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For Headingley, Anderson will be dropped for Wood. Unfortunately that may be it for his test career unless he can play a county game or two, take some wickets and prove he deserves a fitting farewell at OT.
And I would drop Robinson for a spinner - can't stand seeing him lolloping in a 79mph and the way he threw his wicket away yesterday when the likes of Broad and Tongue battled hard infuriated me.2 -
robinson's been disappointing. Definitely lost a yard of pace since last summer as well.3
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Totally agreecarly burn said:
So I've listened to McCullums interview after the defeat and a few of the players and I reckon I'm on the money here. Our batsmen, bar Root cannot handle the classic red ball tactic of soaking up the pressure approach by prodding, ducking and leaving for a couple of hours. They go all rabbit in the headlights and the pressure to score gets too much for them.carly burn said:It's been spoken about how this era has given us a bit of bite from where we were a year ago. But they are doing it by ultimately playing the shorter forms of the game in tests!
But when you come up against the likes of Australia it starts to look very suspect.
I'm becoming more and more of the opinion that Root aside, this country cannot produce test batsmen anymore. And for that reason, McCullum has came in and just said play the way you're good at. It's literally all we've got!
So the short overs format approach to test cricket is here to stay I'd say.0 -
I don't think he's fully fit. Got injured in Sussex's last County game before the ashes. He was magic this summer before that.kentaddick said:robinson's been disappointing. Definitely lost a yard of pace since last summer as well.0 -
Robinson was pathetic yesterday. After all the mouthing off, he had the perfect chance to show he was up for the fight, wear some bruises, and show he would give everything for the cause.kinveachyaddick said:For Headingley, Anderson will be dropped for Wood. Unfortunately that may be it for his test career unless he can play a county game or two, take some wickets and prove he deserves a fitting farewell at OT.
And I would drop Robinson for a spinner - can't stand seeing him lolloping in a 79mph and the way he threw his wicket away yesterday when the likes of Broad and Tongue battled hard infuriated me.
And instead showed none of that.6 -
Overs bowled to date:
Broad 91.5
Robinson 91.2
Anderson 77.0
Cummins 73.4
Lyon 66.0
Hazelwood 56.0
Moeen 47.0
Tongue 42.0
Starc 38.3
Root 30.0
Green 30.0
Stokes 29.0
Boland 26.0
Head 11.0
It is those top three that are the concern. Stokes and Root are bowling an average of 30 overs a Test between them. That has meant that our fast bowlers have had to bowl an average of 43 overs each per Test that is 11 overs each per Test more than their Aussie counterparts.
So who are the bowlers who are going to be able to bowl 43 overs each? Broad, Robinson and Anderson can't all play in the next Test and for that reason I would rest two of them and Broad is the one who looks most up for the challenge. Unless Headingley looks like a bunsen burner I think we are going to have to stick with four quicks especially as the Aussies would, inevitably, target Moeen. In any event, if we are talking about providing respite, Root's ER of 2.57 is the lowest of any of the 14 bowlers utilised in the Series. So I would play Broad, Tongue, Wood and Woakes with the latter strengthening our batting.
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100% this - all mouth and no trousers as the old saying goeskillerandflash said:
Robinson was pathetic yesterday. After all the mouthing off, he had the perfect chance to show he was up for the fight, wear some bruises, and show he would give everything for the cause.kinveachyaddick said:For Headingley, Anderson will be dropped for Wood. Unfortunately that may be it for his test career unless he can play a county game or two, take some wickets and prove he deserves a fitting farewell at OT.
And I would drop Robinson for a spinner - can't stand seeing him lolloping in a 79mph and the way he threw his wicket away yesterday when the likes of Broad and Tongue battled hard infuriated me.
And instead showed none of that.1 -
You missed Brook off you list 😉Addick Addict said:Overs bowled to date:
Broad 91.5
Robinson 91.2
Anderson 77.0
Cummins 73.4
Lyon 66.0
Hazelwood 56.0
Moeen 47.0
Tongue 42.0
Starc 38.3
Root 30.0
Green 30.0
Stokes 29.0
Boland 26.0
Head 11.0
It is those top three that are the concern. Stokes and Root are bowling an average of 30 overs a Test between them. That has meant that our fast bowlers have had to bowl an average of 43 overs each per Test that is 11 overs each per Test more than their Aussie counterparts.
So who are the bowlers who are going to be able to bowl 43 overs each? Broad, Robinson and Anderson can't all play in the next Test and for that reason I would rest two of them and Broad is the one who looks most up for the challenge. Unless Headingley looks like a bunsen burner I think we are going to have to stick with four quicks especially as the Aussies would, inevitably, target Moeen. In any event, if we are talking about providing respite, Root's ER of 2.57 is the lowest of any of the 14 bowlers utilised in the Series. So I would play Broad, Tongue, Wood and Woakes with the latter strengthening our batting.1 -
Indeed I did. He averages 1.3 overs a Test!Gary Poole said:
You missed Brook off you list 😉Addick Addict said:Overs bowled to date:
Broad 91.5
Robinson 91.2
Anderson 77.0
Cummins 73.4
Lyon 66.0
Hazelwood 56.0
Moeen 47.0
Tongue 42.0
Starc 38.3
Root 30.0
Green 30.0
Stokes 29.0
Boland 26.0
Head 11.0
It is those top three that are the concern. Stokes and Root are bowling an average of 30 overs a Test between them. That has meant that our fast bowlers have had to bowl an average of 43 overs each per Test that is 11 overs each per Test more than their Aussie counterparts.
So who are the bowlers who are going to be able to bowl 43 overs each? Broad, Robinson and Anderson can't all play in the next Test and for that reason I would rest two of them and Broad is the one who looks most up for the challenge. Unless Headingley looks like a bunsen burner I think we are going to have to stick with four quicks especially as the Aussies would, inevitably, target Moeen. In any event, if we are talking about providing respite, Root's ER of 2.57 is the lowest of any of the 14 bowlers utilised in the Series. So I would play Broad, Tongue, Wood and Woakes with the latter strengthening our batting.0 - Sponsored links:
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Yup chucked his wicket away when all of the other tailenders were happy to apply themselves and take what was coming.killerandflash said:
Robinson was pathetic yesterday. After all the mouthing off, he had the perfect chance to show he was up for the fight, wear some bruises, and show he would give everything for the cause.kinveachyaddick said:For Headingley, Anderson will be dropped for Wood. Unfortunately that may be it for his test career unless he can play a county game or two, take some wickets and prove he deserves a fitting farewell at OT.
And I would drop Robinson for a spinner - can't stand seeing him lolloping in a 79mph and the way he threw his wicket away yesterday when the likes of Broad and Tongue battled hard infuriated me.
And instead showed none of that.0 -
I think Jimmy sits this one out and comes back from OT for a last hurrah. Wood in.
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Spirit of the game? Give me strength
They're professional athletes in a team sport
The "spirit" is to win within the laws. Everything else is childish nonsense.
If Carey had faked to throw the ball to the slips but then breaks the stumps - that's gamesmanship but if JB wanders out before the ump calls 'over' he's still fair game
Bairstow was dozy as dozy can be, it cost him and possibly the team but he has zero grounds for complaint. Carey's just smarter/less complacent than he is.
Disheartening how so much "comment" on the incident refers to a 'run out'. Everybody on that tip can be ignored as a cricket moron.
For all the chattering headlines the first 2 tests were won by the better side. Over 2 innings per side the difference might not be vast but this Aus squad is just better than ours.
The slanging match and bad blood it has stirred up will spice up the Headingly match. All the barracking from the crowd will fire up the convicts same as the indignation and embarrassment should fire up our brave boys.
Hopefully tho the likes of Warner and Kawaja will still be as delicate and fragile as they were yesterday in the Long Room when a couple of gin soaked poshos cast them a pithy brickbat or two - hysterical.
FWIW Ashes 2023 is Australia's to lose.
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Is this cheating?Addick Addict said:On another note and one that will pleased many Kent supporters and non even one Worcester fan0 -
Didnt we do it with Joffra as well ?0
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Sam Curran would have enjoyed himself yesterday.1
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billysboots said:Didnt we do it with Joffra as well ?
Yeah I think Jofra got done 4? years early0 -
Always confused as to why Jofra had to wait at all as his Dad is Englishbillysboots said:Didnt we do it with Joffra as well ?0 -
Was Archer because he had played age cricket for the West Indies?Pelling1993 said:
Always confused as to why Jofra had to wait at all as his Dad is Englishbillysboots said:Didnt we do it with Joffra as well ?0 -
We changed the rules to get Archer playing for us sooner than he would otherwise have been eligible to. It used to be seven years residency but we changed it so that Archer could play for us in 2019 instead of having to wait 'til 2022.guinnessaddick said:
Is this cheating?Addick Addict said:On another note and one that will pleased many Kent supporters and non even one Worcester fan
Previously there was a seven-year residency period if someone had moved to England or Wales from a Full Member nation after their 18th birthday. The rule change aligned the ECB’s eligibility criteria closer to that of the ICC’s, which only requires a three-year residency period when moving from one Full Member nation to another.
The change meant that as long as a player is a British citizen, was either born in England or Wales or spent at least 210 days a year here for the last three years and hasn’t appeared as a ‘local’ player in another country in the previous three years, can represent England.0 - Sponsored links:
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I don't get this rule, the check list below should be used
Was the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
was a parent of the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
was a grandparent of the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
Is the player now a citizen of the country he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
anything else, not eligible to play
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Come on, you know international transfer fees will come to football soon so that Saudi Arabia can win the World Cup.Todds_right_hook said:I don't get this rule, the check list below should be used
Was the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
was a parent of the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
was a grandparent of the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
Is the player now a citizen of the country he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
anything else, not eligible to play2 -
I don't agree with the grandparent rule used in football. It's far too tenuous to play for a country because you have ONE grandparent born there.Todds_right_hook said:I don't get this rule, the check list below should be used
Was the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
was a parent of the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
was a grandparent of the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
Is the player now a citizen of the country he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
anything else, not eligible to play
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Is anyone else pissed off with the MCC’s response to events yesterday. Instead of sending the Australian team an apology for the abuse they rightly received in the long room and suspending three members. They should have sent a letter to the Australian team saying unless we receive a full and frank apology for your disgusting behaviour yesterday in future visits to the home of cricket, you will no longer be allowed to use the pavilion and you can get changed in a caravan in the car park.7
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What annoys me is everyone on SSN saying yesterday's events will fire England up, We shouldn't need a sloppy event like that to fire us up. We're playing the Aussies should be fired up with every ball. Remember when there was a period in the first test where it had been raining and was difficult batting conditions, Australia were on top of us proper in your face bowling and was running to the field after every over. First day of the last test england were so flat in what was awful conditions to bat. A bit of pride and spirit please lads.5
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Bairstow was out in accordance with the laws of the game but no way was he seeking an advantage. Pat Cummins had the ability to withdraw the appeal and go down in Ashes history with a demonstration of a huge act of sportsmanship. It makes me think of Jack Nicklaus in the Ryder Cup.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Ryder_Cup#:~:text=The%20competition%20ended%20in%20a,sportsmanship%20in%20all%20of%20sport.
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Is residency the acid test to stop someone from playing for a second country at the drop of a hat i.e. you played for three years for New Zealand, get dropped and then elect to play for England in the same season because you were born there. Equally, many of those who do switch countries may not have played a full international for their original country but played age group internationals - as Archer did when he played for West Indies U19s. It stops poaching too.Todds_right_hook said:I don't get this rule, the check list below should be used
Was the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
was a parent of the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
was a grandparent of the player born in the country that he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
Is the player now a citizen of the country he/she wishes to represent. If yes, crack on
anything else, not eligible to play1 -
posting without reading most comments, but i hope Broady gets the ball 10 am first morning on thursday, under-arms every delivery first over, one comes through to Jonny he flicks it up and twats the opening batter on the head with the ball1
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All I can say is the Western Terrace at Headingley will be lively!
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