formation suits us? Honesty when Holden was trying it in pre season with CBT as wing back alarm bells were ringing but now it's just effing stupid. Get 4 at the back with a couple of DMs in front of them and make us hard to break down please. Kanu needs to start. What he lacks in experience he makes up for endeavour, he seems a great kid. Bin those bloody wing backs and get and get someone in with a point to prove those two have had their turn.
Big shout out to a large contingent of Charlton fans today who were so ridiculously badly behaved. You know who you are, you know what you were doing, stop being absolute idiots and just support the team and watch the bloody game. Morons.
I am sure Jones leant a lot today but be he should have already have learnt some things from the other coaches and videos, he should have learnt that Ladapo is not much good and our two wingbacks do not fulfil their function - simple stuff. Jones is no the saviour that most of you proclaim.
I'll judge him when he has a full transfer window. I won't judge him having to work with these clowns
Big shout out to a large contingent of Charlton fans today who were so ridiculously badly behaved. You know who you are, you know what you were doing, stop being absolute idiots and just support the team and watch the bloody game. Morons.
Big shout out to a large contingent of Charlton fans today who were so ridiculously badly behaved. You know who you are, you know what you were doing, stop being absolute idiots and just support the team and watch the bloody game. Morons.
come on, what did they do?
Women and kids had to run to safety because some of our morons and morons from Reading started throwing stuff. I nearly got hit by a coin, my son got hit by a vape, Charlton 'fans' causing the large majority of the issues made worse admittedly by poor stadium management. It wasn't just kids either it was fully grown men just acting like they've never had a beer before.
one bloke, in his rush to join the action, tripped on the steps and knocked a kid flying who had to be take out with blood on her face.
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Admittedly, it would mean at least someone scores.
This makes painful viewing (form last 10 games)
At least before we looked dangerous going forward, and it was just defensive cockups costing us. Now we look completely devoid of flair and potency as well.
Trying very hard to think of positives, here goes: Istead looked better in goal than Lyndhurst does. Jones won a lot of headers, I was worried after recent performances that he'd only got picked as a namesake/countryman, in fact, in my head I could hear Windsor Davis going, 'lovely boy'. As it turns out though he was worthy of his place. There was a lot of energy early on and we were winning the 50/50 balls; sadly it didn't last long. Kanu showed some much needed pace when he came on. Camara's cameo was very good. Really hoping that he can gain fitness quickly and play some full matches, we desperately need his creativity.
On the downside there was the typical kamikaze defending we've come to expect and a complete dearth of creativity in the final third. Oh, how we need someone who can put a decent cross in. We made real heavy weather of trying to break through their lines and on the only couple of occasions me managed it, we dithered rather than shooting. Oh, go on then I'll add one more positive: Lots of new grounds next season for the hoppers to enjoy.
Sat in the Reading end with three Reading friends.
A few points:
We still (of course) look like a team lacking confidence. Strikers needing an extra touch before shooting, or like Alfie in the second half, passing out wide rather than shooting.
Our final ball was often over hit. Watson, Coventry and others at fault here.
Ladapo is still way off the pace - he’s offering very little. Give Kanu a chance Nath.
Another was Isted who had a very good game.
The formation isn’t working. Hopefully Jones will change that.
We massively miss CBT. Almost all of us knew we would.
Going down to a division one level above what I still call the GM Vauxhall Conference? Whilst trying to maintain an infrastructure that includes a nigh on 30k stadium, training ground that at least belongs in the Championship, salaries to support that are in many cases well above league one average (Jones will not have been cheap either!).
The huge drop in revenue will not have been factored in to the current spending.
2) And how do we foresee clearing out the rubbish? The value of all the players will be at an all time low. We won’t get the money back we paid for people, and in what would be an ever more vital battle to stay the right side of FFP - we won’t get the monies for the home grown players (straight to profit) than we would have got in league one.
3) Keep the money men? They didn’t sign up for league two football.
4) More people to pay off by getting rid of the SMT. And in some cases they are shareholders. So how is that going to work exactly?
Not if Charlton players threw them.
We need some sort of capability test where we put them on the pitch and watch if they can control,pass ,shoot, head.....run!
I've seen enough of these phoneys charading as footballers.
The owners will have better things to do with their lives than pour through fan feelings but even from their distant viewpoint I would be surprised if they are not starting to scrutinise Andy Scott’s work very closely. All down to Nathan now and I hope we all keep behind him.
I won't judge him having to work with these clowns
one bloke, in his rush to join the action, tripped on the steps and knocked a kid flying who had to be take out with blood on her face.