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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,931
    edited August 2023
    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-united-protest-mason-greenwood-27500596

    They've handled this so badly.  Would have been so much easier just to quietly move him on abroad somewhere and avoid having to even comment etc.  Pretend Ten Hag just doesn't think he needs him now they've signed Antony, Hjolund etc.
  • Really enjoyed  the Brentford V Spurs game.

    I've said all summer to anyone that'll listen that I think Postecoglou will do well at Spurs.  I think he's a very good manager whose teams play good attacking football.

    Spurs could score a lot of goals this season.  They desperately need a striker though, as 
    Richarlison is shite
  • And another centre back to keep Dier miles away from playing.

    And a creative central midfielder.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,933
    Really enjoyed  the Brentford V Spurs game.

    I've said all summer to anyone that'll listen that I think Postecoglou will do well at Spurs.  I think he's a very good manager whose teams play good attacking football.

    Spurs could score a lot of goals this season.  They desperately need a striker though, as Richarlison is shite
    My son couldn’t believe he was watching the same player who is central to Brazils starting line up.
  • Chelsea have now had a £115m bid accepted for Caicedo.

    Brighton really know how to drive a hard bargain.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,933
    £115m is totally and utterly ridiculous.

    Chelsea and this crazy spending … for a club with 40k crowds and not even in Europe…. Is going to end in some serious tears
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,229
    And another centre back to keep Dier miles away from playing.

    And a creative central midfielder.
    Thought they signed Maddison? They should look at trying to get Lukaku off Chelsea, reckon he could rejuvenate his career there
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,740
    Chelsea are giving Caicedo an eight year contract… with a 9th year option!
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,215
    Thought FA/UEFA/FIFA whoever changed the rules so you could only have 5 years max?
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Well done Liverpool for pushing the price up that Chelsea paid by entering an auction they were never going to win.

    Great work again by Tony Bloom but if anyone thinks Brighton will get within 12 points of last seasons total you must be on drugs after losing both Caicedo and Macallister. 

    Caicedo at press conference:
    Q. You have signed for Chelsea who aren't in Europe let alone the Champions League so why have you joined the odious Chelsea fc?

    A. Billuzo, Cashqui, Luca, Guita, Plata mucha.
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  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,116
    iaitch said:
    Thought FA/UEFA/FIFA whoever changed the rules so you could only have 5 years max?
    The transfer fee can only be spread over 5 years for FFP, a contract can still as long as club and player want. 
  • sam3110 said:
    And another centre back to keep Dier miles away from playing.

    And a creative central midfielder.
    Thought they signed Maddison? They should look at trying to get Lukaku off Chelsea, reckon he could rejuvenate his career there
    Yeah sorry I mean behind that, in the two - maybe they won't and it's more of a double pivot but it does feel like they're leaving a hell of a lot to Maddison only if so.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,021
    West Ham sign James Ward-Prowse for £30m 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,028
    MarcusH26 said:
    West Ham sign James Ward-Prowse for £30m 
    He’s a very decent player, I’m a bit surprised more clubs weren’t interested in him this summer. 
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,579
    £115m is totally and utterly ridiculous.

    Chelsea and this crazy spending … for a club with 40k crowds and not even in Europe…. Is going to end in some serious tears
    Shame.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,933
    So you could have signed Ward-Prowse and Mac Allister for basically half of what Chelsea have spunked on Caicedo? Mad.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 10,999
    So you could have signed Ward-Prowse and Mac Allister for basically half of what Chelsea have spunked on Caicedo? Mad.
    Caicedo cost only a little bit less than Ward-Prowse, Mac Allister and Tonali all combined. 

    It's obscene really it is. I don't blame Caicedo himself but shit like this really is disgusting when you have clubs up and down the country scrabbling to make ends meet in the lower leagues.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    And another centre back to keep Dier miles away from playing.
    The big oaf hasn't had the greatest weekend.  Overlooked for the captaincy (rightly so) then left out of the squad altogether (woo hoo!).  Finally a manager that realises he cannot play in a back four.  Think the Barcelona pre-season friendly was the last nail in his coffin.

    Have since seen a couple of links this morning of him possibly going to Saudi Arabia.  Christ, have they seen him try to defend?

    Every chance Hojbjerg will be going shortly too.

    Have only watched the extended highlights of Brentford v Spurs but so nice to see Bissouma given the trust of the manager, unlike Conte who just refused to use him.  Maddison looked the part but Richarlison and Sonny looked off the pace.

    So nice to be able to watch a Spurs side play on the front foot again.  
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,824
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66491687

    Interesting article here on Wolves, and how they're really struggling to meet the Financial Fair Play rules on losses, leading to Lopetegui quitting. The Chelsea accounts will be fascinating, and need a forensic review to validate all the sources of income to see they're genuine...
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,215
    iaitch said:
    Thought FA/UEFA/FIFA whoever changed the rules so you could only have 5 years max?
    The transfer fee can only be spread over 5 years for FFP, a contract can still as long as club and player want. 
    Thanks for explaining that.
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  • Chelsea currently have 13 players (soon to be 14) on their books whose contract expires in 2029 or later. 5 of those don't expire until 2031!

    All of these players are young though, so it will either be a genius plan if the players do well and the likes of Real Madrid come knocking, or it could go very wrong and they end up facing huge contract pay offs if some of these signings don't work out.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,824
    Chelsea currently have 13 players (soon to be 14) on their books whose contract expires in 2029 or later. 5 of those don't expire until 2031!

    All of these players are young though, so it will either be a genius plan if the players do well and the likes of Real Madrid come knocking, or it could go very wrong and they end up facing huge contract pay offs if some of these signings don't work out.
    Several of those will by the law of averages flop, especially with foreign signings where the failure rate is higher...
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,215
    If Chelsea were cute they should ditch Caicedo and sign his replacement above and save £100m.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,740
    Romeo Lavia has apparently chosen to join Chelsea over Liverpool now as well…
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,979
    edited August 2023
    Romeo Lavia has apparently chosen to join Chelsea over Liverpool now as well…
    I've read that the Lavia deal (50m) will take their spending to over 900m in 3 windows since Boehly took over. 

    The figure is also more than the entire spend of Spain's La Liga in the same period.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,933
    Lavia - the guy who has played 30 odd senior games. 

    It's ridiculous.

    I would love to see it all go belly up this season.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited August 2023
    Romeo Lavia has apparently chosen to join Chelsea over Liverpool now as well…
    I've read that the Lavia deal (50m) will take their spending to over 900m in 3 windows since Boehly took over. 

    Chelsea the club with a 40k capacity.
    Can anyone explain how one club can spend 900 million in 3 windows and this is ok with Fair play ?
    How much have they received for players going out ?
    Good to see yet another player who wants to play in the Champions League, NOT.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,966
    MNF is absolute class. The new technology and Carney adding her opinion, fascinating stuff. That piece about Salah and what he sees was awesome.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,824
    Lavia - the guy who has played 30 odd senior games. 

    It's ridiculous.

    I would love to see it all go belly up this season.
    https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/07/why-the-premier-leagues-big-guns-are-looking-at-romeo-lavia/

    According to this article, City have a £40m buyback clause, not activated though until next summer, hence the rush to buy him now. You sense that if the clause had been £70m, Chelsea would have bid £80m.