I wonder if they are expecting Dobson to leave and they are planning for life without him , hence the appearance tonight in the seconds.
That would be crazy and depressing and that can't be the plan if we really have ambitions but nothing would surprise me any more after the transfer of Mason Burstow after a handful of games.
Not having a go at anyone, but is it just me that cringes a little at this’Garnerball’ analogy? Just sounds like it should be something revolutionary but isn’t. It’s just footie isn’t it? Maybe I’m too old school and not down with the kool Katz!!
Every club does it nowadays... Kloppball, Bielsaball, Potterball, Gerrardball... just a few off the top of my head.
I know that’s why I mentioned it!!! It’s silly I know but it really annoys me!!!🤣…. Especially being third division!!😂,,, I got some popaballs , lovely snack.
I wonder if they are expecting Dobson to leave and they are planning for life without him , hence the appearance tonight in the seconds.
I am not sure this team was put out to be those being transfer listed or (team2) I think there was to many players who I would have been expecting to be around the first team involved to be honest.
I know it was only Welling but there was still an opportunity for players today to show what they have to offer. I agree with what some others have said about the team, I still do not think Ben Garner knows his starting 11 yet. And we will discover that against Accrington
You may well, of course , be right ; I’m only going by the old fashioned view that your first 11 might play together in pre season. But I’ve always assumed McGrandles was signed to replace Dobson
McGrandles was signed for reasons that will apparently will become clear, is what I was told.
My guess is that 1 or 2 things that were expected to happen haven't, as yet happened. Or something has happened that wasn't expected.
We were first in for him in March and it was close to being finished when Jackson was still here. It then needed Garner's sign off.
It's a really funny signing because now we have got Payne I am not sure if he has a case for being first choice in any of the positions or combinations.
Absolute no slight on his talent and I hope we get to see more of him this year, but if we’re going into next season with Leaburn as first choice winger I’d be worried.
Not sure why so many seem to think two of the front three should be wingers. You need an out & out striker but basically you need three front runners who can inter switch & you would hope are all capable of scoring goals. Given that sandgaard has decided that we will play a high pressing game it wouldn't surprise me if Jack Payne has been brought in to play in a front three. High energy player with an eye for goal he could possibly do a job up front & certainly couldn't do worse than Kirk who I don't see as a starter.
I wonder if they are expecting Dobson to leave and they are planning for life without him , hence the appearance tonight in the seconds.
I am not sure this team was put out to be those being transfer listed or (team2) I think there was to many players who I would have been expecting to be around the first team involved to be honest.
I know it was only Welling but there was still an opportunity for players today to show what they have to offer. I agree with what some others have said about the team, I still do not think Ben Garner knows his starting 11 yet. And we will discover that against Accrington
You may well, of course , be right ; I’m only going by the old fashioned view that your first 11 might play together in pre season. But I’ve always assumed McGrandles was signed to replace Dobson
McGrandles was signed for reasons that will apparently will become clear, is what I was told.
My guess is that 1 or 2 things that were expected to happen haven't, as yet happened. Or something has happened that wasn't expected.
We were first in for him in March and it was close to being finished when Jackson was still here. It then needed Garner's sign off.
It's a really funny signing because now we have got Payne I am not sure if he has a case for being first choice in any of the positions or combinations.
I wonder if they are expecting Dobson to leave and they are planning for life without him , hence the appearance tonight in the seconds.
I am not sure this team was put out to be those being transfer listed or (team2) I think there was to many players who I would have been expecting to be around the first team involved to be honest.
I know it was only Welling but there was still an opportunity for players today to show what they have to offer. I agree with what some others have said about the team, I still do not think Ben Garner knows his starting 11 yet. And we will discover that against Accrington
You may well, of course , be right ; I’m only going by the old fashioned view that your first 11 might play together in pre season. But I’ve always assumed McGrandles was signed to replace Dobson
Think McGrandles said he would not be playing the DM here when he first signed.
I wonder if they are expecting Dobson to leave and they are planning for life without him , hence the appearance tonight in the seconds.
I am not sure this team was put out to be those being transfer listed or (team2) I think there was to many players who I would have been expecting to be around the first team involved to be honest.
I know it was only Welling but there was still an opportunity for players today to show what they have to offer. I agree with what some others have said about the team, I still do not think Ben Garner knows his starting 11 yet. And we will discover that against Accrington
You may well, of course , be right ; I’m only going by the old fashioned view that your first 11 might play together in pre season. But I’ve always assumed McGrandles was signed to replace Dobson
Think McGrandles said he would not be playing the DM here when he first signed.
Did he not say that he thinks he’s better further forward? Anyway , I hope Dobson stays but playing him last night rather than against a team that will likely have a lot more of the ball seems baffling if he’s going to be around for all of next season.
Thought Ness looked very good today, interesting that BG moved him to CB and put Elerewere RB.
I agree, although I think it was partially because he was Lavelle and Ness for most of the game according to Terry 😂 (said with much love as I really enjoy his commentary)
It’s strange that people constantly call for us to sign players for competition and then as soon as we do are convinced it’s because that player must be leaving! It’s a squad game now. 7 players on the bench with 5 subs.
I enjoyed lots of that, thought the midfield caught the eye, Gilbey especially.
I am still a bit worried about our lack of depth in full back areas.
The talk at the Valley today was that this midfield add attack tonight v Welling pus the defence and GK v Swansea will be the starting line up v Accrington.
I find that hard to believe. Why would you play your first choice midfield against part time Welling, rather than against Championship opponents, and really get them sharp?
Tomorrow will be a massively harder defensive task, and you want to see how your midfield copes.
Glad I'm not the only one baffled by yesterday's team selection. It's more important that we're competitive against Swansea and with respect to Welling, they're easier to put out a competitive team against.
The talk at the Valley today was that this midfield add attack tonight v Welling pus the defence and GK v Swansea will be the starting line up v Accrington.
I find that hard to believe. Why would you play your first choice midfield against part time Welling, rather than against Championship opponents, and really get them sharp?
Tomorrow will be a massively harder defensive task, and you want to see how your midfield copes.
Glad I'm not the only one baffled by yesterday's team selection. It's more important that we're competitive against Swansea and with respect to Welling, they're easier to put out a competitive team against.
Payne and Mcgrandles haven’t been signed to sit on the bench and Fraser will be a big player for us so I think they will all be starting against Accrington maybe Dobson just doesn’t suit Garners style but with the 5 subs everyone will be getting a chance, enjoyed the game last night I thought Ness and Clayden played very well and gives Garner another choice.
I would imagine that because George Dobson missed a friendly recently Garner didn't feel he was up to chasing shadows against Swansea so played in the easier game yesterday to get more minutes in his legs.
It was a fascinating watch yesterday evening. I thought Elewere looked out of sorts and put it down to being on the right, but he went off at half time so maybe it was something other than positioning that was dragging him down. Whether anybody thought an individual player was any good or any bad a lot of them were decently consistent throughout the game. JFC was very good despite the goals from Gilbey who himself had a nice second half. I am glad a slightly larger Charlton audience got to see young Richard Chinn.
Really don't know what Kirk does , he can't take players on or won't, hasn't got the pace to play as a winger; Claydon has loads more pace, takes players on, can deliver a good cross,and tracks back and puts a tackle in. Some good goals, JFC looked good, Gilbey was good, Ness was tidy, DJ was good. Mcgillvery still worries me as do our defence when we start passing it around at the back under pressure. I know it's only a friendly but I don't see any improvement in Kirk, not a fan at the moment.
Funny how people see games, I think Kirk offered more than DJ and find DJ far more frustrating. That said it’s Welling in a bcd friendly so it means v v little!
Well you clearly saw the game through a blindfold if you think Kirk offered more than DJ in it. Let's wait for the highlights package, shall we, count how many times each gets involved?
Had to miss game last night so highlights were my first impression. Seems both were quite heavily involved in our best chances, DJ especially first half and Kirk second. Purely on those highlights you'd have to say DJ shaded it because of that cross onto Chuks' bonce first half, and his goal.
Can't believe how many chances we wasted. Yes I know it's only a pre season work out but we should be hitting the target.
Surely in pre season it’s just a good sign we’re creating those chances? Sharpness in finishing will come if we can create.
This. Scoring goals is a habit and comes naturally once a striker gets going and his confidence/arrogance has been kick started. Creating chances is down to hard work
Only one mirror on the wall…no wonder we never kick off on time, they probably have to line up to check themselves out before they leave the dressing room
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That would be crazy and depressing and that can't be the plan if we really have ambitions but nothing would surprise me any more after the transfer of Mason Burstow after a handful of games.
My guess is that 1 or 2 things that were expected to happen haven't, as yet happened. Or something has happened that wasn't expected.
We were first in for him in March and it was close to being finished when Jackson was still here. It then needed Garner's sign off.
It's a really funny signing because now we have got Payne I am not sure if he has a case for being first choice in any of the positions or combinations.
Maybe he will be the Paul Haynes of 2022?
I enjoyed lots of that, thought the midfield caught the eye, Gilbey especially.
I am still a bit worried about our lack of depth in full back areas.
I thought Elewere looked out of sorts and put it down to being on the right, but he went off at half time so maybe it was something other than positioning that was dragging him down.
Whether anybody thought an individual player was any good or any bad a lot of them were decently consistent throughout the game.
JFC was very good despite the goals from Gilbey who himself had a nice second half.
I am glad a slightly larger Charlton audience got to see young Richard Chinn.
Gilbey,
Wollacott,
Leaburn,
Clare,
Inniss,
X (23? CBT?)
X (21? Fraser?),
19 (Payne?),
McGrandles,
X (10? Morgan?),
Stockley,
O’Connell,
Sessegnon