Payne feels like one of those players that's excellent in League 2 but not quite good enough to be a starter for a top L1 team. Will be interesting to see how we upgrade there.
I'd really like Lewis Bate but I think Leeds might need another CM in their end. I saw they had a deal collapse yesterday for a German CM.
A loan. We genuinely can't sell the remaining dregs can we. And for people thinking we should keep Payne - nobody in League 1 wants him.
His contract is up next summer I think. This loan is as good as a sale
Except it comes with no sales income!
who on earth is gonna buy him!!....I'm guessing we are also still paying some of his wages until the summer as well
That's my point entirely. Nobody wants to buy players we don't want ourselves.
Our recruitment has been so poor the last 18 months. Killing us for this season and maybe next. I fear we are stuck in League 1 until Chuks and Kirk are off the books or the owners stick in a pile of £EQUITY not loans.
Payne feels like one of those players that's excellent in League 2 but not quite good enough to be a starter for a top L1 team. Will be interesting to see how we upgrade there.
I'd really like Lewis Bate but I think Leeds might need another CM in their end. I saw they had a deal collapse yesterday for a German CM.
I think it’s ifwe upgrade there. If we can’t move McGrandles and DJ on they may be the players who cover. I’m sure Anderson will get plenty of game time too.
Other clubs will want Payne, McGrandles and Kirk but also know we are desperate to off load them.
So we will try to hold out for fees and they will try to get us to pay very high percentages of their wages.
Sandgaard over paying in fees and wages in the past coming back to bite us but Scott only shifting them on loan in January meant the can was only kicked a few months down the road so on him too.
Payne feels like one of those players that's excellent in League 2 but not quite good enough to be a starter for a top L1 team. Will be interesting to see how we upgrade there.
I'd really like Lewis Bate but I think Leeds might need another CM in their end. I saw they had a deal collapse yesterday for a German CM.
Watching the Salford v Leeds cup game last night, pre match they posted up how many Leeds players have either been sold or loaned out. They listed about 10 out on loan, with the mention that they were signed and offered little, and probably couldn't be sold hence being loaned out to get them off the payroll. The might be further up the food chain, but if they've bought badly then the players aren't good enough, even for championship. There's really nothing to suggest that these players who were bought by a premiership club, are any good, but for the fact that they were called Premier league players last season. Would any of them want their stock value to fall by cloning down to league one? Most on their OUT list went abroad.
Without wanting to make this the Sean Clare thread...
Our problem wasn't letting him go.
It's that we've not got a better player in to replace him.
Disagree, he was terrible! Cost us goals after goals last season.. Okay, he had a decent engine, when he wanted, but other times he was just lazy, and quick the blame others!
He has already made 3 mistakes for Wigan this season that have lead to goals..
I am pleased he was moved on - but we should have replaced him, which is a mistake!
That's agreeing isn't it?
I said it wasn't a mistake letting him go, the mistake was not getting a good replacement in.
Without wanting to make this the Sean Clare thread...
Our problem wasn't letting him go.
It's that we've not got a better player in to replace him.
Disagree, he was terrible! Cost us goals after goals last season.. Okay, he had a decent engine, when he wanted, but other times he was just lazy, and quick the blame others!
He has already made 3 mistakes for Wigan this season that have lead to goals..
I am pleased he was moved on - but we should have replaced him, which is a mistake!
That's agreeing isn't it?
I said it wasn't a mistake letting him go, the mistake was not getting a good replacement in.
Payne feels like one of those players that's excellent in League 2 but not quite good enough to be a starter for a top L1 team. Will be interesting to see how we upgrade there.
I'd really like Lewis Bate but I think Leeds might need another CM in their end. I saw they had a deal collapse yesterday for a German CM.
I think it’s ifwe upgrade there. If we can’t move McGrandles and DJ on they may be the players who cover. I’m sure Anderson will get plenty of game time too.
I feel like Mcgrandles might be the easiest to shift on? Probably be interest in this division and the SPL. Not sure about DJ if we'll even get interest. I'd like to see Anderson get mins but also get managed and not overplayed too much.
A loan. We genuinely can't sell the remaining dregs can we. And for people thinking we should keep Payne - nobody in League 1 wants him.
His contract is up next summer I think. This loan is as good as a sale
Except it comes with no sales income!
These loan deals are designed to either get his Wage off our books, or part of it.
Think we can be sure we are still paying a fair part of his wages and this deal completely confirms that because otherwise it would just be a free transfer wouldn't it? Absolutely no other reason I can think of to loan someone who's contract is expiring in summer (for any of the 3 parties involved)
Obviously mk have said "we'll take him but you still have to pay for it"
A loan. We genuinely can't sell the remaining dregs can we. And for people thinking we should keep Payne - nobody in League 1 wants him.
His contract is up next summer I think. This loan is as good as a sale
Except it comes with no sales income!
These loan deals are designed to either get his Wage off our books, or part of it.
Think we can be sure we are still paying a fair part of his wages and this deal completely confirms that because otherwise it would just be a free transfer wouldn't it? Absolutely no other reason I can think of to loan someone who's contract is expiring in summer (for any of the 3 parties involved)
Obviously mk have said "we'll take him but you still have to pay for it"
in that case we might have paid up some of his contract to let him go for free like Palace did with Inniss. This just lets MK Dons send him back in January if he’s rubbish
Leeds are looking to bring in at least another 1 midfielder. They don't want to be playing 17 year old Archie Gray so often, like they have had to already. Bate is currently behind Gray in the pecking order, so if he is to move, you'd expect it to be on Friday if/when Leeds sign their targets.
Surely not. Them going in for Chuks would be an absolute lifeline for us. He's a fantastic player but he's on a big wage on a very long contract and he just can't stay fit at Charlton. He'd probably play every game at Wrexham somehow as well. The more I think about it, Wrexham can actually afford to have a brilliant player who just comes on for an impact and might miss a lot of games through injury, the effect he'd have on L2 defences in the last 20 minutes when he id play would be devastating.
Oh FFS who in their right mind can even suggest Chucks is a target for anyone ????
Absolutely AndyG, sums up some of the random thoughts that people have posted in the last few days.
It is ridiculous mate. I would be fantastic in the Premiership if only I could wipe 40 years off my age, improve my football ability by atleast 1000000%... These minor points are more likely than anyone being interested in Chucks lol
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I'd really like Lewis Bate but I think Leeds might need another CM in their end. I saw they had a deal collapse yesterday for a German CM.
Our recruitment has been so poor the last 18 months. Killing us for this season and maybe next. I fear we are stuck in League 1 until Chuks and Kirk are off the books or the owners stick in a pile of £EQUITY not loans.
Other clubs will want Payne, McGrandles and Kirk but also know we are desperate to off load them.
So we will try to hold out for fees and they will try to get us to pay very high percentages of their wages.
Sandgaard over paying in fees and wages in the past coming back to bite us but Scott only shifting them on loan in January meant the can was only kicked a few months down the road so on him too.
Friday evening might be frantic.
I said it wasn't a mistake letting him go, the mistake was not getting a good replacement in.
But at least it's something off the book.
I feel like Mcgrandles might be the easiest to shift on? Probably be interest in this division and the SPL. Not sure about DJ if we'll even get interest. I'd like to see Anderson get mins but also get managed and not overplayed too much.
Obviously mk have said "we'll take him but you still have to pay for it"
Wrexham linked with five strikers, Chuks, Lyle and our former academy player Hanlan being three of them.