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  • Bethell off the mark with a single and then Duckett dropped in the slips

    29-1 (10) with Duckett on 28 (33) and the other end compiling just 1 (27) 
  • To be fair to Bethell, I would like to think that he's playing inside the line of most of these that are close to the bat. The pressure will build but the longer he's in the more chance he has of doing something meaningful and delaying Root's arrival at the crease. 
  • To be fair to Bethell, I would like to think that he's playing inside the line of most of these that are close to the bat. The pressure will build but the longer he's in the more chance he has of doing something meaningful and delaying Root's arrival at the crease. 
    You'd expect a bowling change soon too which might provide a chance to score a bit
  • Smith's Tache and Mullet won't dispel the jokes about New Zealand being 20 years behind the rest of the world  ;)
  • edited November 28
    fenaddick said:
    To be fair to Bethell, I would like to think that he's playing inside the line of most of these that are close to the bat. The pressure will build but the longer he's in the more chance he has of doing something meaningful and delaying Root's arrival at the crease. 
    You'd expect a bowling change soon too which might provide a chance to score a bit
    As it just has with two lovely boundaries off Smith. What he has shown is that he has a good temperament and certainly hasn't looked like a rabbit in headlights in what are very difficult conditions. His and Duckett's job now is to get us to lunch just one down.
  • Smith's Tache and Mullet won't dispel the jokes about New Zealand being 20 years behind the rest of the world  ;)
    Clearly you’re behind the times, us tache sporting men are back on trend!
  • fenaddick said:
    To be fair to Bethell, I would like to think that he's playing inside the line of most of these that are close to the bat. The pressure will build but the longer he's in the more chance he has of doing something meaningful and delaying Root's arrival at the crease. 
    You'd expect a bowling change soon too which might provide a chance to score a bit
    As it just has with two lovely boundaries off Smith. What he has shown is that he has a good temperament and certainly hasn't looked like a rabbit in headlights in what are very difficult conditions. His and Duckett's job now is to get us to lunch just one down.
    Jinxed! 
  • Unfortunately Bethell has gone caught behind to a very good ball despite the third umpire having to check Smith's front foot for 10 (34)

    43-2




  • The Mulleted debutant gets out the blonde debutant.
  • edited 12:05AM
    Crawley out LBW for a 12 ball duck. Never looked comfortable.
    It doesn’t matter . He seems undroppable for some strange reason . 
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  • Smith is trying to outdo Atkinson for no balls. It almost cost him Bethell's wicket. 
  • edited 12:04AM
    And then Smith with a legitimate ball makes Root play on for a four ball duck

    45-3 (14.3) at lunch

    Duckett 32* (40)
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    To be fair to Bethell, I would like to think that he's playing inside the line of most of these that are close to the bat. The pressure will build but the longer he's in the more chance he has of doing something meaningful and delaying Root's arrival at the crease. 
    You'd expect a bowling change soon too which might provide a chance to score a bit
    As it just has with two lovely boundaries off Smith. What he has shown is that he has a good temperament and certainly hasn't looked like a rabbit in headlights in what are very difficult conditions. His and Duckett's job now is to get us to lunch just one down.
    Jinxed! 
    But I wasn't wrong about Root not coming to the crease before lunch
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    To make thing's even worse TNT are doing a piece on Smith's girlfriend Amelia Kerr, player of the final and the tournament in the Women's T20 WC. Yesterday's lunchtime slot about Glenn Phillips and how he has had to cope with having ADHD was fascinating with footage of him and his wife climbing the highest peaks in NZ by way of escape from the pressures of cricket. 
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    Funny how the 2 legal deliveries took wickets. Also funny that we don't get a reply of those "legal"  deliveries.

    And why dudnt they go off for lunch once Bethel was out......but did once Root was out. Same over. So either go off when Bethel was out (it was a minute to lunch) or carry on the over until all 6 (legal) deliveries have been bowled.

    And if anyone says...."but there was still a minute of play until lunch" I will gently remind you that we lost 7 overs yesterday due to slow play. So 60 seconds isn't going to make a jot of difference.   
  • Duckett out hooking pulling a ball from O'Rourke for 46 (61)

    71-4 (21.2)
  • Brook dropped at gully by Phillips off Smith when on 18
  • A 6 from Brook takes us to 102-4 (27.2)
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  • edited 2:48AM
    We’re in a right muddle selection wise. 

    There’s an argument for this in 12 months time. 

    Crawley
    Duckett
    Smith
    Root
    Brook
    Pope (WK)
    Stokes (c)
    Atkinson
    Carse
    Wood
    Bashir
     
    However balancing the side is so difficult with Stokes, the keepers etc etc.
  • edited 2:54AM
    But I’ve no confidence in Bashir, Stokes at 7 is mental but he’s been battling terribly anyway and you don’t know how many overs you’re getting, you’re swapping the gloves and order, you don’t know what you’re getting out of Wood and there’s a chance Archer is in the equation. 

    It’s a mess. 
  • England recover to 246/5 
    Pope got 77

    Brook not out 91
    Stokes not out 9
  • 100 up for Brook

    259-5
  • edited 5:45AM
    Catches win matches and NZ have dropped 6 of them today with 4 of those off the batting of Brooks
  • 319-5 at close. England and Harry Brook's day specifically

    Brook 132* (163)
    Stokes 37* (75)
  • We’re in a right muddle selection wise. 

    There’s an argument for this in 12 months time. 

    Crawley
    Duckett
    Smith
    Root
    Brook
    Pope (WK)
    Stokes (c)
    Atkinson
    Carse
    Wood
    Bashir
     
    However balancing the side is so difficult with Stokes, the keepers etc etc.
    We can't now qualify for the WTC Final and whatever Stokes says about not worrying about that competition, the fact is that it does reflect our overall performances in this cycle (we've won 9/19 with only Pakistan, West Indies and Bangladesh below us). Equally, we did have a good day today but that was largely helped by those six drops and had Phillips clung onto a less than difficult chance when Brook was on just 18 things would have looked a whole lot different. 

    There is no easy solution to the balance as you rightly point out but Pope with the gloves, in the long term, is asking for trouble - we've seen today how drops can harm a side (Blundell was one of the culprits). Pope's movement and glove work simply isn't up to international standard but I suspect that they will persevere with him at 3 until such time as he proves otherwise and then make room for Smith to move up if the case arises to drop Pope and bring in a proper keeper on a permanent basis be that Robinson (if he does well in the remaining two Tests) or someone else. 

    Stokes' bowling has been pretty innocuous in this match and with only 11 Test wickets in the last two years from 22 matches (12 in which he's bowled), he really is nothing more than a fifth bowling "filler" but there's no way he's going to be dropped/drop himself all the time he has that self-belief that he can do a job and because he is seen as a leader which Pope really isn't (Brook would be a far better option). 

    In Carse, Atkinson, Wood, Archer, Potts, Stone and even Saqib, we do seem to have the basis of a quick seam bowling attack and as a unit that's probably as fast a unit as we've ever had. Though replacing the guile of Anderson and Broad is a more long term challenge altogether as will keeping those six or seven fit. 

    I too worry about Bashir and the Aussies getting after him with his limited experience and with the prospect that he's going to be sitting in the stands watching Leach bowl for Somerset. It's easy to say that England will find another county for him but where, especially when all bar four of the round of fixtures are in April, May and September.  

    The positives in the batting are Duckett (now averaging 41.07) and the match winners we have in Root and Brook. Today, however, was another example of how Crawley struggles in countering the moving ball. Four Test hundreds from 92 innings with none of those specifically match winning ones does raise doubts especially with his record in Australia/NZ now standing at 235 runs from 12 innings at an average of 19.58. Unless he has a continued run of low scores, I very much doubt that they will drop him, however he does, because this regime has always believed that he will come good at some point and always assuming no one else "comes from the clouds" to put pressure on him. Strange as it may seem, I did actually like the way Bethell batted today by comparison, in terms of his "leaves" and not allowing scoreboard pressure to get the better of him (he got a very good ball to get him out) and if McCullum thinks he can do a job at 3, having never batted there before, I'm sure that he will believe that he can open too. 

    In the immortal words of Jonny Nash "There Are More Questions Than Answers".
  • Well, that was a nice surprise to wake up to. 
  • I went to bed when Duckett holed out. I wasn't expecting the Kiwis to suddenly forget how to catch!
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