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Premier League 23/24
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Something that doesn't take 5 mins worth of slow motion replays to work out! If it's taking that long then it can't be clear.ForeverAddickted said:
But what gets defined as a clear error?Off_it said:Either use it for absolutely clear errors only or get rid.1 -
If referees were competent at their jobs and open when they get things wrong, they wouldn't be so scared of making decisions.
It's their own fault and PGMOL especially.2 -
I was fine with how things were before, apart from the ridiculous banning of foreign refs.ForeverAddickted said:
(1) Referee got it wrong, they need helpStu_of_Kunming said:
It’s been a shit show from day 1, the Liverpool game just confirmed that.ForeverAddickted said:Your right the mentality is wrong, they're terrified of making the wrong call... The fallout of the Liverpool goal has shown Officials the outcome of that.
scrap the entire thing.
(2) Bring in VAR
(3) VAR gets it wrong
(4) Get rid of it, or bring in Foreign Refs
Yet to hear what the next step is?
Will you all accept error then?0 -
Foreign refs have always been banned here no?Stu_of_Kunming said:
I was fine with how things were before, apart from the ridiculous banning of foreign refs.ForeverAddickted said:
(1) Referee got it wrong, they need helpStu_of_Kunming said:
It’s been a shit show from day 1, the Liverpool game just confirmed that.ForeverAddickted said:Your right the mentality is wrong, they're terrified of making the wrong call... The fallout of the Liverpool goal has shown Officials the outcome of that.
scrap the entire thing.
(2) Bring in VAR
(3) VAR gets it wrong
(4) Get rid of it, or bring in Foreign Refs
Yet to hear what the next step is?
Will you all accept error then?
However Jarred Gillett is the one foreign referee over here... Ironic isn't it, as he was the VAR referee today who advised the on-field referee to take a look at it
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SELR_addicks said:If referees were competent at their jobs and open when they get things wrong, they wouldn't be so scared of making decisions.
It's their own fault and PGMOL especially.
English football is not set up for refs to be open about their decisions afterwards though is it. Players cheat and dive all the time and the ref has to decipher that nonsense on top of what is already a difficult job. They are on the pitch whilst fans have birds eye views and Sky have a thousand super slow mo cameras. If the ref comes out at the end and says, sorry guys I gott that wrong he gets pilloried, managers simply say it doesn't change the result, Liverpool ask for a replay, Match of the Day still plays it a hundred times over to prove it was wrong.
Ultimately people have to accept that like everyone refs get it wrong, that fine margins and cheating players means they get more than one wrong a game. It's an impossible job yet people want perfection.
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They have and it’s always been ridiculous, I can’t think of one reason how it can be justified, the idea that the best English speaking foreign ref is no better then our worst is absolutely ludicrous.ForeverAddickted said:
Foreign refs have always been banned here no?Stu_of_Kunming said:
I was fine with how things were before, apart from the ridiculous banning of foreign refs.ForeverAddickted said:
(1) Referee got it wrong, they need helpStu_of_Kunming said:
It’s been a shit show from day 1, the Liverpool game just confirmed that.ForeverAddickted said:Your right the mentality is wrong, they're terrified of making the wrong call... The fallout of the Liverpool goal has shown Officials the outcome of that.
scrap the entire thing.
(2) Bring in VAR
(3) VAR gets it wrong
(4) Get rid of it, or bring in Foreign Refs
Yet to hear what the next step is?
Will you all accept error then?
However Jarred Gillett is the one foreign referee over here... Ironic isn't it, as he was the VAR referee today who advised the on-field referee to take a look at it0 -
Burnley had a tough run of games at the start of the season, but are continuing to lose against lesser teams now. 4 points from 11 games is a grim start to the season.0
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Ashley Young has been very much Everton's lucky charm in his last three matches - OG, sent off and OG2
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Sheff Utd pick up a massive result against Wolves.
Oops sorry wrong team from Sheffield
Everton are rising up the League, regardless of todays result though, so you'd think that the bottom three are doomed, unless Bournemouth decide to be charitable0 -
If ever a team like Everton were to get a 12 point deduction, this is probably the year to do it. So much trash at the bottom they could still survive.2
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How is that not a red card for Arsenal??0
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Havertz gets a yellow for that "tackle" and three Newcastle players get booked for complaining about the decision!DaveMehmet said:How is that not a red card for Arsenal??0 -
With the threshold for a yellow that low there has to be a sending off in this game.0
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Ref has lost the plot here.0
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How has Guimaraes got away with that elbow?0
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If they disallow this goal, its a bloody joke!1
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VAR is a joke, bin it off0
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Ball goes out, a foul and offside.
Of course they award the goal.5 -
You can’t guess on the ball going out, it wasn’t a foul, Gabriel is a wimp, and it’s not offside3
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You don't have to guess
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Ball isn't out, it just looks it from the angle we saw, you need to see an overhead angle. It'll be like that Japan goal at the world cup where the side edge of the ball is over the edge of the white line.SELR_addicks said:Ball goes out, a foul and offside.
Of course they award the goal.
Wasn't a foul, Gabriel was just weak.
Where was the offside?4 -
You can see the shadow of the ball on the white line?SELR_addicks said:You don't have to guess
Japan vs Germany showed the curvature of the ball can fool people2 -
Remember this goal the ball looked miles out and was later proven to be (just about) in play. I rest my case. Thank you.
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At that angle, you’re guessingSELR_addicks said:You don't have to guess3 -
In a professional league with millions on the line, should they not have an automated system by now?Rothko said:
At that angle, you’re guessingSELR_addicks said:You don't have to guess
It's a joke that you'd have to rely on angles than a simple sensor inside the ball.4 -
Regardless of the score anyway this has been another atrocious refereeing performance in a big game. Ref lost the control of the game after minute 40.0
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When he should have sent off Havertz and not booked the 3 Newcastle players for their protests?SELR_addicks said:Regardless of the score anyway this has been another atrocious refereeing performance in a big game. Ref lost the control of the game after minute 40.0 -
I'm not generally a fan of VAR. But I have to say that I absolutely loved that!
I didn't realise I dislike Arsenal as much as I clearly do.5 -
When he let Bruno spend the 90 minutes forearming players and going in late over and over again with no consequences?JohnBoyUK said:
When he should have sent off Havertz and not booked the 3 Newcastle players for their protests?SELR_addicks said:Regardless of the score anyway this has been another atrocious refereeing performance in a big game. Ref lost the control of the game after minute 40.0 -
Anyway, good on the 'plucky' billionaire state-owned club run with blood money.
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