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England 69-1 off 150
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Following a rain disruption, England won by 36 runs (DLS). The skipper, Ben McKinney once again got runs (48 off 67) but top scorer was Noah Thain with an undefeated 63 off 82. An excellent win that leaves us top of the group.1
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Well this has become a complete and utter joke. Shoaib is now having to return home. Despite applying for his visa on 11 December – and every other application for England’s touring party having been approved in good time – Bashir has returned home and faces further paperwork. He was born in Surrey and holds a British Passport. It's not difficult to work out why India have refused to grant him a Visa - they did exactly the same thing initially to Usman Khawaja though there is a subtle difference in Khawaja's case - he was born in Pakistan - but that shouldn't have been an issue either.Addick Addict said:As of yesterday, it seems that the ECB have failed to sort out in time the visa for one of our players, Shoaib Bashir who was left behind in Abu Dhabi when the rest of the squad flew out. Shoaib is of Pakistani heritage but was born in Surrey and is a British passport holder. However, this is not the first time players with Pakistani backgrounds have had visa delays from the Indian government. Usman Khawaja suffered a similar delay before Australia’s tour to India last year and the Pakistan World Cup squad faced visa delays in November before being granted entry into India.
By all accounts it also appears that Ben Stokes is a doubt for Thursday as he hasn't fully recovered from his knee surgery. A decision regarding his participation will be made as late as possible. What this does seem to confirm though is that he won't be fit enough to bowl - so, in theory, his participation might mean that Foakes won't play after all as I don't see how we create the right balance with just four frontline bowlers, plus Root, especially in India. We have to play two spinners but, in that heat, can we afford to perm, for example, any two from an ageing Anderson, a fragile Robinson (on at least three occasions he's not be able to bowl due to back spasms) and a Wood who at his best can only be utilised in very short spells? Playing an extra bowler would mean someone like Rehan Ahmed batting at 7 followed by four non batsmen or us playing Lawrence as a "bits and pieces" fill in.
In the old days, teams would refuse to play if a player was refused entry in these circumstances. Suspect there is too much money at stake for this to happen.3 -
What a cool and totally not nationalistic government India has2
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Good news. Foakes confirmed as taking the gloves.5
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The Indian Visa agency is run by a bunch of absolute tossers of the first order……a scandalous set up, try getting a thing as simple as a tourist visa, you’ll need the fucking holiday just to get over the procedure! 🤨Addick Addict said:
Well this has become a complete and utter joke. Shoaib is now having to return home. Despite applying for his visa on 11 December – and every other application for England’s touring party having been approved in good time – Bashir has returned home and faces further paperwork. He was born in Surrey and holds a British Passport. It's not difficult to work out why India have refused to grant him a Visa - they did exactly the same thing initially to Usman Khawaja though there is a subtle difference in Khawaja's case - he was born in Pakistan - but that shouldn't have been an issue either.Addick Addict said:As of yesterday, it seems that the ECB have failed to sort out in time the visa for one of our players, Shoaib Bashir who was left behind in Abu Dhabi when the rest of the squad flew out. Shoaib is of Pakistani heritage but was born in Surrey and is a British passport holder. However, this is not the first time players with Pakistani backgrounds have had visa delays from the Indian government. Usman Khawaja suffered a similar delay before Australia’s tour to India last year and the Pakistan World Cup squad faced visa delays in November before being granted entry into India.
By all accounts it also appears that Ben Stokes is a doubt for Thursday as he hasn't fully recovered from his knee surgery. A decision regarding his participation will be made as late as possible. What this does seem to confirm though is that he won't be fit enough to bowl - so, in theory, his participation might mean that Foakes won't play after all as I don't see how we create the right balance with just four frontline bowlers, plus Root, especially in India. We have to play two spinners but, in that heat, can we afford to perm, for example, any two from an ageing Anderson, a fragile Robinson (on at least three occasions he's not be able to bowl due to back spasms) and a Wood who at his best can only be utilised in very short spells? Playing an extra bowler would mean someone like Rehan Ahmed batting at 7 followed by four non batsmen or us playing Lawrence as a "bits and pieces" fill in.
In the old days, teams would refuse to play if a player was refused entry in these circumstances. Suspect there is too much money at stake for this to happen.0 -
As for the cricket……I think we are in for a thrashing.
Hope I’m wrong but I can see it coming. 🫤0 -
Completely unacceptable behaviour by the Indian authorities. I really hope there are reprisals for this, though have zero expectation of it happening.0
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Having been to India (I love the place)
Their visa system is an absolute nightmare.3 -
Well Stokes is fit to play but whether he can bowl remains to be seen. If he can't then our only seam option is someone who can probably only bowl in 4/5 over spells.
1. Zak Crawley
2. Ben Duckett
3. Ollie Pope
4. Joe Root
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Ben Stokes (C)
7. Ben Foakes
8. Rehan Ahmed
9. Tom Hartley
10. Mark Wood
11. Jack Leach
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Packing the batting I see. But it'll not make a difference when they all end up lbw to the one that doesn't spin0
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The form is like an 8 hour essay. Listing every country you've ever been to was my favourite bitblackpool72 said:Having been to India (I love the place)
Their visa system is an absolute nightmare.
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England Lions 152 all out against India A0
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Then when you arrive at an Indian Airport you have to go through half a dozen queues to get out.Pelling1993 said:
The form is like an 8 hour essay. Listing every country you've ever been to was my favourite bitblackpool72 said:Having been to India (I love the place)
Their visa system is an absolute nightmare.
Absolutely bonkers.
But I still intend to go back.1 -
I didn't think it was that bad, certainly no different from African counties I've visited.Pelling1993 said:
The form is like an 8 hour essay. Listing every country you've ever been to was my favourite bitblackpool72 said:Having been to India (I love the place)
Their visa system is an absolute nightmare.0 -
Stokes not bowling and with Brook out and 4 keepers in the side the only part timer is Root another spinner. Does Crawley bowl anything? Odds on us asking Root to bowl seam up when we get in a pickle?Addick Addict said:Well Stokes is fit to play but whether he can bowl remains to be seen. If he can't then our only seam option is someone who can probably only bowl in 4/5 over spells.
1. Zak Crawley
2. Ben Duckett
3. Ollie Pope
4. Joe Root
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Ben Stokes (C)
7. Ben Foakes
8. Rehan Ahmed
9. Tom Hartley
10. Mark Wood
11. Jack Leach0 -
At least over rates shouldn't be a problem0
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Crawley bowls offies I believe which is a complete waste of his physique! I'm hearing on the grapevine that India have decided to switch to the uncut strip and opted to play five seamers.cantersaddick said:
Stokes not bowling and with Brook out and 4 keepers in the side the only part timer is Root another spinner. Does Crawley bowl anything? Odds on us asking Root to bowl seam up when we get in a pickle?Addick Addict said:Well Stokes is fit to play but whether he can bowl remains to be seen. If he can't then our only seam option is someone who can probably only bowl in 4/5 over spells.
1. Zak Crawley
2. Ben Duckett
3. Ollie Pope
4. Joe Root
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Ben Stokes (C)
7. Ben Foakes
8. Rehan Ahmed
9. Tom Hartley
10. Mark Wood
11. Jack Leach0 -
Maybe Jonny is keeping wicket, and Ben Foakes is playing as a seam bowler...0
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Classic India. They're such c***s lolAddick Addict said:
Crawley bowls offies I believe which is a complete waste of his physique! I'm hearing on the grapevine that India have decided to switch to the uncut strip and opted to play five seamers.cantersaddick said:
Stokes not bowling and with Brook out and 4 keepers in the side the only part timer is Root another spinner. Does Crawley bowl anything? Odds on us asking Root to bowl seam up when we get in a pickle?Addick Addict said:Well Stokes is fit to play but whether he can bowl remains to be seen. If he can't then our only seam option is someone who can probably only bowl in 4/5 over spells.
1. Zak Crawley
2. Ben Duckett
3. Ollie Pope
4. Joe Root
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Ben Stokes (C)
7. Ben Foakes
8. Rehan Ahmed
9. Tom Hartley
10. Mark Wood
11. Jack Leach3 -
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(although, there's nothing to stop England changing their team right?)1
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I'm hoping they've been drilling into him the Axar Patel saucers. Would be a great watch.Addick Addict said:
Crawley bowls offies I believe which is a complete waste of his physique! I'm hearing on the grapevine that India have decided to switch to the uncut strip and opted to play five seamers.cantersaddick said:
Stokes not bowling and with Brook out and 4 keepers in the side the only part timer is Root another spinner. Does Crawley bowl anything? Odds on us asking Root to bowl seam up when we get in a pickle?Addick Addict said:Well Stokes is fit to play but whether he can bowl remains to be seen. If he can't then our only seam option is someone who can probably only bowl in 4/5 over spells.
1. Zak Crawley
2. Ben Duckett
3. Ollie Pope
4. Joe Root
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Ben Stokes (C)
7. Ben Foakes
8. Rehan Ahmed
9. Tom Hartley
10. Mark Wood
11. Jack Leach1 -
Hope this isn't a sign of things to come for the First XI
At stumps on first day
England Lions 152 all out off 52.4
India A 150-0 off 32.0
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So we're two ahead after day one. That's a victory, of sorts.Addick Addict said:Hope this isn't a sign of things to come for the First XI
At stumps on first day
England Lions 152 all out off 52.4
India A 150-0 off 32.0
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Not even up to your usual 'standard' tbhChizz said:
So we're two ahead after day one. That's a victory, of sorts.Addick Addict said:Hope this isn't a sign of things to come for the First XI
At stumps on first day
England Lions 152 all out off 52.4
India A 150-0 off 32.0
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So what do we think?
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Stokes can't be fit to bowl surely.Addick Addict said:Well Stokes is fit to play but whether he can bowl remains to be seen. If he can't then our only seam option is someone who can probably only bowl in 4/5 over spells.
1. Zak Crawley
2. Ben Duckett
3. Ollie Pope
4. Joe Root
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Ben Stokes (C)
7. Ben Foakes
8. Rehan Ahmed
9. Tom Hartley
10. Mark Wood
11. Jack Leach
What's the problem with our other seam options then?0 -
Most reports saying Stokes won’t be bowling. Will be very interesting if India do change to an unexpected strip.0
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Who's up at 4am tomorrow then ? I pay £20pm for TNT Sports so I like to get my money's worth but I think I might be struggling with this one.
So maybe up for 7ish for the afternoon and evening sessions.1 -
I don't think that there is a problem. We just seem fixated on the fact that it will be a waste of having more than one, so much so that I could see us opening with two spinners and only Wood's express pace in short bursts as and when. Now whether having two rookie spinners instead of one plus another experienced seamer remains to be seen. India, on the other hand, can afford to have Ashwin and Jadeja, with their 500 plus wickets between them at 21 apiece since 2012, plus two front line seamers.mid_life_crisis said:
Stokes can't be fit to bowl surely.Addick Addict said:Well Stokes is fit to play but whether he can bowl remains to be seen. If he can't then our only seam option is someone who can probably only bowl in 4/5 over spells.
1. Zak Crawley
2. Ben Duckett
3. Ollie Pope
4. Joe Root
5. Jonny Bairstow
6. Ben Stokes (C)
7. Ben Foakes
8. Rehan Ahmed
9. Tom Hartley
10. Mark Wood
11. Jack Leach
What's the problem with our other seam options then?0
