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Holden sacked?! (Ed. Yes - Confirmed)
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Oh if it’s just Senda then it won’t have cost a fortune, but the cheap option is normally to sack the manger, let the coaching staff have a crack at it for a couple of matches and see what happens. Something tells me they have a manager + coaching team lines up already.SDAddick said:
I don't think Senda was that expensive. I suspect part of the reason he was promoted to the first team in the first place is because he was here and relatively cheap. He didn't seem to be really highly regarded by players and people who regularly watch the youth teams the way others (Hayes) seem to be.se9addick said:It’s interesting that they’ve (apparently) sacked the back room staff too. That’s an expensive thing to do, also suggests they have someone lined up who’ll bring their team with them.2 -
Two potential theories. 1) This a convenient distraction tactic / rationale for when we don’t sign anyone over the next few days. And / Or 2) maybe the transfer malaise is because Scott and Holden didn’t agree on targets.Regardless, Methven is guilty of being full of shit until proven otherwise and we haven’t got any money, until proven otherwise.8
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Do you mean Darren Moore, or just more managers incoming?Valiantphil said:Moore incoming.10 -
is it? We will just appoint another manager, give him a long contract and then sack him. Lack of investment on the playing side is the problem.PeanutsMolloy said:Right decision.
The squad may not be the finished article but we could have a £30m squad and still be shite with the dismal coaching and tactical naivety Holden’s responsible for.You can only coach the players you have - we have a squad full of shit ones…again.4 -
Darren Moore would get in our team….easy one to sell to the Texan soccer investors.
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He came in 2 years ago. You can tell how quickly things have changed that Adkins was the manager at the time, and Ged Roddy the technical director9goalswentpastperry said:
Glyn Shimmell is the goalkeepers' coach. He's actually been kept on by every manager since Bowyer, I think.Bedsaddick said:
Are those backroom staff actually coaches ? I've not heard of them .MontcalmRed said:
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-appoint-millwalls-academy-coach-glyn-shimell-as-andy-marshalls-successor/#google_vignette
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Charlton board are drawing up a short list of prospective managers
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You’d like to think so, and might explain the lack of signings in the last 4 weeks, but I doubt it and want to be proved wrong.se9addick said:
Oh if it’s just Senda then it won’t have cost a fortune, but the cheap option is normally to sack the manger, let the coaching staff have a crack at it for a couple of matches and see what happens. Something tells me they have a manager + coaching team lines up already.SDAddick said:
I don't think Senda was that expensive. I suspect part of the reason he was promoted to the first team in the first place is because he was here and relatively cheap. He didn't seem to be really highly regarded by players and people who regularly watch the youth teams the way others (Hayes) seem to be.se9addick said:It’s interesting that they’ve (apparently) sacked the back room staff too. That’s an expensive thing to do, also suggests they have someone lined up who’ll bring their team with them.0 -
Jason Pearce interim manager. He was bloody U16 manager less than a year ago. Utter shambles.8
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Magician needed.3
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On the official site0
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Glad we've kept the guy who's in charge of set pieces31
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"nor his development of many younger players....because we have forced him to play them due to lack of investment."38 -
I just hope it isn't a Jacko situation where Pearce goes on a run a form, gets a contract, then immediately gets found out for lacking ideas.The Red Robin said:Jason Pearce interim manager. He was bloody U16 manager less than a year ago. Utter shambles.
I'm not too concerned about who the interim manager is. I highly doubt Pearce is in consideration for the job, and if he is then I'll kick off.5 -
I liked DH as a fella but yesterday really was the last straw for me. Obviously we need a few additional players but not a chance in hell this squad should be losing 5 on the bounce to the teams we have lost to. I’m glad this time the back room has gone as well we need to total reset18
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Sad that it hasn't worked out as Holden's a nice guy. His limitations as a manager have been cruelly exposed whilst bereft of some key injured players and he hasn't been able to find a winning formula to paper over the cracks.
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Would have thought one of SMT by phone.Raith_C_Chattonell said:Who would've done the sacking exactly - how does it work with all the board members, Methwen etc?Wouldn’t be the first time someone sacked by a phone call,little s/&ts.0 -
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Absolute wank - I liked Holden, top bloke
never given a fair crack19 -
In hindsight the regime aligned / connected ITKs have had this one in the oven all week… clear shift of tone and frankly blame7
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He didn't have to start Deji, Anderson, and Kanu yesterday. He chose to with more experienced players left on the bench.SELR_addicks said:
"nor his development of many younger players....because we have forced him to play them due to lack of investment."15 -
I agree , although Jacko did better than both of his successors, without better players . I’d also rather Pearce than Lee JohnsonSDAddick said:
I just hope it isn't a Jacko situation where Pearce goes on a run a form, gets a contract, then immediately gets found out for lacking ideas.The Red Robin said:Jason Pearce interim manager. He was bloody U16 manager less than a year ago. Utter shambles.
I'm not too concerned about who the interim manager is. I highly doubt Pearce is in consideration for the job, and if he is then I'll kick off.0 -
Writing was on the wall after the 6-0 at Ipswich for me, and I’ll also refer to the NTT20 pre season preview, who thought despite the signing, that Holden was the weak link, and could be the reason we aren’t competitive. Smart are Ally and George21
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So we now have to go through another cycle of a manager coming in, changing the system, it's not his players ... groundhog day5
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In case you need reminding how dysfunctional the club is, Holden was given a 3-year contract in March.11
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Surely it should have been Hayes supported by Pearce.1
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Charlie has distanced himself from the sacking in this article…which seems to suggest that it was Andy Scott’s call:Lewis Coaches said:
Would have thought one of SMT by phone.Raith_C_Chattonell said:Who would've done the sacking exactly - how does it work with all the board members, Methwen etc?Wouldn’t be the first time someone sacked by a phone call,little s/&ts.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/dean-holden-dismissed-by-charlton-athletic-with-backroom-departures-too/
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The squad may not be good enough yet for a promotion challenge but it’s not “full of shit ones”. That’s just cobblers.Brownie12 said:
is it? We will just appoint another manager, give him a long contract and then sack him. Lack of investment on the playing side is the problem.PeanutsMolloy said:Right decision.
The squad may not be the finished article but we could have a £30m squad and still be shite with the dismal coaching and tactical naivety Holden’s responsible for.You can only coach the players you have - we have a squad full of shit ones…again.
Being silent on the touchline when Asiimwe was the last man, leaving us ludicrously exposed to the counter for their winner yesterday, was gross professional incompetence on Holden’s part and, in the circumstances of desperately needing a point, unforgivable. Curbs would have been going ballistic, whistling and barking at least at some of the players who’d gone forward to assume defensive positions.
Of course they need to appoint the right manager now but Holden is patently not a good enough coach and us tactically naive. He’d had his chance.
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