If we got promoted back to the premier league we would obviously need more hospitality and media space. The solution that springs to mind is lose the top tier of the west stand, allowing expansion of the press gallery and two levels of executive boxes/studio space/etc. where the seating currently is. You'd need to maintain a least some seating up there, maybe a handful of rows between the press gantry and the executive boxes to allow continued use of the lounge up there.
Then expand the Jimmy seed, filling in the corners, raising the roof to match the Curbishly stand and extend backwards. Overall capacity would be around 32k, but with massively more hospitality and media space. There's also room for another 4 or 5 boxes at the back of the Curbishley stand, but alone that won't add much income.
Of course this is all pie in the sky, nothing is happening whilst we don't own the ground, nor whilst we're 2 promotions away from the promised land.
I know it's only your idea, but I hope we'd never do that to the west stand.
Those stands where there's multi level of boxes, instead of fan seats are very ugly. One of the reasons I dislike going to Orient is we have to sit opposite that ugly stand of a few seats than floors of interior space.
I don't disagree. It wasn't a suggestion based on my own preference, just a realistic assessment of how a significant amount of hospitality space could be added without having to rebuild the stand. I think you could do something that looks much nicer that the Orient effort, but it would be a compromise. The far more expensive, but more aesthetic solution would be to remove the top tier, add in a second level of hospitality and then reconstruct a smaller top tier. It wouldn't look that much different to the current arrangement, but would offer significantly more hospitality space.
So like the away end at Villa, but with the larger tier at the bottom and the smaller above.
Oh, it was a long time ago, but for some reason back in the day I thought it was a new stand when my mum opened it, or at least a new roof and seats. I'd only been to The Valley once, in 1966, and it wasn't covered then.
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
Well they fixed 5 of those bulbs in that North West corner this lunchtime so not as hard as you are making out in the sponsorship lounge along your buddy Charles
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
Well they fixed 5 of those bulbs in that North West corner this lunchtime so not as hard as you are making out in the sponsorship lounge along your buddy Charles
If they had the money they should go for LED lighting, my other club Surrey are having them installed this winter.
I also noticed as shown in the photo there were what looked like CCTV-like cameras, have these also been installed for goal-line technology? sure I never noticed these before.
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
Running the lights on second hand components from EBay is not as impressive as your making out @Swisdom
I also noticed as shown in the photo there were what looked like CCTV-like cameras, have these also been installed for goal-line technology? sure I never noticed these before.
Think one is for player performance tracking etc, and one for crowd management
I also noticed as shown in the photo there were what looked like CCTV-like cameras, have these also been installed for goal-line technology? sure I never noticed these before.
Think one is for player performance tracking etc, and one for crowd management
There are goal line technology camera in the North East corner
I also noticed as shown in the photo there were what looked like CCTV-like cameras, have these also been installed for goal-line technology? sure I never noticed these before.
Think one is for player performance tracking etc, and one for crowd management
There are goal line technology camera in the North East corner
That has to be the most elaborate CCTV bracket I have ever seen, and not a single clip on the cable
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
The firm that put them up in the first place would be bloody delighted to help fix/repair/replace them I am sure. Nothing difficult about it.
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
The firm that put them up in the first place would be bloody delighted to help fix/repair/replace them I am sure. Nothing difficult about it.
The work isn’t the difficult part - getting the materials is
as for “why wasn’t it done before” because it costs a fuckton of money to do it and none of the owners in the last 10 years were interested in the outlay
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
The firm that put them up in the first place would be bloody delighted to help fix/repair/replace them I am sure. Nothing difficult about it.
The work isn’t the difficult part - getting the materials is
as for “why wasn’t it done before” because it costs a fuckton of money to do it and none of the owners in the last 10 years were interested in the outlay
But its sticking plaster stuff, when it needs replacing wholesale.
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
The firm that put them up in the first place would be bloody delighted to help fix/repair/replace them I am sure. Nothing difficult about it.
The work isn’t the difficult part - getting the materials is
as for “why wasn’t it done before” because it costs a fuckton of money to do it and none of the owners in the last 10 years were interested in the outlay
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
The firm that put them up in the first place would be bloody delighted to help fix/repair/replace them I am sure. Nothing difficult about it.
The work isn’t the difficult part - getting the materials is
as for “why wasn’t it done before” because it costs a fuckton of money to do it and none of the owners in the last 10 years were interested in the outlay
So not sure his much money we are talking about - can you elaborate?
If the work isn’t ‘hard’ then there should not be excessive cost for that should there? If you are indicating ‘parts’ are expensive then don’t the economics more point to changing the lights completely to current design / technology?
How long have the current owners deferred this was more my question - not the failures of those before.
Changing the floodlights to the new standard costs several hundred thousand pounds so, understandably, make do and mend” is preferred whilst we are where we are in L1.
but as time moves on the materials cost more and more to acquire or fabricate - and it takes longer.
there is no quick fix and the work is being done at “mates rates” already but suppliers love to extort when it’s a bespoke item
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
The firm that put them up in the first place would be bloody delighted to help fix/repair/replace them I am sure. Nothing difficult about it.
The work isn’t the difficult part - getting the materials is
as for “why wasn’t it done before” because it costs a fuckton of money to do it and none of the owners in the last 10 years were interested in the outlay
Not what I have been told.
Not sure who has told you what but I can assure you we have people there at the drop of a hat once instructed (sometimes when not even instructed) but some of these materials are bespoke now.
For too many years this club neglected this kind of stuff so, like everything else, it’s going to take time and money to remedy
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
The firm that put them up in the first place would be bloody delighted to help fix/repair/replace them I am sure. Nothing difficult about it.
The work isn’t the difficult part - getting the materials is
as for “why wasn’t it done before” because it costs a fuckton of money to do it and none of the owners in the last 10 years were interested in the outlay
Not what I have been told.
Not sure who has told you what but I can assure you we have people there at the drop of a hat once instructed (sometimes when not even instructed) but some of these materials are bespoke now.
For too many years this club neglected this kind of stuff so, like everything else, it’s going to take time and money to remedy
Exactly too much was left by shoddy owners/SMT over the last 10 years, as so many pointed out during that period of time
Changing the floodlights to the new standard costs several hundred thousand pounds so, understandably, make do and mend” is preferred whilst we are where we are in L1.
but as time moves on the materials cost more and more to acquire or fabricate - and it takes longer.
there is no quick fix and the work is being done at “mates rates” already but suppliers love to extort when it’s a bespoke item
So thank you for expanding on your response.
I’m left to feel that perhaps therefore your original comment may have been an exaggeration (for poetic effect) in the context of the costs of running a football club:
The lights are old so getting them working isn't as simple a a trip to B&Q to pick up a bulb. The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
The firm that put them up in the first place would be bloody delighted to help fix/repair/replace them I am sure. Nothing difficult about it.
The work isn’t the difficult part - getting the materials is
as for “why wasn’t it done before” because it costs a fuckton of money to do it and none of the owners in the last 10 years were interested in the outlay
Not what I have been told.
Not sure who has told you what but I can assure you we have people there at the drop of a hat once instructed (sometimes when not even instructed) but some of these materials are bespoke now.
For too many years this club neglected this kind of stuff so, like everything else, it’s going to take time and money to remedy
An acquaintance of mine who works for a lighting company who supplies floodlighting to a lot of football grounds.
But I think @valleynick66 has probably called it, in that it clearly won't be cheap like changing a bulb at home so it's about definition of what a lot of money is for a L1 club I guess.
Sorry, wasn't trying to call you out, as I appreciate all the stuff you and your family quite obviously do for the club. 👍
Changing the floodlights to the new standard costs several hundred thousand pounds so, understandably, make do and mend” is preferred whilst we are where we are in L1.
but as time moves on the materials cost more and more to acquire or fabricate - and it takes longer.
there is no quick fix and the work is being done at “mates rates” already but suppliers love to extort when it’s a bespoke item
I also noticed as shown in the photo there were what looked like CCTV-like cameras, have these also been installed for goal-line technology? sure I never noticed these before.
Think one is for player performance tracking etc, and one for crowd management
There are goal line technology camera in the North East corner
That has to be the most elaborate CCTV bracket I have ever seen, and not a single clip on the cable
Pretty poor rigging. Wouldn’t’ve happened in my day! ;-)
Talking of lighting, I sit in the NWQ, the strip light in the stairwell hasnt been working for quite some time and when everyone leaves after the game its really dark down there, think it could only be a matter of time before someone stacks it. Im going to email the club later,got to be a health and safety issue surely?!
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The bulbs are extremely hard to get hold of. The components inside are also hard to get now BUT we had a lot more working lights today and will be doing some more work to the West Stand this coming week.
We are literally going as fast as we can - but we are making progress
Or are we to believe it’s been in hand for months and months?
Cynically it’s been actioned in recent weeks only because it’s in danger of not meeting league requirements.
The firm that put them up in the first place would be bloody delighted to help fix/repair/replace them I am sure. Nothing difficult about it.
as for “why wasn’t it done before” because it costs a fuckton of money to do it and none of the owners in the last 10 years were interested in the outlay
If the work isn’t ‘hard’ then there should not be excessive cost for that should there? If you are indicating ‘parts’ are expensive then don’t the economics more point to changing the lights completely to current design / technology?
How long have the current owners deferred this was more my question - not the failures of those before.
but as time moves on the materials cost more and more to acquire or fabricate - and it takes longer.
there is no quick fix and the work is being done at “mates rates” already but suppliers love to extort when it’s a bespoke item
because it costs a fuckton of money to do it
An acquaintance of mine who works for a lighting company who supplies floodlighting to a lot of football grounds.
But I think @valleynick66 has probably called it, in that it clearly won't be cheap like changing a bulb at home so it's about definition of what a lot of money is for a L1 club I guess.
Sorry, wasn't trying to call you out, as I appreciate all the stuff you and your family quite obviously do for the club. 👍
;-)