Need the regulator to come in and really have some power and stop this continuing.
Whatever you think of a club and it's fans, (and you tend to always hear the loud minority of bell ends rather than the average fan) it's a shame that a long history and graft is being shut down by the constant stream of megalomaniacs.
Football is increasingly unaffordable and alienated from its roots and it's only strong fan groups that have any impact and even that is becoming harder to impact with money coming from abroad sources.
I think this is happening in every walk of life but the exaggerated and easily understandable consequences are so apparent in football.
I don't want to get too in politics but it's hard for this not to breach into this when, at least to me, football is just one big screen into modern issues we all face.
Sheffield Wednesday may not deserve to stay up to some of ya, but I least hope for that to be seen on the pitch, not off it.
@operationpig, I am assuming Chansiri is selling Hillsborough?
The guy is a nasty piece of work.
PS, were there any problems with the supporters when you had the wonderful Katrien Meire with you?
Obviously @operationpig will know more but quite why Chansiri would want to sell Hillsborough is unclear to me. I think the company that owns Hillsborough is owed at least some back rent and charges an awful lot of money, reported to be £2.5 million a year for Wednesday to play there. He’s got the club by the short and curlies and judging by his valuation of the football club he’s unlikely to sell Hillsborough for a reasonable price when he can get £2.5 million a year income. I see that as being one of the biggest hurdles any buyer of the football club has to navigate. This will become even more of an issue if the club is relegated and income drops although I suppose there could be relegation clause reducing the rent ? Guessing here but I would also imagine that the football club are saddled with stadium upkeep costs which are as we know are significant with The North Stand not safe to use. Chansiri obviously negotiated very lucrative terms for his Hillsborough owning Sheffield 3 company.
I am sure he has also not paid the last two years rent on Hillsborough, surely for the money being asked it would include the ground? If not, he is clearly playing games and has no intention of selling the club.
@operationpig, I am assuming Chansiri is selling Hillsborough?
The guy is a nasty piece of work.
PS, were there any problems with the supporters when you had the wonderful Katrien Meire with you?
Obviously @operationpig will know more but quite why Chansiri would want to sell Hillsborough is unclear to me. I think the company that owns Hillsborough is owed at least some back rent and charges an awful lot of money, reported to be £2.5 million a year for Wednesday to play there. He’s got the club by the short and curlies and judging by his valuation of the football club he’s unlikely to sell Hillsborough for a reasonable price when he can get £2.5 million a year income. I see that as being one of the biggest hurdles any buyer of the football club has to navigate. This will become even more of an issue if the club is relegated and income drops although I suppose there could be relegation clause reducing the rent ? Guessing here but I would also imagine that the football club are saddled with stadium upkeep costs which are as we know are significant with The North Stand not safe to use. Chansiri obviously negotiated very lucrative terms for his Hillsborough owning Sheffield 3 company.
I am sure he has also not paid the last two years rent on Hillsborough, surely for the money being asked it would include the ground? If not, he is clearly playing games and has no intention of selling the club.
A nasty, dangerous man.
I’ve also heard that two years back rent are owed. That’s a debt to the Sheffield 3 company and although he owns both the football club and Sheffield 3 the rent is a debt held by the football club. In reality the football club is worth pennies. He should be looking to get rid for a song but he’s not. Hillsborough is worth something but not anywhere near the £100 million he’s asking and I don’t even know if that figure includes the stadium.
Edit : chatGTP informs that the £100 million asking price does not include Hillsborough
@operationpig, I am assuming Chansiri is selling Hillsborough?
The guy is a nasty piece of work.
PS, were there any problems with the supporters when you had the wonderful Katrien Meire with you?
Obviously @operationpig will know more but quite why Chansiri would want to sell Hillsborough is unclear to me. I think the company that owns Hillsborough is owed at least some back rent and charges an awful lot of money, reported to be £2.5 million a year for Wednesday to play there. He’s got the club by the short and curlies and judging by his valuation of the football club he’s unlikely to sell Hillsborough for a reasonable price when he can get £2.5 million a year income. I see that as being one of the biggest hurdles any buyer of the football club has to navigate. This will become even more of an issue if the club is relegated and income drops although I suppose there could be relegation clause reducing the rent ? Guessing here but I would also imagine that the football club are saddled with stadium upkeep costs which are as we know are significant with The North Stand not safe to use. Chansiri obviously negotiated very lucrative terms for his Hillsborough owning Sheffield 3 company.
I am sure he has also not paid the last two years rent on Hillsborough, surely for the money being asked it would include the ground? If not, he is clearly playing games and has no intention of selling the club.
A nasty, dangerous man.
I’ve also heard that two years back rent are owed. That’s a debt to the Sheffield 3 company and although he owns both the football club and Sheffield 3 the rent is a debt held by the football club. In reality the football club is worth pennies. He should be looking to get rid for a song but he’s not. Hillsborough is worth something but not anywhere near the £100 million he’s asking and I don’t even know if that figure includes the stadium.
Edit : chatGTP informs that the £100 million asking price does not include Hillsborough
Should the money he want does not include the ground he will know he's not getting anywhere near this figure, he is playing a very dangerous game.
An absolute mystery what he is playing at, and why. The club are teetering on the edge of disaster.
Crazy how little coverage both Sheff Wed / Morecambe are getting from the Footballing world, whilst Sky Sports are more interested in Isak's behaviour, as he tries to push for a move to Liverpool.
At least they're not doing countdown clocks like they did for Bolton / Bury I suppose.
The reality is that every club in the Championship (and most in L1) loses money. Some small amounts, some eye watering amounts, and it all gets covered by the owners. Until they either run out of money or interest in the club.
And then, that's when it gets tricky, especially as few of them these days are "supporters made good", who will accept their losses and try and find decent buyers for the club. A random owner from the US, Thailand, Belgium or Turkey may not think like that, as we know from our own experience.
I would love to know what Roland really thought of ESI? Did he think they were genuinely wealthy owners, or did he just see them as a very convenient way of getting rid of the loss making club while holding on the the stadium and training ground, not caring what happened next? Indeed did he know Southall was dodgy, and sold the club to ESI just to spite us?
The reality is that every club in the Championship (and most in L1) loses money. Some small amounts, some eye watering amounts, and it all gets covered by the owners. Until they either run out of money or interest in the club.
And then, that's when it gets tricky, especially as few of them these days are "supporters made good", who will accept their losses and try and find decent buyers for the club. A random owner from the US, Thailand, Belgium or Turkey may not think like that, as we know from our own experience.
I would love to know what Roland really thought of ESI? Did he think they were genuinely wealthy owners, or did he just see them as a very convenient way of getting rid of the loss making club while holding on the the stadium and training ground, not caring what happened next? Indeed did he know Southall was dodgy, and sold the club to ESI just to spite us?
I'm pretty sure it was the latter. It should not have been allowed to happen.
The reality is that every club in the Championship (and most in L1) loses money. Some small amounts, some eye watering amounts, and it all gets covered by the owners. Until they either run out of money or interest in the club.
And then, that's when it gets tricky, especially as few of them these days are "supporters made good", who will accept their losses and try and find decent buyers for the club. A random owner from the US, Thailand, Belgium or Turkey may not think like that, as we know from our own experience.
I would love to know what Roland really thought of ESI? Did he think they were genuinely wealthy owners, or did he just see them as a very convenient way of getting rid of the loss making club while holding on the the stadium and training ground, not caring what happened next? Indeed did he know Southall was dodgy, and sold the club to ESI just to spite us?
Don't think it was to spite us (even though he hated us) I think it was purely a good (for him) business decision, get rid of the loss making football club while retaining The Valley & SL. Whether he knew esi were dodgy well he did send a message to supporters, " enjoy it while you can"
The reality is that every club in the Championship (and most in L1) loses money. Some small amounts, some eye watering amounts, and it all gets covered by the owners. Until they either run out of money or interest in the club.
And then, that's when it gets tricky, especially as few of them these days are "supporters made good", who will accept their losses and try and find decent buyers for the club. A random owner from the US, Thailand, Belgium or Turkey may not think like that, as we know from our own experience.
I would love to know what Roland really thought of ESI? Did he think they were genuinely wealthy owners, or did he just see them as a very convenient way of getting rid of the loss making club while holding on the the stadium and training ground, not caring what happened next? Indeed did he know Southall was dodgy, and sold the club to ESI just to spite us?
Don't think it was to spite us (even though he hated us) I think it was purely a good (for him) business decision, get rid of the loss making football club while retaining The Valley & SL. Whether he knew esi were dodgy well he did send a message to supporters, " enjoy it while you can"
I still remember his poisonous 'be careful what you wish for' jibe when he went. He absolutely knew they were a bunch of fucking chancers. The man was, and is, a (unt.
Crazy how little coverage both Sheff Wed / Morecambe are getting from the Footballing world, whilst Sky Sports are more interested in Isak's behaviour, as he tries to push for a move to Liverpool.
At least they're not doing countdown clocks like they did for Bolton / Bury I suppose.
Maybe a bit late but there has been a fair bit on five live today about Morecambe
Crazy how little coverage both Sheff Wed / Morecambe are getting from the Footballing world, whilst Sky Sports are more interested in Isak's behaviour, as he tries to push for a move to Liverpool.
At least they're not doing countdown clocks like they did for Bolton / Bury I suppose.
the lower league teams do not exist as far as the broadcast companies are concerned until they need to feel up the schedules, that is about it.
Crazy how little coverage both Sheff Wed / Morecambe are getting from the Footballing world, whilst Sky Sports are more interested in Isak's behaviour, as he tries to push for a move to Liverpool.
At least they're not doing countdown clocks like they did for Bolton / Bury I suppose.
Yep, seen it said on here that a big club going to the wall is what foot all needs as it will wake people up. Sad thing is that whilst Sheffield Wednesday are a big club, if they did go under, it would cause barely a ripple as nowadays all the focus is solely in the PL. Plenty of fringe football fans would not know what division Sheffield Weds are even in.
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Whatever you think of a club and it's fans, (and you tend to always hear the loud minority of bell ends rather than the average fan) it's a shame that a long history and graft is being shut down by the constant stream of megalomaniacs.
Football is increasingly unaffordable and alienated from its roots and it's only strong fan groups that have any impact and even that is becoming harder to impact with money coming from abroad sources.
I think this is happening in every walk of life but the exaggerated and easily understandable consequences are so apparent in football.
I don't want to get too in politics but it's hard for this not to breach into this when, at least to me, football is just one big screen into modern issues we all face.
Sheffield Wednesday may not deserve to stay up to some of ya, but I least hope for that to be seen on the pitch, not off it.
Edit : chatGTP informs that the £100 million asking price does not include Hillsborough
At least they're not doing countdown clocks like they did for Bolton / Bury I suppose.
And then, that's when it gets tricky, especially as few of them these days are "supporters made good", who will accept their losses and try and find decent buyers for the club. A random owner from the US, Thailand, Belgium or Turkey may not think like that, as we know from our own experience.
I would love to know what Roland really thought of ESI? Did he think they were genuinely wealthy owners, or did he just see them as a very convenient way of getting rid of the loss making club while holding on the the stadium and training ground, not caring what happened next? Indeed did he know Southall was dodgy, and sold the club to ESI just to spite us?
Yep, seen it said on here that a big club going to the wall is what foot all needs as it will wake people up. Sad thing is that whilst Sheffield Wednesday are a big club, if they did go under, it would cause barely a ripple as nowadays all the focus is solely in the PL. Plenty of fringe football fans would not know what division Sheffield Weds are even in.