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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)

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  • edited October 2022
    stonemuse said:
    Care to enlighten those of us who are not twit's please.. ;)
  • edited October 2022
    MarcusH26 said:
    stonemuse said:
    Care to enlighten those of us who are not twit's please.. ;)
    No names named or anything , just that there's a new interested party with access to funds to deal with both TS and Roland but TS remains an obstacle to a sale 
    Thanks for that..would always be helpful to have a translation for these twit announcements.. ;) 👍
  • “However, the current owners remain an obstacle to progress“

    @Airman Brown?
  • DA9 said:
    All 3 mate and apparently has links to Royalty in all of them. WERE RICH I TELL YA !!!!!!
  • MarcusH26 said:
    stonemuse said:
    Care to enlighten those of us who are not twit's please.. ;)
    No names named or anything , just that there's a new interested party with access to funds to deal with both TS and Roland but TS remains an obstacle to a sale 
    So there's now 2 obstacles (RD and TS) in the way of someone parting with approx. £20m to buy an entity that'll lose them £8m a year, unless they spend £10m+(?) at Christmas, in order to have an outside chance of going up. 
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  • Gribbo said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    stonemuse said:
    Care to enlighten those of us who are not twit's please.. ;)
    No names named or anything , just that there's a new interested party with access to funds to deal with both TS and Roland but TS remains an obstacle to a sale 
    So there's now 2 obstacles (RD and TS) in the way of someone parting with approx. £20m to buy an entity that'll lose them £8m a year, unless they spend £10m+(?) at Christmas, in order to have an outside chance of going up. 

    Yup , I do find the £20m figure very very steep but I don't have any recent takeovers to go off of other clubs to know what the going rate would be. 
  • edited October 2022
    J BLOCK said:
    “However, the current owners remain an obstacle to progress“

    @Airman Brown?
    I read that as Sandgaard and Roland asking the impossible 
  • edited October 2022
    So, if I read this right, not having Twitter, we are in a "possible" takeover situation AGAIN, Note the word possible, in the light of this should this be the point when this thread becomes Members Only?
  • J BLOCK said:
    “However, the current owners remain an obstacle to progress“

    @Airman Brown?
    I read that as Sandgaard and Roland asking the impossible 
    I don't think there's too much sand left in TS's hourglaass. I wonder, if a potential transaction requires The Valley to be part of the deal to facilitate a TS exit, how cooperative RD would be, and what the relationship between the two of them is like. I wouldn't be hopeful that RD will play ball now any more than previously.
  • A takeover saga will at least make the rest of the season interesting. Bring it on, hopefully this one has a bottomless pit of money he wants to waste on us
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  • se9addick said:
    Latest, possibly/probably nonsense, rumour:
    Apparently the source is JFC’s old man:
    That’s already been
    dismissed as rubbish by Ben Garner .. 
    Why do you do it?
  • IdleHans said:
    J BLOCK said:
    “However, the current owners remain an obstacle to progress“

    @Airman Brown?
    I read that as Sandgaard and Roland asking the impossible 
    I don't think there's too much sand left in TS's hourglaass. I wonder, if a potential transaction requires The Valley to be part of the deal to facilitate a TS exit, how cooperative RD would be, and what the relationship between the two of them is like. I wouldn't be hopeful that RD will play ball now any more than previously.
    Dushitelet will want mega bucks, he's always been about the land.
  • Unfortunately unless we have a billionaire fan that nobody knows about there will always be a divide between an owner and our fans. 99% of any potential owners will see us as a punt investment and there is no getting away from that. Our only hope is that they are not conmen. Put yourself (difficult I know) in the shoes of someone or group that want to buy a club and invest untold millions they are not doing it for the love of CAFC are they ? I'm not saying it wont happen but I do think we have to accept that there will always be stuff that the fans wont like
  • Gribbo said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    stonemuse said:
    Care to enlighten those of us who are not twit's please.. ;)
    No names named or anything , just that there's a new interested party with access to funds to deal with both TS and Roland but TS remains an obstacle to a sale 
    So there's now 2 obstacles (RD and TS) in the way of someone parting with approx. £20m to buy an entity that'll lose them £8m a year, unless they spend £10m+(?) at Christmas, in order to have an outside chance of going up. 
    All Sandgaard’s asking price tells me is that he’s not desperate to sell, yet.

    The longer this rolls on with him sinking millions in without getting anywhere breakeven, the more reasonable the price becomes. That could be a wait of a couple of months, it could six months, it could be another year…
  • In order to make "Project Breakeven" work, Charlton would need to increase their matchday and commercial income back to PL levels...

    https://southnorwoodaddick.com/2022/10/16/project-breakeven-is-unrealistic/



    https://southnorwoodaddick.com/2022/10/16/project-breakeven-is-unrealistic/

    That’s a great article. A big driver of Charlton’s commercial income in the PL was the local authority (using the lounges for meetings and events of various kinds) plus the Thames Gateway Bridge public enquiry. The latter was a one-off and the councils just don’t have the money to pay for facility hire in the way they did then. It’s also the case that outsourcing means the full revenue is no longer in the Charlton accounts, only the payment the club receives, which means it’s not strictly like for like.
    Interesting, I was wondering why the commercials dropped off so significantly (apart from the drop in leagues), also strange that they get weaker upon promotion in 2012/13 and never really recovered, is that the point when the shop/food was outsourced?
  • Victims of our own success in some ways. 
  • Just sell the club, our famous football club…
  • In order to make "Project Breakeven" work, Charlton would need to increase their matchday and commercial income back to PL levels...

    https://southnorwoodaddick.com/2022/10/16/project-breakeven-is-unrealistic/



    https://southnorwoodaddick.com/2022/10/16/project-breakeven-is-unrealistic/

    That’s a great article. A big driver of Charlton’s commercial income in the PL was the local authority (using the lounges for meetings and events of various kinds) plus the Thames Gateway Bridge public enquiry. The latter was a one-off and the councils just don’t have the money to pay for facility hire in the way they did then. It’s also the case that outsourcing means the full revenue is no longer in the Charlton accounts, only the payment the club receives, which means it’s not strictly like for like.
    Interesting, I was wondering why the commercials dropped off so significantly (apart from the drop in leagues), also strange that they get weaker upon promotion in 2012/13 and never really recovered, is that the point when the shop/food was outsourced?
    Shop was outsourced in 2012. I think the catering and hospitality was in 2014.
  • edited October 2022
    For those not on Twitter: 
    https://www.votvonline.com/home/the-2022-23-blogs/16-10-sandgaard-is-left-looking-like-a-man-with-no-plan/
    (Apols if link already posted).

    All the talk of JFC is fine, but until I’ve seen him play a few consecutive games I’m treating him almost like a new signing. Have no idea if his injuries have adversely affected him long term, but from the odd cup performances it’s possible. Can’t really tell until he gets a run in the team, which may of course never happen.
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