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Since Methven has left the building the inside information on here and elsewhere has been a far less greater than before.Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer
Clever man that Charlie5 -
Like it or not, the reason the club is in a far better place, is pretty much down to Charlie, that obviously sticks in throat of many on here, which considering it’s benefitted us as a fan base is quite petty especially from what I would assume are quite a lot of rather more mature people. Now I’m pretty sure there are plenty of lols coming my way, however rather than lol , maybe explain why you disagree, I’m happy to learn, otherwise lols just look like old men/women being bitter.shirty5 said:
Since Methven has left the building the inside information on here and elsewhere has been a far less greater than before.Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer
Clever man that Charlie13 -
You're right that some of it is better but a lot of it isn't. For example, there's a relatively skeleton administrative staff (partly evidenced by how hard it was to get hold of anyone on the phone for Chelsea tickets) and he created lots of half baked ideas. He definitely provided a bit of a platform for others to develop which seems to be what he might have done ok at for Sunderland tooSword65pf said:
Like it or not, the reason the club is in a far better place, is pretty much down to Charlie, that obviously sticks in throat of many on here, which considering it’s benefitted us as a fan base is quite petty especially from what I would assume are quite a lot of rather more mature people. Now I’m pretty sure there are plenty of lols coming my way, however rather than lol , maybe explain why you disagree, I’m happy to learn, otherwise lols just look like old men/women being bitter.shirty5 said:
Since Methven has left the building the inside information on here and elsewhere has been a far less greater than before.Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer
Clever man that Charlie4 -
By all means I’m not saying he did everything fantastically, but he managed to get the consortium on board, to which he no doubt benefitted, that’s business.but we needed something like that to happen, however certain people won’t give credit whatever.fenaddick said:
You're right that some of it is better but a lot of it isn't. For example, there's a relatively skeleton administrative staff (partly evidenced by how hard it was to get hold of anyone on the phone for Chelsea tickets) and he created lots of half baked ideas. He definitely provided a bit of a platform for others to develop which seems to be what he might have done ok at for Sunderland tooSword65pf said:
Like it or not, the reason the club is in a far better place, is pretty much down to Charlie, that obviously sticks in throat of many on here, which considering it’s benefitted us as a fan base is quite petty especially from what I would assume are quite a lot of rather more mature people. Now I’m pretty sure there are plenty of lols coming my way, however rather than lol , maybe explain why you disagree, I’m happy to learn, otherwise lols just look like old men/women being bitter.shirty5 said:
Since Methven has left the building the inside information on here and elsewhere has been a far less greater than before.Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer
Clever man that Charlie3 -
I got banned from that forum for disagreeing with him that we’d get Graham Potter in (he’d just left Chelsea and we were facing a League One relegation battle) but agree overall that any info is better than none even if a red herringSword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer7 -
Again a bit strange to be banned for having an opinion, when that’s what a forum is all about, none of us are right all of the time, but people do get precious when they don’t agree.follett said:
I got banned from that forum for disagreeing with him that we’d get Graham Potter in (he’d just left Chelsea and we were facing a League One relegation battle) but agree overall that any info is better than none even if a red herringSword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer1 -
We do not, Mr Idiot.Sword65pf said:
Again a bit strange to be banned for having an opinion, when that’s what a forum is all about, none of us are right all of the time, but people do get precious when they don’t agree.follett said:
I got banned from that forum for disagreeing with him that we’d get Graham Potter in (he’d just left Chelsea and we were facing a League One relegation battle) but agree overall that any info is better than none even if a red herringSword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer7 -
That one’s gone over my head I’m afraid. I’m sure it’s quite funny.👍KiwiValley said:
We do not, Mr Idiot.Sword65pf said:
Again a bit strange to be banned for having an opinion, when that’s what a forum is all about, none of us are right all of the time, but people do get precious when they don’t agree.follett said:
I got banned from that forum for disagreeing with him that we’d get Graham Potter in (he’d just left Chelsea and we were facing a League One relegation battle) but agree overall that any info is better than none even if a red herringSword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer0 -
Sword65pf said:
That one’s gone over my head I’m afraid. I’m sure it’s quite funny.👍KiwiValley said:
We do not, Mr Idiot.Sword65pf said:
Again a bit strange to be banned for having an opinion, when that’s what a forum is all about, none of us are right all of the time, but people do get precious when they don’t agree.follett said:
I got banned from that forum for disagreeing with him that we’d get Graham Potter in (he’d just left Chelsea and we were facing a League One relegation battle) but agree overall that any info is better than none even if a red herringSword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer"Mr Idiot"Was a slur someone attempted in an argument (Wasnt me for once) what feels like ages ago, but was probably this time last year or in 2024 - Rather than being an insult everyone found it amusing, and occasionally makes its way into comments bit like "whoosh" etc.0 -
Oh well, I’m not quite the whipper snapper on here as my posts may suggest, I’ve been reading since 2011, but must have missed that one. Live and let live as they say, thanks for the clarification I was beginning to get a complex😂ForeverAddickted said:Sword65pf said:
That one’s gone over my head I’m afraid. I’m sure it’s quite funny.👍KiwiValley said:
We do not, Mr Idiot.Sword65pf said:
Again a bit strange to be banned for having an opinion, when that’s what a forum is all about, none of us are right all of the time, but people do get precious when they don’t agree.follett said:
I got banned from that forum for disagreeing with him that we’d get Graham Potter in (he’d just left Chelsea and we were facing a League One relegation battle) but agree overall that any info is better than none even if a red herringSword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer"Mr Idiot"Was a slur someone attempted in an argument (Wasnt me for once) what feels like ages ago, but was probably this time last year or in 2024 - Rather than being an insult everyone found it amusing, and occasionally makes its way into comments bit like "whoosh" etc.2 -
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day .Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer4 -
😂 that’s the spirit credit when it’s due and all that.Bedsaddick said:
Even a broken clock is right twice a day .Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer1 -
Yeah I'm sure he thinks thatSword65pf said:
Like it or not, the reason the club is in a far better place, is pretty much down to Charlie, that obviously sticks in throat of many on here, which considering it’s benefitted us as a fan base is quite petty especially from what I would assume are quite a lot of rather more mature people. Now I’m pretty sure there are plenty of lols coming my way, however rather than lol , maybe explain why you disagree, I’m happy to learn, otherwise lols just look like old men/women being bitter.shirty5 said:
Since Methven has left the building the inside information on here and elsewhere has been a far less greater than before.Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer
Clever man that Charlie0 -
Is he wrong? And why if he is?, I genuinely don’t care either way as we are better off and he’s moved on, I’m sure he’s not going to take it to heart whilst sipping rum punches whilst on a day trip to the Dunns river falls.Croydon said:
Yeah I'm sure he thinks thatSword65pf said:
Like it or not, the reason the club is in a far better place, is pretty much down to Charlie, that obviously sticks in throat of many on here, which considering it’s benefitted us as a fan base is quite petty especially from what I would assume are quite a lot of rather more mature people. Now I’m pretty sure there are plenty of lols coming my way, however rather than lol , maybe explain why you disagree, I’m happy to learn, otherwise lols just look like old men/women being bitter.shirty5 said:
Since Methven has left the building the inside information on here and elsewhere has been a far less greater than before.Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer
Clever man that Charlie0 -
If Methven was so good why was he hoofed out?!Sword65pf said:
Like it or not, the reason the club is in a far better place, is pretty much down to Charlie, that obviously sticks in throat of many on here, which considering it’s benefitted us as a fan base is quite petty especially from what I would assume are quite a lot of rather more mature people. Now I’m pretty sure there are plenty of lols coming my way, however rather than lol , maybe explain why you disagree, I’m happy to learn, otherwise lols just look like old men/women being bitter.shirty5 said:
Since Methven has left the building the inside information on here and elsewhere has been a far less greater than before.Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer
Clever man that Charlie3 -
I haven’t questioned or said I was dissapointed in him going, nor have I said anything about the job he did whilst in his position once they took over, just that it was him that approached the consortium and it was to our benefit, but people won’t give any credit and jump on a bandwagon, lol to my comment because it’s easy, rather than make they’re point in discussion.do you disagree? If so why? If it’s because of salmon trousers, then I take it all back.ElfsborgAddick said:
If Methven was so good why was he hoofed out?!Sword65pf said:
Like it or not, the reason the club is in a far better place, is pretty much down to Charlie, that obviously sticks in throat of many on here, which considering it’s benefitted us as a fan base is quite petty especially from what I would assume are quite a lot of rather more mature people. Now I’m pretty sure there are plenty of lols coming my way, however rather than lol , maybe explain why you disagree, I’m happy to learn, otherwise lols just look like old men/women being bitter.shirty5 said:
Since Methven has left the building the inside information on here and elsewhere has been a far less greater than before.Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer
Clever man that Charlie0 -
He DID NOT approach the consortium, They approached him.Sword65pf said:
I haven’t questioned or said I was dissapointed in him going, nor have I said anything about the job he did whilst in his position once they took over, just that it was him that approached the consortium and it was to our benefit, but people won’t give any credit and jump on a bandwagon, lol to my comment because it’s easy, rather than make they’re point in discussion.do you disagree? If so why? If it’s because of salmon trousers, then I take it all back.ElfsborgAddick said:
If Methven was so good why was he hoofed out?!Sword65pf said:
Like it or not, the reason the club is in a far better place, is pretty much down to Charlie, that obviously sticks in throat of many on here, which considering it’s benefitted us as a fan base is quite petty especially from what I would assume are quite a lot of rather more mature people. Now I’m pretty sure there are plenty of lols coming my way, however rather than lol , maybe explain why you disagree, I’m happy to learn, otherwise lols just look like old men/women being bitter.shirty5 said:
Since Methven has left the building the inside information on here and elsewhere has been a far less greater than before.Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer
Clever man that Charlie
How do I know this? Because he said it himself in a public forum.
The consortium's main players (Brener, Friedman and Rosenfeld who together hold 70% of the shares) were already together as a consortium (JF and WR are brothers-in-Law.)
When they said they wanted an underperforming club with potential, near London and with a good academy Charlie said "That's Charlton". Source? Again Charlie himself.
He deserves credit for helping make the deal happen but his role in brokering the deal is, IMHO, overplayed by fans, often because they were being leaked that news by CM.
He also, IMHO, vastly overpromised how much losses could be reduced through cost cutting and increasing commercial income and it was this that lead, IMHO, to the owners pushing him into the CEO role months after the deal had been finally done. Remember, he initially had no formal management role IIRC, although he was very much involved.
Eventually, that was his downfall IMHO, as he couldn't reduce the losses to under £2m PA as promised.
The structure he set up was unwieldy but we've now moved on Andy Scott and moved Jim Rodwell to Director of Football (which is what JR is, despite not having that title.) Gavin Carter was put in the role of Chairman by the Americans so that they could get a much better handle on what was, and what wasn't, working.
It is still concerning, to me at least, that we don't have a CEO since the Murphy deal collapsed and that we have lost other key staff but that can't be pinned on Charlie boy. The club has moved forward on the pitch and I think we have good owners. It seems they are looking for new blood to join the board and inject more money but that person isn't, if the person close to the board who I spoke to is to be believed, Cal McNair. They laughed at the suggestion that he was in the directors box for the Oxford game. Maybe he was in the Covered End instead?
Charlie is a likable, outgoing marketing guy, it's just that the thing he is best at marketing is himself.
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Ok thankyou, that’s all I was asking,obviously you are closer to the action and appreciate the info.like I said my original point was never about what he did or didn’t do whilst in his position, but his original involvement, he was obviously involved and it was to the benefit of the club/fans at the time, whether or not he was liked doesn’t take away a positive interaction, but some are keen to overlook this and highlight what they didn’t like about him.Henry Irving said:
He DID NOT approach the consortium, They approached him.Sword65pf said:
I haven’t questioned or said I was dissapointed in him going, nor have I said anything about the job he did whilst in his position once they took over, just that it was him that approached the consortium and it was to our benefit, but people won’t give any credit and jump on a bandwagon, lol to my comment because it’s easy, rather than make they’re point in discussion.do you disagree? If so why? If it’s because of salmon trousers, then I take it all back.ElfsborgAddick said:
If Methven was so good why was he hoofed out?!Sword65pf said:
Like it or not, the reason the club is in a far better place, is pretty much down to Charlie, that obviously sticks in throat of many on here, which considering it’s benefitted us as a fan base is quite petty especially from what I would assume are quite a lot of rather more mature people. Now I’m pretty sure there are plenty of lols coming my way, however rather than lol , maybe explain why you disagree, I’m happy to learn, otherwise lols just look like old men/women being bitter.shirty5 said:
Since Methven has left the building the inside information on here and elsewhere has been a far less greater than before.Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer
Clever man that Charlie
How do I know this? Because he said it himself in a public forum.
The consortium's main players (Brener, Friedman and Rosenfeld who together hold 70% of the shares) were already together as a consortium (JF and WR are brothers-in-Law.)
When they said they wanted an underperforming club with potential, near London and with a good academy Charlie said "That's Charlton". Source? Again Charlie himself.
He deserves credit for helping make the deal happen but his role in brokering the deal is, IMHO, overplayed by fans, often because they were being leaked that news by CM.
He also, IMHO, vastly overpromised how much losses could be reduced through cost cutting and increasing commercial income and it was this that lead, IMHO, to the owners pushing him into the CEO role months after the deal had been finally done. Remember, he initially had no formal management role IIRC, although he was very much involved.
Eventually, that was his downfall IMHO, as he couldn't reduce the losses to under £2m PA as promised.
The structure he set up was unwieldy but we've now moved on Andy Scott and moved Jim Rodwell to Director of Football (which is what JR is, despite not having that title.) Gavin Carter was put in the role of Chairman by the Americans so that they could get a much better handle on what was, and what wasn't, working.
It is still concerning, to me at least, that we don't have a CEO since the Murphy deal collapsed and that we have lost other key staff but that can't be pinned on Charlie boy. The club has moved forward on the pitch and I think we have good owners. It seems they are looking for new blood to join the board and inject more money but that person isn't, if the person close to the board who I spoke to is to be believed, Cal McNair. They laughed at the suggestion that he was in the directors box for the Oxford game. Maybe he was in the Covered End instead?
Charlie is a likable, outgoing marketing guy, it's just that the thing he is best at marketing is himself.1 -
I wonder why that may be?Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer2 -
So do I,Care to explain?Off_it said:
I wonder why that may be?Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer1 -
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Not really. It is what it is. Bloke made too many enemies with his consistently appalling behaviour. Best leave it there.Sword65pf said:
So do I,Care to explain?Off_it said:
I wonder why that may be?Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer6 -
Ok, well I don’t know the bloke from Adam, so would be wrong of me to comment or take just your word for it with respect.Off_it said:
Not really. It is what it is. Bloke made too many enemies with his consistently appalling behaviour. Best leave it there.Sword65pf said:
So do I,Care to explain?Off_it said:
I wonder why that may be?Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer0 -
I did assume his ‘role’ in Jamaica was exaggerated and not quite the ‘move’ it was portrayed as.0
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What do think he’s doing then? Working in the bar? People may not like him but he’s obviously not stupid. Just don’t get the bad feelings for someone that didn’t do anything like the damage others have done to our club over the years.Hes just another part of the clubs history, we’ve moved on.valleynick66 said:I did assume his ‘role’ in Jamaica was exaggerated and not quite the ‘move’ it was portrayed as.I’m going to quit discussing this now because I’m not trying to be the CM appreciation society, that’s not my point I’m just saying like anyone I don’t see the point in putting the boot in when it’s unnecessary.4 -
Can see he took this comment well on other site 🤣Bedsaddick said:
Even a broken clock is right twice a day .Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer2 -
As in I assume it’s more a part time / small scale engagement.Sword65pf said:
What do think he’s doing then? Working in the bar? People may not like him but he’s obviously not stupid. Just don’t get the bad feelings for someone that didn’t do anything like the damage others have done to our club over the years.Hes just another part of the clubs history, we’ve moved on.valleynick66 said:I did assume his ‘role’ in Jamaica was exaggerated and not quite the ‘move’ it was portrayed as.I’m going to quit discussing this now because I’m not trying to be the CM appreciation society, that’s not my point I’m just saying like anyone I don’t see the point in putting the boot in when it’s unnecessary.0 -
Clearly some history, but from the outside looking in, the comments on here come across rather bitter and petty, for a grown up forum, to me any info is welcome and not a competition of who knows more.Radostanradical said:
Can see he took this comment well on other site 🤣Bedsaddick said:
Even a broken clock is right twice a day .Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer1 -
According to Into The Valley, confirmed by Wikipedia, McNair enjoys going out and slaughtering beautiful defenceless wild animals. I agree with what has been said there, McNair is a complete see you next Tuesday.
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99.9% on here have probably never met Charlie Methven or witnessed or even know about what it is that he isn't liked for, apart from maybe the way he came across on the Sunderland documentary and that he wore salmon trousers and was obviously middle class. However, its a bit like those who hate Kier Starmer now and think he and Labour are doing such an awful job - when you ask people why, they can't really give you any answers. It's the way of the world, as you appear to know. The fact he spoke to Reams a lot, the fella who runs the other chat site, and fed him information, wouldn't have gone down well with those on here who like to be ITK so....Sword65pf said:
Clearly some history, but from the outside looking in, the comments on here come across rather bitter and petty, for a grown up forum, to me any info is welcome and not a competition of who knows more.Radostanradical said:
Can see he took this comment well on other site 🤣Bedsaddick said:
Even a broken clock is right twice a day .Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer1 -
the way of the world now I guess, shame really when we all ultimately want the same thing and have the same passion for our club, if people have issues with Reams then I’m the sort of person that would talk to him as an individual not take the pack of wolves option. But I suppose that’s the pitfall of a forum/ social media.DOUCHER said:
99.9% on here have probably never met Charlie Methven or witnessed or even know about what it is that he isn't liked for, apart from maybe the way he came across on the Sunderland documentary and that he wore salmon trousers and was obviously middle class. However, it’s a bit like those who hate Kier Starmer now and think he and Labour are doing such an awful job - when you ask people why, they can't really give you any answers. It's the way of the world, as you appear to know. The fact he spoke to Reams a lot, the fella who runs the other chat site, and fed him information, wouldn't have gone down well with those on here who like to be ITK so....Sword65pf said:
Clearly some history, but from the outside looking in, the comments on here come across rather bitter and petty, for a grown up forum, to me any info is welcome and not a competition of who knows more.Radostanradical said:
Can see he took this comment well on other site 🤣Bedsaddick said:
Even a broken clock is right twice a day .Sword65pf said:
It does seem there is a section on here that just won’t have him, whether he’s right or wrong. I find that odd if any info is good or beneficial to us all being a little more in the know.SID said:
I’m not saying he gets everything right as an ITK (who does) but he seems to have hit the target a few times in the not too distant past if I remember correctly. Don’t ask me for specifics though I’m not a member on the other site and I can’t be bothered to search back even if it’s possible.SoundAsa£ said:
He will do anything and say anything to get the post ratings higher.😠chev said:Reams on other forum saying cal mcnair has put 20 million in to club for transfers this winter window and next summer0
